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Re: The Small Rants Thread VIII: Now more bitchin' than ever.
« Reply #20 on: May 16, 2014, 10:33:07 AM »
I want a job where I can make my own hours and I get paid for how much I produce, not how many office hours I've logged.
That is the dream, but the traditional paths to doing it have substantial barriers to entry.  I'm thinking about the "hang out your own shingle" careers, which tend to involve a lot of schooling (law, psychology, etc.).  Which may be fun, I mean, I'm a fan, but also comes with practical challenges.

But, it does sound like a change of jobs is in order.  Although in my experience that has been a slow and fairly frustrating process.

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Re: The Small Rants Thread VIII: Now more bitchin' than ever.
« Reply #21 on: May 16, 2014, 10:59:28 AM »
I work telemarketing at a real estate agency. Basically, I call people and try to get them to buy condos.
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Re: The Small Rants Thread VIII: Now more bitchin' than ever.
« Reply #22 on: May 16, 2014, 11:25:31 AM »
I work telemarketing at a real estate agency. Basically, I call people and try to get them to buy condos.
We just watched Glengarry Glen Ross... If you haven't, you should probably watch it. :D

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Re: The Small Rants Thread VIII: Now more bitchin' than ever.
« Reply #23 on: May 16, 2014, 01:03:29 PM »
its worth the watch, just the highlights dosnt do it justice.
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Re: The Small Rants Thread VIII: Now more bitchin' than ever.
« Reply #24 on: May 16, 2014, 01:04:16 PM »
I work telemarketing at a real estate agency. Basically, I call people and try to get them to buy condos.

It's something that's never sat quite right with me, as I loathe telemarketing. But it was the only job I could get that offered a prospect of enough profit to sustain me. I could stand the idea as long as I got clients and I got paid, but I've recently switched companies as well as sales focus, and I haven't been able to get a prospective client for nearly a month now.

This comes in the wake of a psych eval that claims I am too damn smart to be doing what I do, but I can't think of an alternative. I want a job where I can make my own hours and I get paid for how much I produce, not how many office hours I've logged.


Try finding a local company that does its own customer service. You've already got call center experience, so it should be relatively to get in and start moving up. Customer service places have a lot of turnover, so any talented individual quickly finds themselves getting promoted to supervisory positions. Its even faster if you're aggressive about it, and depending on where you are you can look for a company that's growing.

With a bit of supervisory experience under your belt you'll find your options improving dramatically. Still won't be the self-employed ideal, but better than sales at a call center.

If you're in Utah I can give you a really good reference. :)

I work telemarketing at a real estate agency. Basically, I call people and try to get them to buy condos.
We just watched Glengarry Glen Ross... If you haven't, you should probably watch it. :D

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Google 'glengarry glen ross speech' and watch it. And read #5 of this cracked article too, just to check your reactions.
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Re: The Small Rants Thread VIII: Now more bitchin' than ever.
« Reply #25 on: May 16, 2014, 01:38:17 PM »
Kuro is in Brazil.  So far I only know of nijineko and myself being in Utah.

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Re: The Small Rants Thread VIII: Now more bitchin' than ever.
« Reply #26 on: May 16, 2014, 03:05:59 PM »
Kuro is in Brazil.  So far I only know of nijineko and myself being in Utah.

Yar.

Wait, really? Three Utahns? 2 being long-standing and established members here? Weird.

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Re: The Small Rants Thread VIII: Now more bitchin' than ever.
« Reply #27 on: May 16, 2014, 03:52:20 PM »
My area has been unnaturally hot and humid lately; and yesterday was a day when I didn't sit down from 500 to about 1530...

Sucked so much. I could barely walk due to chaffing my legs on my pant legs.
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Re: The Small Rants Thread VIII: Now more bitchin' than ever.
« Reply #28 on: May 16, 2014, 04:00:16 PM »
My area has been unnaturally hot and humid lately; and yesterday was a day when I didn't sit down from 500 to about 1530...

Sucked so much. I could barely walk due to chaffing my legs on my pant legs.

>_<  Twelve and a half hours of standing?  Damn.

@Frog: I suppose it shouldn't be surprising since Utah recently got the distinction of being the nerdiest state http://blog.estately.com/2014/04/the-nerdiest-states-in-america/.  Alas, 15th in D&D, but still a good number.

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Re: The Small Rants Thread VIII: Now more bitchin' than ever.
« Reply #29 on: May 16, 2014, 04:11:02 PM »
Naw, just 10 and a half. Admittedly, I did sit down for breakfast and lunch, but that was about 30 minutes altogether.

Stupid packing.
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Re: The Small Rants Thread VIII: Now more bitchin' than ever.
« Reply #30 on: May 16, 2014, 04:11:34 PM »
My area has been unnaturally hot and humid lately; and yesterday was a day when I didn't sit down from 500 to about 1530...

