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Title: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: oslecamo on April 26, 2013, 05:53:56 AM
OOC stuff goes here for the Low-End players.

Character creation deadline is now marked to the next Friday from here.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Raineh Daze on April 26, 2013, 06:03:56 AM
Transferring my question over: Dragonfire Inspiration is definitively banned, right?
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: oslecamo on April 26, 2013, 06:05:44 AM
Transferring my question over: Dragonfire Inspiration is definitively banned, right?
Well, if you pick just dragonfire inspiration and no other bardic music buffers, I'll allow it.


Oslecamo, is there still room in this? I would like to put my hand up if there is :flutter
I believe there may be room for one more yes, in particular with the Faster Paced rules.

Is it okay if I ignore the "Arcane Casters only" part of Craft: Alchemy? It'll make the traps Shatterscale makes a lot more potent.
Yes.  I always believed that limitation to be really silly anyway.

I'm ready to make a character whenever.
Then make it happen. :p

Normally binding requires drawing a sign, how do you want to refluff that?

I would supose you have some kind of control panel implanted in your body just under your skin, or some exterior command device, and you need to physically press the right buttons on it to load up the right personality.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Clanjos on April 26, 2013, 09:09:00 AM
Awesome! Now I just need to figure out how to make Dithermines and Explosive Packs on the cheap.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Nanshork on April 26, 2013, 09:57:30 AM
Oslecamo, what did you think of my explanation for the binder refluffing?  I'll repost it here (and add to it/ actually start on the mechanics of making the character tonight/this weekend).

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Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Kuroimaken on April 26, 2013, 10:15:27 AM
Getting ready to get my fluff on.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Raineh Daze on April 26, 2013, 12:56:02 PM
Transferring my question over: Dragonfire Inspiration is definitively banned, right?
Well, if you pick just dragonfire inspiration and no other bardic music buffers, I'll allow it.

... does that mean I have to choose between Lingering Song and Dragonfire Inspiration?  :-\
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Clanjos on April 26, 2013, 02:31:04 PM
Right, crafting question.

How much would a mecha-sized flask of acid cost?
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: oslecamo on April 26, 2013, 02:43:40 PM
Oslecamo, what did you think of my explanation for the binder refluffing?  I'll repost it here (and add to it/ actually start on the mechanics of making the character tonight/this weekend).

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Looks pretty good. Feel free to come up with original names for legendary pilots and the program, I'll gladly add them to the setting mythos.

Some sugestions tough:
-Lena, young princess-pilot halfling of Satera, restored her Orakian kingdom on the Landen System trough her graceful skill on the frontlines.
-Rulakir, a bloodthirsty but highly skilled orc mecha mercenary of unknown origin. His own family was killed long ago in long forgoten wars, and his hatred has kept him alive for centuries before falling near the end of the Devastation War.


Transferring my question over: Dragonfire Inspiration is definitively banned, right?
Well, if you pick just dragonfire inspiration and no other bardic music buffers, I'll allow it.

... does that mean I have to choose between Lingering Song and Dragonfire Inspiration?  :-\

Yes.

Right, crafting question.

How much would a mecha-sized flask of acid cost?
Much more than what a 1st level character could afford.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Raineh Daze on April 26, 2013, 02:45:23 PM
Hm.

This reminds me: what is the starting gold for a first level character? >_>;
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Nanshork on April 26, 2013, 03:11:12 PM
I like your suggestions and will go with them.  I'll flesh out a little bit more about the "how binders work in this setting" part and then you can integrate it into the world however you see fit.

Does the goverment have any name except The Government?

Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: oslecamo on April 26, 2013, 04:57:32 PM
Hm.

This reminds me: what is the starting gold for a first level character? >_>;
You're a bard right? Check the PHB then.

I like your suggestions and will go with them.  I'll flesh out a little bit more about the "how binders work in this setting" part and then you can integrate it into the world however you see fit.

Does the goverment have any name except The Government?

The Grand Open Veritable Enlightened Republic of Neo Motavia, Espers, Nei and Termina.

Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Raineh Daze on April 26, 2013, 05:14:18 PM
I'm... really bad at finding the info. Yes, I failed to find starting gold in the PHB.  :blush


On the plus side, I forgot that Bardic Music effects lasted for another five rounds after you stop even without Lingering Song.  :lmao
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Concerned Ninja Citizen on April 26, 2013, 05:26:53 PM
Bard is 4d4x10 average 100gp.

It wouldn't be just Lingering Song you're giving up for DFI. Masterwork Instruments, Inspirational Boost, Medal of Valor (in a level or so when you can afford it) and, depending on Oslecamo's interpretation, Extra Music which will be important at 1st lv when you only have 1 use normally. I'd go with the above instead of DFI unless you have a concept that requires being dragony.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Raineh Daze on April 26, 2013, 05:32:28 PM
I expect they'd fall under similar limitations, though. So... basically looking at things on a case-by-case basis.

I think Spirits are usable outside of the ship, though? I'll have other options from that. I think.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Concerned Ninja Citizen on April 26, 2013, 05:39:15 PM
There's a line between "not high op" and "utterly nerf bards." DFI and Words of Creation are the sources of absurd bonuses. Without those, I would think stacking the more minor bonuses would be fine. You could get a similar effect by taking the Leader feat 3 or 4 times.

It's Oslecamo's call, though.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Raineh Daze on April 26, 2013, 05:43:34 PM
I actually get Leader as a bonus feat. I'm not sure if this is Leadership (in which case, I guess it's the ship crew or... something. Bit confused) or something I'm unaware of. :???
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Concerned Ninja Citizen on April 26, 2013, 05:50:33 PM
Look in the Pilot Feats thread in the SRW subforum.

