[Discussion] Stark Industries discussion thread

[Flay Crimsonwind]

So, we've got one human in power-armor, two drone-type automated weapons, one potion-user (juicer!  ), and one scroll user? I like this. Especially because we have a crafter specialist for pretty much anything the party needs. I do wands/weapons/armor, boz has potions, venn has wondrous covered. Aside from staves and such, there's pretty much nothing we cant create. I like this Stark Industries. 


That aside, I am down to my last 800+ gp, and I think I know what I'm spending it on. Two things.

A) Venn, we can assume you made our wondrous items with our money, yes? You do in fact have that feat?

B) It is total cheese to put a wand of true strike inside my weapon, and I should stick to my wand of Fist of Stone, huh?

C) Assuming the answer to C is yes, is there a better combat bonus spell you guys can think of that wouldnt be an expensive wand to use for my weapon-boosting?

[samnemath]

True strike doesn't seem cheesy. It is a standard action after all. What about Wraithstike?

[VennDygrem]

Yes, I have craft wondrous item covered. Beyond that, I haven't made much progress besides some basic build structure. I'm away for my brother's wedding this weekend, so away from my normal tools.

I'm also considering taking Craft Construct so we can have some Homonculi around, such as a Dedicated Wright, to help facilitate item creation and such while we're in the Dungeon.

Thoughts? Is this awesome, Y/N?

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So, we've got two constructs as our melee heavies, and Flay and Boz are essentially both blastificers since they'll be focusing on ranged damage and BFC, albeit in very different ways. I think that plants my character's necessary specialization as a Buffificer, and so I'll be making sure to do my best to focus on buffing and utility, which fits in with the scroll focus pretty well. I'll, of course, still have good use of wands, so that should make for good support, I think.

Don't mind me, just sort of reasoning out my character.
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Ok, I just looked at your sheets and it looks like Flay, samn, and Fire are all pretty good at both ranged and melee combat. Doesn't affect my path, but damn you guys are looking pretty well off. 

[FireInTheSky]

I'm also considering taking Craft Construct so we can have some Homonculi around, such as a Dedicated Wright, to help facilitate item creation and such while we're in the Dungeon.

Also, someone had to craft me and sam.  You probably weren't the lead, but you probably helped.

Is this awesome, Y/N?

Yes!

So, we've got two constructs as our melee heavies, and Flay and Boz are essentially both blastificers since they'll be focusing on ranged damage and BFC, albeit in very different ways. I think that plants my character's necessary specialization as a Buffificer, and so I'll be making sure to do my best to focus on buffing and utility, which fits in with the scroll focus pretty well. I'll, of course, still have good use of wands, so that should make for good support, I think.

I can do some BFC as well (and will be much better at it when we get to 9th (Shock Trooper FTW!).  But also definitely a melee heavy.

[samnemath]

Ok, I just looked at your sheets and it looks like Flay, samn, and Fire are all pretty good at both ranged and melee combat. Doesn't affect my path, but damn you guys are looking pretty well off. 

Why, thank you sir 

I am more of a BFC although my Maneuvers will allow me to cause some respectable damage, but nothing exceptional.

EDIT: Has anyone ever played Doll's Judgement Martial Disciple? Is it any good in play?  It seems fitting having a bunch of combat drones floating around me.

[FireInTheSky]

Venn and Boz, do you guys have the same feats as Flay to make your costs 52.5% instead of 70%?

[Bozwevial]

Yeah, although as of right now they only apply to potions because I needed to burn a feat on Least Dragonmark to enter Alchemist Savant, so I took Magical Artisan instead of Extraordinary/Legendary.

[FireInTheSky]

Mostly, I need to know about Wondrous Items.  At this point, it's looking like I'm only gonna have WI and Weapon Properties (which Flay has covered).

[VennDygrem]

I'll have to double check, but I'm pretty sure I made room for legendary/extraordinary artisan feats.

@sam: Oslecamo's character in the Nameless group uses Doll Judgement.

[FireInTheSky]

A couple tactical suggestions:

All 5 of us should have Eager/Warning Shuriken.  While it's held, you get +7 to init, and Flay can make them for 84gp.

Also, if anyone has GPs left over, we should pool them, and make sure Venn and Boz have as many Scrolls/Potions as possible.

[samnemath]

@sam: Oslecamo's character in the Nameless group uses Doll Judgement.

Yeah, you are right but he wrote it, I wanted a second opinion

A couple tactical suggestions:

All 5 of us should have Eager/Warning Shuriken.  While it's held, you get +7 to init, and Flay can make them for 84gp.

Also, if anyone has GPs left over, we should pool them, and make sure Venn and Boz have as many Scrolls/Potions as possible.

I agree. I already have a Warning shuriken and a wand of Nerveskitter.

[FireInTheSky]

I've got my items/enchantments mostly sorted.

I have 757gp remaining, which can buy an item that retails at 1081gp (assuming one of you crafts it).  Alternatively, I really don't need to put Sudden Stunning on both Slams (or either, really).  If I don't do that, then I have 2857gp, which can buy 4081gp retail (again, assuming one of you crafts it).

Is there anything else I should have that I'm missing?

[Flay Crimsonwind]

Sudden Stunning is nice. if you have a half-decent charisma score and two weapons, that effectively locks down a lot of opponents, which basically means a lot of foes a day re going to die. Especially with my ray of ice and battering ram spells, we should be able to keep things locked down/away from us pretty simply.

And I've already got a +11 init thanks to my Eager/warning gauntlets, so I second those enhancements.

Yeah, even with crafting, I imagine scrolls/potions get expensive fast. Is it mainly potions, or all sorts of alchemical items, Boz? just out of curiosity; I was scrolling through every book I had for stuff that might be good to buy, and I kept noticing fun alchemical stuff. Got me curious.

[FireInTheSky]

Sudden Stunning is nice. if you have a half-decent charisma score and two weapons, that effectively locks down a lot of opponents, which basically means a lot of foes a day re going to die. Especially with my ray of ice and battering ram spells, we should be able to keep things locked down/away from us pretty simply.

I already have Sudden Stunning on both of my Spinning Blade attacks, which is what I'm going to use most of the time.  If there's something else I should have that would mean I can't put SS on my Slams, I'm fine with it.

[Bozwevial]

Yeah, even with crafting, I imagine scrolls/potions get expensive fast. Is it mainly potions, or all sorts of alchemical items, Boz? just out of curiosity; I was scrolling through every book I had for stuff that might be good to buy, and I kept noticing fun alchemical stuff. Got me curious.

Alchemical items of all sorts. I'm compiling a list of useful stuff now, but if you spot anything cool, point it out. The more the merrier.

[samnemath]

Character almost complete. Just skills and flaws remaining. If you have any suggestions to improve him feel free to tell me.

[VennDygrem]

Sort of slow going for me as I've been very busy this week. I've been operating with one race, but have been searching for something more fun than just trying to suck every bit of intelligence optimization that I can. It can't hurt for the purposes of thoroughly testing this class, but that's a minor concern.

[VennDygrem]

Ok, my race is decided, skills/feats mostly set in stone, but now comes the hard part: equipment. Also, a name, but that can come later.

[FireInTheSky]

I posted a Background for Phil.

[Bozwevial]

I'm mostly done, just need to prettify things and put my sheet up.

If anyone knows where to find a picture of a halfling in dreadlocks, preferably with potions involved, I'm all ears.