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The Stronghold Handbook: All your Base are belong to us.
« on: October 07, 2015, 09:52:49 PM »
Discussion for stronghold handbook. Go for it.

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Re: The Stronghold Handbook: All your Base are belong to us.
« Reply #1 on: October 07, 2015, 10:02:43 PM »
Another incredibly cheap option is to use some enormous undead creature as your "base". Using the alternative/optional rules in the Draconomicon for zombie and skeletal dragons, a skeletal dragon corpse could still fly. So you could build a building inside of its empty rib cage, and use it as a portable fort.
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Re: The Stronghold Handbook: All your Base are belong to us.
« Reply #3 on: October 11, 2015, 07:23:18 PM »
You deserve fu for that name alone, OP

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New thing to add: A Folding Boat is a magic item that meets all the prerequisites for being both a stronghold (largest expanded size is more than 1 stronghold space) and an Item Familiar (2k cost, usable, permanent magical effect), meaning for the price of a single feat you can have an AI on your ship.

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Re: The Stronghold Handbook: All your Base are belong to us.
« Reply #4 on: February 13, 2016, 12:14:39 PM »
So I've been wasting far too much time researching the topic of the Stronghold Builder's Guidebook over the years.  And filled it with far too many post-it notes.  I've repeatedly come to one conclusion:  The goram thing does not play well with others.  It couldn't even be bothered to be fully compatible with Core, let alone leaving any room for future-proofing other then MTP with labor costs, and they don't even tell you the size of a workforce so the DM doesn't even have a starting point for the tea party.  Being able to fly does nothing for construction costs, but casting levitate does!  Maxed your ranks in Knowledge (Architecture and Engineering), what a waste, skills have nothing to do with the system.  Not even a paragraph to use Craft to cut some costs in half.  Furnishings are tied to space size, meaning you can't even furnish a room separately and get associated benefits.  But the most frustrating thing is, the writers actually did do math, accurately for once!  It really does take exactly 12 castings of Wall of Stone at 16 CL to create one space of Hewn Stone Walls.  Not that it counted floors and ceilings, or doorways.  Its a hot mess that stymied my attempts to make a useful guide for it.  I was working on trying to make a set of house rules to make 3.5 compatible with it so a guide would be useful, but we've got this here.  So I'll just dump some of what I've collected over time here instead.

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