Leader gives you an aura of command with a 5ft/mu radius. Allies within that radius get a +1 command bonus to attacks and, I think, AC. If you take it additional times the bonus and radius goes up by 1 and 5ft/mu.

In order to use Ships Full of Hope (the ship captain school) maneuvers on your allies, they must be within your leader aura.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Raineh Daze on April 26, 2013, 06:00:06 PM
Ah.

So my unique school's maneuvers require me to be right next to my allies in something that shouldn't be right at the front of battle, or spend lots and lots of feats. Hmm.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Concerned Ninja Citizen on April 26, 2013, 06:09:31 PM
Only the ones that directly affect your allies. There's quite a few SFoH maneuvers that affect your battleship instead.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Raineh Daze on April 26, 2013, 06:14:05 PM
Well, I was going to be focusing on buffing anyway, so the feats aren't much of a loss. I suck with feats, getting bonus feats just makes it worse. :lmao

What's Medal of Valor from?
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Nanshork on April 26, 2013, 06:21:01 PM
I like your suggestions and will go with them.  I'll flesh out a little bit more about the "how binders work in this setting" part and then you can integrate it into the world however you see fit.

Does the goverment have any name except The Government?

The Grand Open Veritable Enlightened Republic of Neo Motavia, Espers, Nei and Termina.

The Government it is. :P
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Concerned Ninja Citizen on April 26, 2013, 06:26:38 PM
What's Medal of Valor from?

Magic Item Compendium (possibly somewhere else as well but that's the most recent printing.) 3/day +1 to your inspire courage bonus. It may have another minor bonus as well.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Elevevated Beat on April 27, 2013, 08:50:01 AM
I believe there may be room for one more yes, in particular with the Faster Paced rules.
:love

I'm thinking a pew, pew (from range) character. All good in the hood if I go it?
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Raineh Daze on April 27, 2013, 12:18:45 PM
Is the bonus skillpoint from Nymph's Kiss multiplied?

Also, what knowledge skill goes with what machine, again?
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Nanshork on April 27, 2013, 02:29:51 PM
I believe there may be room for one more yes, in particular with the Faster Paced rules.
:love

I'm thinking a pew, pew (from range) character. All good in the hood if I go it?

I'm going ranged but there's definitely room for another ranged character.   :)
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: oslecamo on April 27, 2013, 04:36:50 PM
I expect they'd fall under similar limitations, though. So... basically looking at things on a case-by-case basis.

I think Spirits are usable outside of the ship, though? I'll have other options from that. I think.

Yes, you can still use spirits while outside your personal machine.

Is the bonus skillpoint from Nymph's Kiss multiplied?
No. It's already good enough as it is.

Also, what knowledge skill goes with what machine, again?
Arcane Robot-Arcana
Divine Robot-Religion
Real Robot-Nobility and Royalty
Super Robot-The Planes
Ship-History
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Nanshork on April 27, 2013, 05:36:36 PM
Ugh, I just added all of the vestiges I can bind to my character sheet.  That took awhile, I'll finish it later.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Raineh Daze on April 27, 2013, 05:56:27 PM
Fair enough.

I think I'm finished (http://www.minmaxboards.com/index.php?topic=9779.msg159451#msg159451), might need to have the battleship stats fixed.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Nanshork on April 28, 2013, 12:28:08 AM
I don't suppose that that Numan Artificial Talent racial ability could give me a +1 to Effective Binder Level with the caveat that it can't be used to qualify for higher level vestiges?
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Elevevated Beat on April 28, 2013, 01:11:52 AM
I'm going ranged but there's definitely room for another ranged character.   :)
:)
I kinda wanted to play something simple. And as I haven't played a Ranger, I was like, "Standing there and going fwip-fwip seems good."

Osle, can Mecha's be considered a Favoured Enemy? Or are they a subtype? Purely for interest's sake. I don't think running at a big tin man would go well for most people.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Nanshork on April 28, 2013, 01:16:09 AM
I'm going ranged but there's definitely room for another ranged character.   :)
:)
I kinda wanted to play something simple. And as I haven't played a Ranger, I was like, "Standing there and going fwip-fwip seems good."

Osle, can Mecha's be considered a Favoured Enemy? Or are they a subtype? Purely for interest's sake. I don't think running at a big tin man would go well for most people.

I'm playing something that is horribly complicated and Ranged Combat isn't a dedicated focus for me.  I'll be kind of all over the place abilities wise so we won't be stepping on each others toes any, no worries.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: oslecamo on April 28, 2013, 04:34:11 AM
I don't suppose that that Numan Artificial Talent racial ability could give me a +1 to Effective Binder Level with the caveat that it can't be used to qualify for higher level vestiges?
I'm fine with that.

I'm going ranged but there's definitely room for another ranged character.   :)
:)
I kinda wanted to play something simple. And as I haven't played a Ranger, I was like, "Standing there and going fwip-fwip seems good."

Osle, can Mecha's be considered a Favoured Enemy? Or are they a subtype? Purely for interest's sake. I don't think running at a big tin man would go well for most people.
Yes, you can take Favored Enemy (mecha).

Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Scout89 on April 28, 2013, 08:36:25 AM
I'm going ranged too. Right now we only have one melee guy in the group. But, depending on the setting, we might not need more than that. Up until now we have a binder, a ranged ranger, a ranged fighter (me), and a ship captain. Do you think another melee guy is needed, Oslecamo? Because, if we do and there's no more players,I might respec.
Another thing, the modern/futuristic weapons in the DMG don't have prices. How can we purchase them?

EDIT: Sheet is almost ready.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Raineh Daze on April 28, 2013, 08:43:30 AM
I'm going ranged too. Right now we only have one melee guy in the group. But, depending on the setting, we might not need more than that. Up until now we have a binder, a ranged ranger, a ranged fighter (me), and a ship captain. Do you think another melee guy is needed, Oslecamo? Because, if we do and there's no more players,I might respec.
Another thing, the modern/futuristic weapons in the DMG don't have prices. How can we purchase them?

