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Min/Max 3.x / Re: Epic Gestalt Character Help
« on: November 18, 2020, 01:04:59 PM »
Where do you get the second full attack action from?

You are gestalt, you can just put normal class levels at 1/4/7/10 on the other side of your gestalt to ensure your spell levels don't tank. Also, you are level 25, you have some wiggle room while still getting level 9 spells.

I'm struggling to figure out what the other characters are doing here, since truenamer is (and I say this as a huge fan of truenamers) a terrible class with almost no potential for significant abuse beyond the skull talisman exploit, and unless the dread necromancer is going HARD into level draining or minionmancy, he's going to fall behind most other casters.

Can we get some sort of benchmarks for what you want to be able to to? It's hard to tell what "compete but not overshadow" means when we don't know if they are throwing around 15d8 or 150d8 for example. At level 25, a well-built martial character can be one-shotting GODS with minimal resource expenditure.

TIme Stands Still, the lvl 9 maneuver, gives me a second round full attack action.

I dont know everything but the dread necromance manceris dread necromancer//marshall, horned harbinger, palladin fo tyrnanny, dread master

The Shifter is a were bear monk/warblade/warshaper natures warrior master of nine

And i was wrong hes not a truenamer, hes wizard 5/malconvoker 9/ paragonstic apostle1/ thaumaturgist 5/master specialsit 5// binder 25

Not sure how much that helps.

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Min/Max 3.x / Re: Epic Gestalt Character Help
« on: November 18, 2020, 08:43:15 AM »
Few quick questions:
1) Are mythal seed epic spells on the table?  If so, game changer.
2) Are NODES on the table?  Also game changer.
3) Going for a gish?  Are you opposed to psionics, if so?
4) If keeping arcane, are you familiar with the Swiftblade?

I can break this wide open, especially at 25th level gestalt, if you're wanting something that can curbstomp deities when they take the kid gloves off (and do so 10 levels earlier at that, non-gestalt).  Just let me know how far down this rabbit hole you want/need to go :)

1. I mean yes, but we try not to go to much into that stuff, we know its broken, but if one toon severely outpaces the others then its not as much fun, so we tend to stay away.
2. Not gonna lie, dont even know what that is.
3. yes the goal is a gish, not opposed to psionics, never played one thoug.  But Im likign hte rough build i have, the ability to make 2 full attacks at full BAB with lvl 9 ray/touch spells attached to each attack seems super fun
4.  I have seen the swiftblade, is it worth the loss of caster levels?  with my current build, i could take 6 levels of it, which would only make me a lvl 15 caster.

I know the other toons int he party dont seem that broken, but i Know the players well, they will have them min maxed to the extreme. SO i want somethign that can compete, but not get overshadowed, or overshadow itself.

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Min/Max 3.x / Re: Epic Gestalt Character Help
« on: November 17, 2020, 04:58:49 PM »
So this is where i am atm build wise

Race- Tiefling
Build- warblade 17, enlightned fist 3, abjurant champion 5// wizard 1, monk 1, duskblade 13, enlightend fist 4, ???? 6

Not the actual progression, But this gives me lvl 9 maneuvers, lvl 9 spells, can turn ray spells into touch spells, and can apply a touch spell to every attack each round.

Im not sure on what to do with the last 6 lvls, but they need to increase caster lvl so I can get the lvl 9 spells.

Does this help some?  ANy ideas?

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Min/Max 3.x / Epic Gestalt Character Help
« on: November 16, 2020, 12:36:28 PM »
Hey folks, first time posting here, and I need some help please.

My Group is running an Evil lvl 25 Gestalt campaign.

The DM is going to drop us into random places, and essentaily let us either take over cities, or just kill everything.

The part constists of
 a druid shifter
A trunames
and a dread necromancer.

I have bounced around a few ideas, but everything so far seems underpowered, or unfun, or does nothing to help the group makeup

Im not looking for anythign super cheesy, all 3.5 books ar eopen, but no pathfinder.

I would appreciate any help or ideas in this, thanks in advance.

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