Action economy still exists;
And so does Quicken Spell, Contingency, and Celerity. Also the "lessers" like Mass Snake's Swiftness and Haste which don't give a full-action so to speak but return more than a Standard Action's worth.
Yes. They exist like they did before. This is true. This makes the wizard Tier 0, just like, say, the StP Erudite, but less flexible on spell source. It's kinda like adding on that Kobold feat+ritual from the webhancement that adds a sorcerer level to a kobold.
I already just called out how you have to change the word "follow" to something else and this is what you go and rephrase the entire sentence to say, "other than special rules regarding spontaneous spellcasting, this spellcasting works like normal spellcasting".
I quoted the rule (admittedly, I just noticed that I accidentally added the word 'the'), then showed you the interpretation of the 'normal casting' clause. It means that you have components, concentration, attacks of opportunity, etc.
Here: '...such spontaneous casting
adheres to special rules regarding spontaneous spellcasting, [...], but otherwise functions as normal spellcasting.'
You probably choose page 125 for metamagic rules rather than page 139 because it comments that spontaneous casters don't prepare Metamagics. And even still you took the author(s) explicit inclusion of the Cleric's special rules not as a reminder to include a non-Spontaneous Class because the author figured you wouldn't have known to do that but that it's support for saying the Cleric equals Spontaneous Casting.
RC 139 already said that spontaneous conversion
is 'other spontaneous casting'. RC 125 includes spontaneous conversion users in with spontaneous spellcasters, and that's why I used it.
And then finally it attempts to conclude with a fallacy of appeal, of course you can be a Wizard 1 / Sorcerer 1 and there is no rule text preventing that, but that has nothing to do with the points being discussed. Your post reeks of your attempts to reach out and grasp anything support which is the exact opposite of how you should test a theory.
But let's take a moment and go back to that dumb appeal of yours, recall when I said I could prove VA's requirements were not subjective? Of course not, you didn't read the owlbear post before replying.
Versatile Spellcaster (Races of the Dragon): Although only spontaneous spellcasters can utilize this feat, the ability to sacrifice two lower-level spell slots for one higher-level spell slot comes in handy more often than you might think.
Some characters can cast spells, but they don’t need spellbooks, nor do they prepare their spells. They can cast any spell they know using a daily allotment of spell slots. These characters are called spontaneous spellcasters.
The wizard prepares spells. The wizard is a prepared caster. The wizard, through a feat or ACF, is able to spontaneously cast spells. The wizard is a spontaneous caster. Since the wizard fulfills both definitions, and there's nothing invalidating the definitions, he's both. That was, and is, my 'appeal.'
The precis description on p24 of Complete Mage (do I smell... herring?) of what a feat in Races of the Dragon does, and who can use it, especially in regards to character building? Wow, heavy stuff. It
might go to intent (one of the 4 designers of CM, as well as the editing manager worked on both books). But maybe they just didn't care to explain who is a spontaneous caster, and that you can
become a spontaneous caster. Or they didn't think of it, or even know. CC (spont div) came out in May 2007, RoD in January 2006, and CM in October 2006, and RC in October 2007. FRCS came out in, what... 2001, with the PGTF updating it in 2004. These interactions are unusual, why would they be referred to?
"Some characters can cast spells, but they don’t need spellbooks, nor do they prepare their spells..."
(this describes Spontaneous diviners, healers, inflicters, summoners, Signature spellers...). They can cast any spell they know
(the converters have a special known list, of which they can cast any) using a daily allotment of spell slots
(which slots the converters have filled with prepared spells that they kick out). These characters are called spontaneous spellcasters."
Yes. Yes they are.
And you're next play, assuming you even read any of this, is to claim VA's requirement entry trumps CM's expansion even through CM doesn't contradict RotD, just your very inccorect opinion of things. So again, the rules don't say VA cannot be used with spent slots, the thread is over.
Ha ha yeah, I totally didn't say anything close to that!
Plus, (more fish here!) the rules say (RC 137) "Once you cast a prepared spell, you can’t cast it again until you prepare it again. If you have prepared multiple copies of a single spell, you can cast each copy once. If you cast spells spontaneously, casting a spell counts against your daily limit of spell slots of that spell level, but you can cast the same spell again if you haven’t reached your limit." And RC 139 "Any spells cast within the last 8 hours count against a spontaneous spellcaster’s daily limit of spell slots." If you have no slots left, you can't use VS.
Nobody is saying that a wizard or cleric or druid with the ability to cast certain spells spontaneously is a Spontaneous Spellcaster. But, Versatile Spellcaster isn't asking if you're a Spontaneous Spellcaster. It's asking if you can cast spells spontaneously. There's a huge difference.
I've changed my mind about that first part, Linklord. So now someone is.
Well you shouldn't, because you'd be wrong. We have a definition for Spontaneous Spellcasters, on pg 139 of the Rules Compendium.
Some characters can cast spells, but they don’t need spellbooks, nor do they prepare their spells. They can cast any spell they know using a daily allotment of spell slots. These characters are called spontaneous spellcasters.
If your character prepares spells, he is by definition not a Spontaneous Spellcaster (even if he casts some spells spontaneously).
That supposition would then mean that a sorcerer with Arcane Preparation (CArc 73) is not now nor ever will again be a spontaneous caster.
I'm not in agreeance with that.