EDIT: Sheet is almost ready.

Strictly speaking, the Captain is ranged too. Mostly because the ship has a beam cannon attached. :lmao

We're refluffing things, last I checked. So... Light Crossbow is probably some sort of basic pistol (I expect it shoots glowing green bullets) and a rapier... highly advanced alloy. Studded Leather? Cheap, beginner energy field. XD
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Nanshork on April 28, 2013, 10:59:48 AM
If it is thought that we need another melee guy I'll do it, I've never played a Binder before but they've got a lot of melee support.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Scout89 on April 28, 2013, 11:20:45 AM
It's your call, Nanshork. But I can specialize in melee very easely if you'd not to.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Elevevated Beat on April 28, 2013, 11:30:43 AM
Isn't Kuro in this? Wasn't he saying something about swinging a sword around, or was that a mis-post?
If not not, I'm more than happy to go beatstick/meatshield/pouncy mc chargington

I just thought we already had one of those guys, and then a rogue. Along with binder, who i mistook orignally for a beguiler (don't even ask how I did that), bard and one other - who I've now realised is ranged.

You guys called it first, so I'm quite happy to run amok in melee.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Scout89 on April 28, 2013, 11:34:11 AM
Oh, I forgot! The melee guy was a rogue. Maybe we need another tank?
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Nanshork on April 28, 2013, 12:10:07 PM
Concerned Ninja Citizen is also playing a melee guy.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Kuroimaken on April 28, 2013, 12:22:43 PM
Alright, gonna get to work on my guy shortly! Where do I post him?
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Elevevated Beat on April 28, 2013, 12:28:46 PM
Alright, gonna get to work on my guy shortly! Where do I post him?

I think we're using the same thread for High Op and Low Op here (http://www.minmaxboards.com/index.php?topic=9779.0).
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Nanshork on April 28, 2013, 12:31:58 PM
By the way, we've obviously got a least a little confusion going on with party roles so I think everyone should post what they're playing just so everybody else knows what's going on.


I am a Binder // Real Pilot with a ranged focus.  I'm contemplating changing my character, I've never played a Binder and I'm not sure that I'll enjoy it.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Raineh Daze on April 28, 2013, 12:34:58 PM
Bard//Ship Captain. Can do ranged (barely), but is pretty much made of glass. Support and talking to people. Also aims to be a rockstar. XD
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Elevevated Beat on April 28, 2013, 12:36:13 PM
I'm currently locked in as a Ranger/Scout // Real Pilot. Ranged focus.

However, more than happy to swap if we need something filled :cool

It seems like there's a lot of people in the party :o
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: oslecamo on April 28, 2013, 12:46:24 PM
I'm going ranged too. Right now we only have one melee guy in the group. But, depending on the setting, we might not need more than that. Up until now we have a binder, a ranged ranger, a ranged fighter (me), and a ship captain. Do you think another melee guy is needed, Oslecamo? Because, if we do and there's no more players,I might respec.
Another thing, the modern/futuristic weapons in the DMG don't have prices. How can we purchase them?
Feel free to go either melee or ranged, party already seems to have some of both.

As already pointed out, you pick "normal" equipment and refluff it as futuristic stuff. Crossbows are photon guns, blades are advanced alloys, maces have disruption fields, etc, etc. Comparatively the same stats because everything you'll face also has futuristic defences. :p

However here's some prices Sneaky Sable oncer converted for me for the future equipment

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So all kinda out of reach for a 1st level character.

Alright, gonna get to work on my guy shortly! Where do I post him?

I think we're using the same thread for High Op and Low Op here (http://www.minmaxboards.com/index.php?topic=9779.0).
Correct.

Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Kuroimaken on April 28, 2013, 12:52:20 PM
Gotcha. What about character creation rules? I didn't find 'em on the board.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Raineh Daze on April 28, 2013, 12:58:09 PM
Base Crunch
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Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Kuroimaken on April 28, 2013, 01:04:21 PM
Thanks, RD.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Clanjos on April 28, 2013, 01:20:14 PM
So... question. Can I sneak attack with a flamer futuristic weapon from the DMG?
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Scout89 on April 28, 2013, 01:29:26 PM
Ok! I'm respecing to melee. Had an idea of a big robot carrying a polearm. I'm going Fighter//Super Robot.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Raineh Daze on April 28, 2013, 01:41:17 PM
Hazama fused with Gendo Ikari.

This cannot end well. XD

Oh well, maybe Alexia can stop him from killing anyone necessary. >_>;

Seems he's in the other game. Where stunning morals seem to be in short supply. Oh dear.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Concerned Ninja Citizen on April 28, 2013, 07:34:32 PM
Right now I'm a Real Pilot // Incarnate with a focus on tanking. I'm not 100% on the Incarnate part of that, though. It seems rather underwhelming at low levels. I'm considering reworking to a Dragonfire Adept (also Real Pilot.) That character could still tank if needed, but would be more ranged focused and would be using the breath weapon/ entangling exhalation setup for battlefield control.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Kuroimaken on April 28, 2013, 07:55:34 PM
I'm going with straight-up Fighter//Real Pilot for the couple first levels, but that's my CAST.

Hugo Lotushand is going with Arcane Pilot/Super Pilot//(undecided but will have Shadowcraft Mage levels)
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Nanshork on April 28, 2013, 10:02:34 PM
Right now I'm a Real Pilot // Incarnate with a focus on tanking. I'm not 100% on the Incarnate part of that, though. It seems rather underwhelming at low levels. I'm considering reworking to a Dragonfire Adept (also Real Pilot.) That character could still tank if needed, but would be more ranged focused and would be using the breath weapon/ entangling exhalation setup for battlefield control.

