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Re: Kuro's Grim-like Fantasy interest check.
« Reply #100 on: March 01, 2013, 07:56:55 PM »
Zceryll is a 6th level Vestige. Binders get 6th level Vestiges at lv12. Imp Binder reduces that to lv 10.

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Re: Kuro's Grim-like Fantasy interest check.
« Reply #101 on: March 01, 2013, 08:01:56 PM »
Heh, that'll tell me not to fully read the guide and make sure I know what it says.  I suppose it's a decent idea for the future though, if people survive.  Unless of course Rule of Cool comes into play.

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Re: Kuro's Grim-like Fantasy interest check.
« Reply #102 on: March 01, 2013, 08:05:19 PM »
Or if people don't survive it could be a decent choice for someone's 3rd or 4th or so character...

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Re: Kuro's Grim-like Fantasy interest check.
« Reply #103 on: March 01, 2013, 08:07:29 PM »
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Re: Kuro's Grim-like Fantasy interest check.
« Reply #104 on: March 01, 2013, 10:09:03 PM »
Replenishing food that spams White Raven tactics on party members every round. Soldier followers are strictly better than having actual crusader/warblade followers!

I had noticed that. I would most definitely not be taking WRT on either follower because that's just silly. However, if the "uses maneuvers at will" thing is a problem (and I'm not sure it is, barring WRT) how about giving Soldiers a recovery mechanic?

I any case, I'll repost the question so Kuroimaken can see it:

If my Chaos Cultist picked this ability:

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could it get Soldiers as its NPC followers?

If you want to think about other NPC classes (in case Soldier doesn't work out or you just want some other options), I have a few here. I think I saw a few more on GitP recently, although I don't remember them, unfortunately.

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Re: Kuro's Grim-like Fantasy interest check.
« Reply #105 on: March 01, 2013, 10:20:57 PM »
Cool, thanks. I was looking for all the homebrew NPC class options I could find but I hadn't come across those ones yet.

EDIT: I should probably extend my question about homebrew NPC classes from the Demagogue ability to include Manifester NPC classes as well. I've been assuming that one would be a no because the ability specifies "non-caster" and manifesters are essentially refluffed casters, but it's a good idea to ask anyway.

EDIT the second: Found an alternative NPC Martial Adept

There's also the Gleaner which is a Druid esque NPC class designed by Rich Burlew but that's not useful to me owing to the "non-caster" thing.
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Re: Kuro's Grim-like Fantasy interest check.
« Reply #106 on: March 01, 2013, 11:22:02 PM »
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Replenishing food that spams White Raven tactics on party members every round. Soldier followers are strictly better than having actual crusader/warblade followers!

I had noticed that. I would most definitely not be taking WRT on either follower because that's just silly. However, if the "uses maneuvers at will" thing is a problem (and I'm not sure it is, barring WRT) how about giving Soldiers a recovery mechanic?

I any case, I'll repost the question so Kuroimaken can see it:

If my Chaos Cultist picked this ability:

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could it get Soldiers as its NPC followers?

I think this would be okay (minus WRT). Manifesters don't work for that, however.

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Re: Kuro's Grim-like Fantasy interest check.
« Reply #107 on: March 01, 2013, 11:31:41 PM »
Great. Any word on stat generation?

In other news, my 666th post was on this thread.

How very apt.

EDIT: also, stat generation, wealth, and # of allowed flaws/traits for minions?
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Re: Kuro's Grim-like Fantasy interest check.
« Reply #108 on: March 01, 2013, 11:42:04 PM »
Hmmm. I'm tempted to say 40-point buy.

Minions get exactly diddly and squat for flaws and traits, use standard array. (They're cannon fodder and they should be glad to get even that much.)

WBL for you guys is standard per this level. Keep in mind all items are bound to be cursed in SOME fashion; the more powerful the item, the more likely it'll be cursed.
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Re: Kuro's Grim-like Fantasy interest check.
« Reply #109 on: March 02, 2013, 01:28:11 AM »
I don't think there are any slots left, but I wanted to say I personally friggin loved Dungeon Star. Don't think it wasn't a cool game. :D
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Re: Kuro's Grim-like Fantasy interest check.
« Reply #110 on: March 02, 2013, 06:54:22 AM »
Keep in mind all items are bound to be cursed in SOME fashion; the more powerful the item, the more likely it'll be cursed.
Hmm... so, what do you guys think -- is it worth it to spend 3 feats to become immune to this?