Sucked so much. I could barely walk due to chaffing my legs on my pant legs.

>_<  Twelve and a half hours of standing?  Damn.

@Frog: I suppose it shouldn't be surprising since Utah recently got the distinction of being the nerdiest state http://blog.estately.com/2014/04/the-nerdiest-states-in-america/.  Alas, 15th in D&D, but still a good number.

Leg chafing is rough. Pun intended. In all seriousness though, yikes. 12 hours standing is painful at any time.

@Jack: I'm surprised the article didn't make the obvious connection between geekdom and LDS heavy areas (i.e. what else are you going to do when there aren't any keggers?)

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Re: The Small Rants Thread VIII: Now more bitchin' than ever.
« Reply #31 on: May 16, 2014, 04:46:14 PM »
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Re: The Small Rants Thread VIII: Now more bitchin' than ever.
« Reply #32 on: May 16, 2014, 08:28:30 PM »
I want a job where I can make my own hours and I get paid for how much I produce, not how many office hours I've logged.
That is the dream, but the traditional paths to doing it have substantial barriers to entry.  I'm thinking about the "hang out your own shingle" careers, which tend to involve a lot of schooling (law, psychology, etc.).  Which may be fun, I mean, I'm a fan, but also comes with practical challenges.

But, it does sound like a change of jobs is in order.  Although in my experience that has been a slow and fairly frustrating process.

If only lawyers here in Brazil got paid for production and not for hours... Well, i mean, they do get paid by production, or rather, results. But also per merit piece, in most cases. But, it's a long and hard slog to get to a good position as a lawyer, and even then, you're going to clock in much more than 40 work-hours per week. You don't have holidays, you don't have proper vacations, sometimes you have to overwork yourself to exhaustion. It's really, really a niche job. You can do a "general practice" kind of office, work less, and get a meager but okay income, or you can try to make yourself stand out in a multitude of other law-school recent graduates, and aim for the big bucks.
One of the few professions where you can actually get *rich*. But also, one that talent and effort are required for success.
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Re: The Small Rants Thread VIII: Now more bitchin' than ever.
« Reply #33 on: May 16, 2014, 08:30:53 PM »
once again my melware is going off again... :shakefist

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Re: The Small Rants Thread VIII: Now more bitchin' than ever.
« Reply #34 on: May 16, 2014, 08:44:00 PM »
its Brujon's avatar pic, i think.
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Re: The Small Rants Thread VIII: Now more bitchin' than ever.
« Reply #35 on: May 17, 2014, 06:51:17 AM »
Looking into it. I'll change it if i have to.

EDIT: Changed it. Also, since i stopped smoking, it was time to change the Avatar to something that hasn't got a cigarrette in it. Also, Gravelordin' Giant Dad is bitchin' (Too bad resizing makes the image look awful. Have to look for a better avatar later)]

EDIT2: Humrum... It's definitely better. I'll leave it at that until i find something better. Giantdad is just too awesome.
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Re: The Small Rants Thread VIII: Now more bitchin' than ever.
« Reply #36 on: May 17, 2014, 06:54:10 AM »
its not consistent  :rolleyes

checking the page source, your avatar is the only thing with the url that sets off the alarm...  but its not every time.
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Re: The Small Rants Thread VIII: Now more bitchin' than ever.
« Reply #37 on: May 17, 2014, 10:05:06 AM »
well it worked changing the avatar, thank you kindly

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Re: The Small Rants Thread VIII: Now more bitchin' than ever.
« Reply #38 on: May 17, 2014, 02:55:38 PM »
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Re: The Small Rants Thread VIII: Now more bitchin' than ever.
« Reply #39 on: May 17, 2014, 03:36:17 PM »
Got a letter from the IRS claiming that I owe them $20,000 from 2012 ($16k in back taxes and $4k in penalties and interest). Thing is, if you look at what they claim the issue is, it's INCREDIBLY obvious what happened. What I think happened is that the company I was working for at the time submitted a corrected 1099, which, for some reason, had a slightly different account number (but same correct SSN), the teensiest difference in company addresses (one says "333 West 52nd Street Ste 900" and the other says " 333 W 52nd St Suite 900"), and a $1 difference in the amount I made. So, adding those discrepancies together, they think I made twice as much as I actually did. It's SO STUPID!!!!! If anyone bothered to actually look at the thing before they sent it to me, it could have been resolved in 15 minutes. Instead, I get this letter - on a Friday, of course - and almost have a heart attack. At least my accountant says it's an easy fix (she said she gets a couple of these a year among all her clients). But still... :banghead :banghead :banghead