If you leave Incarnate I'm picking up it, I'm underwhelmed by Binder myself.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Concerned Ninja Citizen on April 28, 2013, 10:44:35 PM
Heh, we could switch and I could be the Binder...

Actually, I'm thinking about Totemist now. It appears that, at least at lv 1, Totemist can tank better than Incarnate and do more damage to boot. 

So if Incarnate appeals to you, have at it.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Nanshork on April 28, 2013, 11:11:19 PM
Will do.   :D
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Raineh Daze on April 29, 2013, 02:32:20 AM
Totemists strike me as vaguely horrific. They have an ability which gives them three heads. :/

I'm going with straight-up Fighter//Real Pilot for the couple first levels, but that's my CAST.

Hugo Lotushand is going with Arcane Pilot/Super Pilot//(undecided but will have Shadowcraft Mage levels)

Stick to talking about the high-powered character in the high-powered thread? :p

Umm... mind listing what the weapons and armour were before you refluffed them, Scout? Also, where has that assault blade been pulled from? It isn't listed anywhere in the various robot threads as you've gotten it... :/
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Concerned Ninja Citizen on April 29, 2013, 02:41:28 AM
Given that playing a Hydra (or a were hydra for that matter) is an option in the other campaign, I don't think making extra heads out of soul stuff is all that problematic in the grand scheme of things.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Raineh Daze on April 29, 2013, 03:03:17 AM
I just want to know what the designers were thinking when they created a class whose abilities turn them into the sort of bizarre monstrosity guards are obliged to kill. :/
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Concerned Ninja Citizen on April 29, 2013, 03:13:17 AM
In any case I'm currently leaning towards Dragonfire Adept, so I won't have 3 heads or 4 arms, I'll just be breathing fire.

On that note: which would the party rather have, a face or a know it all?

I only get 1 invocation at lv1 so I can't have both Beguiling Influence and Draconic Knowledge. I'm currently leaning towards beguiling influence, since I can pick up the other one at lv3 which is the same level I can take knowledge devotion. I'm not yet certain, however, and could go the other way or back to Totemist or something completely different.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Raineh Daze on April 29, 2013, 03:27:37 AM
I have a bard . Face is covered. Aside from intimidating people.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Elevevated Beat on April 29, 2013, 05:45:29 AM
Hiii...

Are Regional Feats allowed? Was looking at taking Swift and Silent.
Cityscape Web Enhancement?
I'm just going to assume Dragon Mag/Comp is out as there was no mention of it at all.
I apologise if those were explained in your "Crunch" post. I just wanted to double check that "every 3.5 book under the sun" literally meant book and was not inclusive of magazines or webpages.


Also, will this campaign have much nature stuff in it, or should I be taking Urban ACFs and variants when I can?

Edit: One last question (I hope). Are multi-classing penalties in effect?
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Scout89 on April 29, 2013, 07:58:01 AM
@Raineh Daze: That is a greatsword and a scale mail. The equipments are still WIP. And I took the liberty of creating a Greatsword out of an Assault Blade because I could not find a single two-handed weapon for Real Robots.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Kuroimaken on April 29, 2013, 08:24:09 AM
Edit: One last question (I hope). Are multi-classing penalties in effect?

...pffft.

Haha.

AHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!

 :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao

Good one, dude!
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Kuroimaken on April 29, 2013, 08:28:14 AM
Psst, Scout. Your Fortitude save is wrong.

EDIT: Also, Sargeant Antares is up.

May I post with Hugo?  :p
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Elevevated Beat on April 29, 2013, 08:48:23 AM
Edit: One last question (I hope). Are multi-classing penalties in effect?

...pffft.

Haha.

AHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!

 :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao

Good one, dude!

:(  In my defense, I've never done one of these before and even though I know the community's got a hate-boner for that rule there wasn't anything to say otherwise.

I kinda put it on the same "silly question" level as the others... but then thinking about it and seeing your reply... I did I have to laugh too :lol


Edit: Nvm. Answered my own question... :banghead
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Scout89 on April 29, 2013, 08:51:46 AM
Psst, Scout. Your Fortitude save is wrong.

You're right! Fixed it and some other details as well. Is everything ok now? Thanks a lot!
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Kuroimaken on April 29, 2013, 09:05:39 AM
Psst, Scout. Your Fortitude save is wrong.

You're right! Fixed it and some other details as well. Is everything ok now? Thanks a lot!

I think so. You're getting the Reflex save from the Real Robot side, right?
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Scout89 on April 29, 2013, 09:57:23 AM
Psst, Scout. Your Fortitude save is wrong.

You're right! Fixed it and some other details as well. Is everything ok now? Thanks a lot!

I think so. You're getting the Reflex save from the Real Robot side, right?

Exactly! You're going melee too, right?
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Nanshork on April 29, 2013, 10:05:08 AM
Did everybody end up switching to melee besides our spaceship pilot?   :P
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Kuroimaken on April 29, 2013, 10:55:50 AM
I planned to go melee from the beginning.  :P
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Raineh Daze on April 29, 2013, 11:34:57 AM
Don't really on the bard for ranged support. Especially not when I have abilities that work best within 10 feet of you. XD
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Scout89 on April 29, 2013, 01:22:35 PM
I think I'm the only one who changed. And I did it because I thought we'd need more front line people. I think there are at least two other ranged guys and the ship captain.
That I know of, the melee guys are the kobold, my character and Kuroimaken's, so I guess it is well balanced now.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Concerned Ninja Citizen on April 29, 2013, 04:57:41 PM
I've switched from melee to ranged, sort of. My primary offensive ability is a 15ft cone, so I'll need to be closeish to work it, and my AC is scary, in mecha form at least, so I can tank pretty well. However, I have no need for str so I won't be making any melee attacks.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: oslecamo on April 29, 2013, 06:28:31 PM
So... question. Can I sneak attack with a flamer futuristic weapon from the DMG?
No, you can only sneak attack with stuff that demands attack rolls.