EDIT: Also, what do we have so far?  I'm trying to pick power chords, and I'm wondering how to sort stuff out.
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Re: Kuro's Grim-like Fantasy interest check.
« Reply #111 on: March 02, 2013, 07:34:54 AM »
I'd like to throw my name in as a reserve.

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Re: Kuro's Grim-like Fantasy interest check.
« Reply #112 on: March 02, 2013, 09:01:21 AM »
Keep in mind all items are bound to be cursed in SOME fashion; the more powerful the item, the more likely it'll be cursed.
Hmm... so, what do you guys think -- is it worth it to spend 3 feats to become immune to this?

EDIT: Also, what do we have so far?  I'm trying to pick power chords, and I'm wondering how to sort stuff out.
You're going to have to point me towards those feats... Personally, that's all part of the charm.

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Re: Kuro's Grim-like Fantasy interest check.
« Reply #113 on: March 02, 2013, 10:27:50 AM »
Also remember, there's no such thing as blanket immunity. At most, you'd just be highly resistant to the curses. :D

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Re: Kuro's Grim-like Fantasy interest check.
« Reply #114 on: March 02, 2013, 10:43:37 AM »
Keep in mind all items are bound to be cursed in SOME fashion; the more powerful the item, the more likely it'll be cursed.
Hmm... so, what do you guys think -- is it worth it to spend 3 feats to become immune to this?

EDIT: Also, what do we have so far?  I'm trying to pick power chords, and I'm wondering how to sort stuff out.
You're going to have to point me towards those feats... Personally, that's all part of the charm.

Don't worry, I won't come up with curses that makes them useless.
Certainly!  It's Martial Study (some Perplexing Essence maneuver), Martial Stance (some PE stance), and Counteract Curse (from the same post).
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Re: Kuro's Grim-like Fantasy interest check.
« Reply #115 on: March 02, 2013, 10:54:48 AM »
I don't have the time or will to play a spellcaster (aboleth or otherwise), and nothing else really springs to mind that I want to try out right now. So I think I'll bow out of this.
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Re: Kuro's Grim-like Fantasy interest check.
« Reply #116 on: March 02, 2013, 11:01:29 AM »
I should stop reading monster classes. They give me too many ideas... XD

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Re: Kuro's Grim-like Fantasy interest check.
« Reply #117 on: March 02, 2013, 11:49:55 AM »
I should stop reading monster classes. They give me too many ideas... XD

The first thing I thought of when Kuro mentioned both "Rule of cool" and "grim" was the Zodar, especially its 8th level ability:

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Show of Strength: Zodar can be found anywhere, and only very rarely will  two Zodar be found working together. Each Zodar cares only for its goal, whatever it may be, and won't usually meddle with other's affairs. When a zodar does act it is very destructive to its surroundings however. At 8th level 1/minute as a move action the Zodar may rip off an adjacent piece of scenery such as a wall chunk or ship mast, as long as it doesn't have a total volume bigger than a 5 feet cube per HD. To do this it must suceed on a Break check against the inanimate object, in which he can use his grapple bonus. If it suceeds, the Zodar can then use it as a thrown weapon with range increment 10 feet per HD that affects an area equal to the one it previously filled and deals damage as your slam two size categories larger (roll once and compare to each target's AC).  This can be combined with a Strike maneuver with a single target, in which case it affects all the hit targets. Either way the object crumbles after being thrown. If it isn't used whitin 1d4 rounds after being ripped off it crumbles by itself anyway.

And that's what I wanted to play. :P

Communication would prove difficult unless I got some kind of telepathy or used sign language or just held up signs, though that last one would really break the grimdark tone.

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Re: Kuro's Grim-like Fantasy interest check.
« Reply #118 on: March 02, 2013, 11:55:31 AM »
Hey, at least you're not starting to collect ideas like there's no tomorrow. I'm on... four? Five? XD

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Re: Kuro's Grim-like Fantasy interest check.
« Reply #119 on: March 02, 2013, 12:01:56 PM »
Keep in mind all items are bound to be cursed in SOME fashion; the more powerful the item, the more likely it'll be cursed.
Communication would prove difficult unless I got some kind of telepathy or used sign language or just held up signs, though that last one would really break the grimdark tone.

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