@Raineh Daze: That is a greatsword and a scale mail. The equipments are still WIP. And I took the liberty of creating a Greatsword out of an Assault Blade because I could not find a single two-handed weapon for Real Robots.
Any arsenal melee weapon can be wielded two-handed if you choose to, just like regular melee weapons. Trying to improvise your own weapons at this stage is not aceptable.

Hiii...

Are Regional Feats allowed? Was looking at taking Swift and Silent.
Cityscape Web Enhancement?
I'm just going to assume Dragon Mag/Comp is out as there was no mention of it at all.
I apologise if those were explained in your "Crunch" post. I just wanted to double check that "every 3.5 book under the sun" literally meant book and was not inclusive of magazines or webpages.
-One regional feat per character tops.
-What enhancment again?
-Yes, drag magazine is out by default.

Also, will this campaign have much nature stuff in it, or should I be taking Urban ACFs and variants when I can?
If by "nature" you mean alien forests and abandoned facilities, sure, it will have plenty of nature stuff. :p

Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Scout89 on April 30, 2013, 07:30:00 AM
@Raineh Daze: That is a greatsword and a scale mail. The equipments are still WIP. And I took the liberty of creating a Greatsword out of an Assault Blade because I could not find a single two-handed weapon for Real Robots.
Any arsenal melee weapon can be wielded two-handed if you choose to, just like regular melee weapons. Trying to improvise your own weapons at this stage is not aceptable.

Ok! Respecing again. He'll be a two-weapon fighter. For the Weapon Focus feat, what are the Plasma Swords? Longswords? Or a complete different weapon?
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Raineh Daze on April 30, 2013, 07:45:37 AM
Honestly, I would strongly advise not taking Weapon Focus with a Real Robot. Apart from the fact you're basically asking for 'weapon focus: one-handed blades', the class is pretty much built around upgrading, replacing, and swapping parts out. You're pretty much shooting yourself in the foot by taking a class that goes in for modularity and then restricting yourself like that.  :-\


It works better with Super Robots, honestly (Main Weapon, upgrade that, focus on pimping the mecha and using the one weapon).
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Concerned Ninja Citizen on April 30, 2013, 07:56:27 AM
Weapon Focus is very rarely worth taking as a feat in any situation. There are other, better, sources of attack bonuses if that's what you need.

If you want to go TWF with a Real Robot, my recommendation would be to take one plasma sword and one steel knife. The knife has the defensive property, which lets you use it as an immediate action. So attack with the plasma sword on your turn, and the knife on your opponent's turn. Two attacks with no need for the TWF feat and no attack penalty.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Nanshork on April 30, 2013, 11:53:21 AM
Despite the SRD races restriction I assume that Azurin will be allowed?
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Scout89 on April 30, 2013, 12:31:06 PM
Honestly, I would strongly advise not taking Weapon Focus with a Real Robot. Apart from the fact you're basically asking for 'weapon focus: one-handed blades', the class is pretty much built around upgrading, replacing, and swapping parts out. You're pretty much shooting yourself in the foot by taking a class that goes in for modularity and then restricting yourself like that.  :-\


It works better with Super Robots, honestly (Main Weapon, upgrade that, focus on pimping the mecha and using the one weapon).

I didn't say I was going to take it. I asked because, if he considered that weapon a longsword, I might consider focusing on that kind of weapon.
I thought about building a Super Robot, but there's no way a Super be as effective as a Real Robot in early levels as a melee unit. If I spend all upgrade points in plating and agility, I'll have an AC of 16 + DEX modifier. And I'll have two low-damage attacks. With a Real Robot my AC can start at 18 + DEX and have better damaging weapons.

Weapon Focus is very rarely worth taking as a feat in any situation. There are other, better, sources of attack bonuses if that's what you need.

If you want to go TWF with a Real Robot, my recommendation would be to take one plasma sword and one steel knife. The knife has the defensive property, which lets you use it as an immediate action. So attack with the plasma sword on your turn, and the knife on your opponent's turn. Two attacks with no need for the TWF feat and no attack penalty.

You say Weapon Specialization is not a good deal?
I agree with the Steel Knife part, but with the TWF feat I can attack twice on my turn and once on the enemy's turn. With all those attacks, I can mitigate the low damage output due to low STR. I know that -2 to both attacks is a pain in lower levels, but I want to have the option of using both or one of the weapons in combat. If it's hard to hit an enemy, I'll just attack with one hand to increase the odds.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Raineh Daze on April 30, 2013, 12:41:32 PM
+1 just to damage, in exchange for a pair of feats and being a particular class? Bad, bad deal.

I'm not entirely sure what point Super Robots actually start to equal Real Robots (if any), which really isn't helped by giving the small level 1 real robot a 1d12 ranged attack. And flight. And a +3 bonus to hit. And then at the high end you get a Real Robot with a 20d8 attack, more HP, more armour, more DR, and a bigger save bonus. Before you start stacking things on it. Also huge energy, and a beam coat.

... I still say something is up with the balance on that. You get to customise, but if you try and specialise you're outdone, and if you generalise, uh... that's not very Super at all.

Looking at the Arsenal, you can take these twothings, stack them on the above mecha, and still have space for that Graviton Cannon or the Neo-Chakram Caster. Oh, and you can buff energy regeneration.

(click to show/hide)

So, uh even if they don't stack, that's still a huge bunch of buffs on top of something strong to start with. :/
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Scout89 on April 30, 2013, 01:16:59 PM
+1 just to damage, in exchange for a pair of feats and being a particular class? Bad, bad deal.

I'm not entirely sure what point Super Robots actually start to equal Real Robots (if any), which really isn't helped by giving the small level 1 real robot a 1d12 ranged attack. And flight. And a +3 bonus to hit. And then at the high end you get a Real Robot with a 20d8 attack, more HP, more armour, more DR, and a bigger save bonus. Before you start stacking things on it. Also huge energy, and a beam coat.

... I still say something is up with the balance on that. You get to customise, but if you try and specialise you're outdone, and if you generalise, uh... that's not very Super at all.

Looking at the Arsenal, you can take these twothings, stack them on the above mecha, and still have space for that Graviton Cannon or the Neo-Chakram Caster. Oh, and you can buff energy regeneration.

(click to show/hide)

So, uh even if they don't stack, that's still a huge bunch of buffs on top of something strong to start with. :/

Both feats total +1 to attack and +2 to damage. For a two-weapon fighter that gives up his STR for DEX, a +2 to damage can easely compensate it. And, in the future, with two more feats he can get +2 to attack and +4 to damage. I think it is worth it.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Raineh Daze on April 30, 2013, 01:27:20 PM
You've also taken a penalty to your attack by using two weapons, which isn't compensated for by the weapon focus (especially because, unless they're both 'light' weapons, the penalty is bigger), and whilst that SHOULD increase damage output, you've got the strength penalty, loss of the extra 0.5x strength to your damage, and the weapons do less damage individually (though, in this case, there's a distinct lack of two-handed weapons). So, in short, you basically spend four feats (and three more if you want another off-hand attack to have the same potential damage) to not even catch up before adding in bonuses that said two-handed fighter could be receiving. See the problem?
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Nanshork on April 30, 2013, 02:06:10 PM
Attacking with two-weapons is only a good option if you have a source of bonus damage dice like sneak attack.  Otherwise Power Attacking with a two-handed weapon is going to do significantly more damage with a higher chance of hitting.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Scout89 on April 30, 2013, 03:54:08 PM
You've also taken a penalty to your attack by using two weapons, which isn't compensated for by the weapon focus (especially because, unless they're both 'light' weapons, the penalty is bigger), and whilst that SHOULD increase damage output, you've got the strength penalty, loss of the extra 0.5x strength to your damage, and the weapons do less damage individually (though, in this case, there's a distinct lack of two-handed weapons). So, in short, you basically spend four feats (and three more if you want another off-hand attack to have the same potential damage) to not even catch up before adding in bonuses that said two-handed fighter could be receiving. See the problem?

Hmm... You're right. I wasn't considering that. Have to think about it.

Attacking with two-weapons is only a good option if you have a source of bonus damage dice like sneak attack.  Otherwise Power Attacking with a two-handed weapon is going to do significantly more damage with a higher chance of hitting.

But there are no two-handers in mech combat yet. I'd have to use an Assault Blade until they show up. IF they show up.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Raineh Daze on April 30, 2013, 03:56:32 PM
Use a one-handed sword, wield it two-handed, and have a shield (because mecha shields are bolted to your arm)? No dexterity dependency, another 0.5x strength damage. Or, as someone said, take the steel knife/assault blade combo (which still works with the shield).
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Kuroimaken on April 30, 2013, 04:20:39 PM
TWF works best with a source of extra damage applicable to EACH attack (in which case attack number is a force of multiplication) and/or something that allows you to get a LOT more extra attacks per weapon wielded. Otherwise... Typically not worth it.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: oslecamo on May 01, 2013, 06:56:01 AM
Despite the SRD races restriction I assume that Azurin will be allowed?
Yes.

You've also taken a penalty to your attack by using two weapons, which isn't compensated for by the weapon focus (especially because, unless they're both 'light' weapons, the penalty is bigger), and whilst that SHOULD increase damage output, you've got the strength penalty, loss of the extra 0.5x strength to your damage, and the weapons do less damage individually (though, in this case, there's a distinct lack of two-handed weapons). So, in short, you basically spend four feats (and three more if you want another off-hand attack to have the same potential damage) to not even catch up before adding in bonuses that said two-handed fighter could be receiving. See the problem?

Hmm... You're right. I wasn't considering that. Have to think about it.

Attacking with two-weapons is only a good option if you have a source of bonus damage dice like sneak attack.  Otherwise Power Attacking with a two-handed weapon is going to do significantly more damage with a higher chance of hitting.

But there are no two-handers in mech combat yet. I'd have to use an Assault Blade until they show up. IF they show up.
Again, you can perfectly grab a one-handed weapon with two hands.

I'll also advise against weapon focus.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Nanshork on May 01, 2013, 10:19:51 AM
Alright, now I just have to decide if I want to go with a Super Robot or a Real Robot.   Super Robot fits better thematically but Real Robots get niftier options...
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: oslecamo on May 01, 2013, 01:13:22 PM
Speaking of which, I need another plot, since it doesn't make much sense the lv1 party going to Ragol when they've specifically requested the 12th level party to do it.

My plan for the Low-End starting fluff would be something along the lines of:
-In Parum, after the Devastation war Bioplants were created to try to build up the planet's fauna and flora.
-Recently, something has gone wrong in one of those plants and it starts crancking up lesser biomonsters in auto mode.
-Android Administration doesn't want a ruckus to be raised over this, so they isolate the place and send in some low-profile people (you) to take care of it.

How does it sound?
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Raineh Daze on May 01, 2013, 01:41:30 PM
I like this.

It's much, much less terrifying.

And I think we should manage to avoid this. XD (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjDQvHBQpKs)

Seriously, I hate that worm. ;-;
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Scout89 on May 01, 2013, 04:32:34 PM
Sounds good to me!

On a side note, I have a feat to choose. Any suggestions?
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Kuroimaken on May 01, 2013, 04:53:33 PM
Works for me.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Concerned Ninja Citizen on May 01, 2013, 08:13:23 PM
Biomonsters sound lovely.

On a side note, I have a feat to choose. Any suggestions?

What's your plan for later levels?

Why do you have dodge? Is it a prereq for something? If not, it's probably not worth having.

Battle Jump (http://dndtools.eu/feats/unapproachable-east--33/battle-jump--187/) may be a solid choice depending on whether you can activate it with mecha flight.

If you're planning to go for either Dungeon Crasher next level or Shock Trooper if we get that far, Improved Bull Rush is a possibility.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Kuroimaken on May 01, 2013, 08:37:16 PM
If you fly, Battle Jump doesn't work.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Clanjos on May 01, 2013, 08:41:37 PM
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while under the influence of a fly or levitate spell or effect

I see nothing preventing a creature with a fly speed from taking the feat and using it while diving at a foe.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Concerned Ninja Citizen on May 01, 2013, 08:53:01 PM
Particularly considering that standard mecha flight has you fall if you don't end on a secure surface. It seems like you could set yourself up to deliberately fall on to an enemy pretty easily.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Kuroimaken on May 01, 2013, 09:24:43 PM
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while under the influence of a fly or levitate spell or effect

I see nothing preventing a creature with a fly speed from taking the feat and using it while diving at a foe.

Wouldn't a flight speed count as an effect?
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Clanjos on May 01, 2013, 09:27:45 PM
I don't know, is walking an effect? What about a swimming fish?
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Concerned Ninja Citizen on May 01, 2013, 09:37:35 PM
The reason the Fly and Levitate spells are called out specifically is that they magically hold you up. You can't choose to fall while under the effect of those spells without dismissing the spell.

A creature with wings, on the other hand, can fold its wings and effectively stop flying and start falling.

Given that mecha flight is accomplished by thrusters that can be turned off (and turn off automatically at the end of movement unless you have an upgrade/ type of robot that has a full flight speed) they would seem to fall into the latter category and not the former.

On the RAW side, "effect" in that context is referencing flight as an SLA or supernatural ability. It's not trying to say that all flight is the same as a fly spell.

However, this DM ruling territory and it won't even matter unless Scout89 decides he wants to take the feat so let's table this discussion for now.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Nanshork on May 01, 2013, 11:13:58 PM
Anybody have an opinion on what Pilot Class I should take to go with Incarnate?  I just can't decide.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Concerned Ninja Citizen on May 01, 2013, 11:25:57 PM
It depends somewhat on what role you're filling but my plan was to go real pilot 1 and then multiclass into super. Real has much superior stats at 1st level, esp for a tank (which was what I was trying to do.)
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Nanshork on May 01, 2013, 11:54:01 PM
We've got tanks and dedicated melee and dedicated ranged.  I'm just going for the jack-of-all-trades kind of guy which Incarnate does well.  I'd probably end up going with one of the spellcasting classes except spellcasters have never really appealed to me...
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Concerned Ninja Citizen on May 01, 2013, 11:59:17 PM
The casters are also really fragile and at lv1 everyone is fragile.

Versatility wise, I'd probably go Real. Arsenal is a major source of versatility and you get quite a bit of it from a lv1 real robot. It does make the background a little more difficult to figure out but it works much better mechanically.

On a different note, Power Surge (http://www.realmshelps.net/cgi-bin/featbox.pl?feat=Power_Surge) is a Dragon Magazine feat that I would like to take. Specifically, I want to use the duration increasing function on my Entangling Exhalation augmented Breath Weapon.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: oslecamo on May 02, 2013, 04:36:17 PM
Battle Jump (http://dndtools.eu/feats/unapproachable-east--33/battle-jump--187/) may be a solid choice depending on whether you can activate it with mecha flight.

I'm not aproving Battle Jump, mostly because the feat is a mess as it is written since it never explains what action is actually needed for the falling charge.

On a different note, Power Surge (http://www.realmshelps.net/cgi-bin/featbox.pl?feat=Power_Surge) is a Dragon Magazine feat that I would like to take. Specifically, I want to use the duration increasing function on my Entangling Exhalation augmented Breath Weapon.
Now that one I'm fine with.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Concerned Ninja Citizen on May 02, 2013, 04:38:09 PM
Cool. Then I'm officially done with my low end character (have 20gp to spend but I may just keep it for incidentals.)
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Kuroimaken on May 02, 2013, 04:53:46 PM
Battle Jump (http://dndtools.eu/feats/unapproachable-east--33/battle-jump--187/) may be a solid choice depending on whether you can activate it with mecha flight.

I'm not aproving Battle Jump, mostly because the feat is a mess as it is written since it never explains what action is actually needed for the falling charge.

On a different note, Power Surge (http://www.realmshelps.net/cgi-bin/featbox.pl?feat=Power_Surge) is a Dragon Magazine feat that I would like to take. Specifically, I want to use the duration increasing function on my Entangling Exhalation augmented Breath Weapon.
Now that one I'm fine with.

I presume the action is... falling? Which is not an action.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Concerned Ninja Citizen on May 02, 2013, 05:33:01 PM
That's where the "mess" part comes in. As written it lets you perform a charge (a full round action) without spending an action at all. You could potentially full attack, then use some form of swift action movement (Travel Devotion springs to mind) to get in a position to activate Battle jump, and then full attack again using pounce. This can be accomplished at lv1 with flaws and is kinda silly.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Kuroimaken on May 02, 2013, 05:54:05 PM
That's where the "mess" part comes in. As written it lets you perform a charge (a full round action) without spending an action at all. You could potentially full attack, then use some form of swift action movement (Travel Devotion springs to mind) to get in a position to activate Battle jump, and then full attack again using pounce. This can be accomplished at lv1 with flaws and is kinda silly.

But it's not like there isn't precedent for it (performing actions for free, lessening costs etc.). Besides, it requires you to invest significantly in mobility to really shine (you need pounce to full attack on a charge, and you can't actually FALL if you don't have any movement left in a round).
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Elevevated Beat on May 03, 2013, 05:53:08 AM
Sugar. Totally thought I had posted my answer before.

Oslecamo, the web enhancement I am after is (link to wizards site) Voice of the City (http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/we/20070228a).

Wait, there was another. Trading Ride as a Class Skill for Tumble. Under Skilled City-Dweller (same website)
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: oslecamo on May 03, 2013, 07:25:11 PM
Don't see anything wrong with Voice of the City.

Low End IC probably hopefully shall be put on tommorrow.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Nanshork on May 03, 2013, 09:07:58 PM
Edit: Nevermind all that.

Hmm, feats are proving hard to pick.

Edit edit: Done.  I'm now good at melee and ranged, and I'm a stealthy bastard and very quick.  This is working out well.

Now down to gear and backstory.  Well, and a name.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Scout89 on May 03, 2013, 10:28:06 PM
Big change in my character's sheet. He's still melee-speced, but not a fighter anymore...
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Nanshork on May 04, 2013, 12:12:46 AM
Bartok is finished and ready to go tomorrow. :)
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Kuroimaken on May 04, 2013, 11:17:07 AM
I just need to put the finishing touches on equipment and Hugo will be ready to go (I also need to fill in his sheet).

Hmmm. I want to trade Scribe Scroll, but for what...
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Raineh Daze on May 04, 2013, 11:19:25 AM
Huh, have to move the ship up a size already.

And we have a lot of Gespents on board. O_o
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Nanshork on May 05, 2013, 12:44:18 AM
I have now decided, Incarnum is officially hologram technology akin to that of Star Trek.

Edit: Shit, I don't have Incarnum Weapon shaped.  Maybe I should just break down and buy a weapon...
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Concerned Ninja Citizen on May 05, 2013, 01:24:53 AM
Incarnum Weapon is decent outside the mecha but mecha weapons outclass it by a fair margin. That was one of the reasons I decided not to play an Incarnate.

Hologram tech sounds like perfect fluff for it, though.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Elevevated Beat on May 05, 2013, 02:20:26 AM
Just reposting this, Oslecamo, not sure if you got it as you posted right before I finished my edit.

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Wait, there was another. Trading Ride as a Class Skill for Tumble. Under Skilled City-Dweller (same website)
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Nanshork on May 05, 2013, 12:06:39 PM
Incarnum Weapon is decent outside the mecha but mecha weapons outclass it by a fair margin. That was one of the reasons I decided not to play an Incarnate.

Hologram tech sounds like perfect fluff for it, though.

That's the reason I don't have it shaped.   :p
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: oslecamo on May 05, 2013, 07:04:12 PM
Just reposting this, Oslecamo, not sure if you got it as you posted right before I finished my edit.

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Wait, there was another. Trading Ride as a Class Skill for Tumble. Under Skilled City-Dweller (same website)

Yes.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Nanshork on May 05, 2013, 08:34:38 PM
Oslecamo, since we haven't actually done anything yet can I buy a weapon?
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Clanjos on May 06, 2013, 10:41:14 AM
...Sadly, Shatterscale hasn't crafted any explosives. So it looks like blowing up the wall at D-17 and going through that way isn't an option.

YET.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: oslecamo on May 06, 2013, 04:32:54 PM
Oslecamo, since we haven't actually done anything yet can I buy a weapon?
Yes. Until I first ask you to roll iniative feel free for any last-moment character crunch polishing.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Nanshork on May 06, 2013, 04:43:25 PM
Oslecamo, since we haven't actually done anything yet can I buy a weapon?
Yes. Until I first ask you to roll iniative feel free for any last-moment character crunch polishing.

Hooray, not uselessness!

I'll just get rid of it when I can have four or five soulmelds.   :P

...it feels weird to be playing a character that doesn't care so much about normal equipment.

Edit: I still care at low levels, I care so much.

I'm now sword and board with medium armor, switched Int and Wis, fiddled with skills, and adjusted an arsenal since I have no stealth abilities now.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Clanjos on May 07, 2013, 10:06:58 AM
Hm... gonna look at alchemical stuff for the party.

...Huh. I can turn out 6 flasks of acid a week. Not much, but it's something.

If I can get bonuses, I might be able to craft us some Shapesand down the way.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Elevevated Beat on May 07, 2013, 10:22:30 AM
Question. How long have we known one another?

It may be that I'm jet lagged, tired, need to sleep and whatnot but what will leather armour and a longbow be refluffed to? I wasn't sure if there was a refluff thread that outlined this :(



One last disclaimer: As this is my first PbP and I'm still new to this game (please, stifle the groans :P) I would appreciate any constructive criticism you guys have got.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Nanshork on May 07, 2013, 10:25:51 AM
Question. How long have we known one another?

It may be that I'm jet lagged, tired, need to sleep and whatnot but what will leather armour and a longbow be refluffed to? I wasn't sure if there was a refluff thread that outlined this :(



One last disclaimer: As this is my first PbP and I'm still new to this game (please, stifle the groans :P) I would appreciate any constructive criticism you guys have got.

I think you just refluff it to whatever you feel is appropriate.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Kuroimaken on May 07, 2013, 10:30:46 AM
Question. How long have we known one another?

It may be that I'm jet lagged, tired, need to sleep and whatnot but what will leather armour and a longbow be refluffed to? I wasn't sure if there was a refluff thread that outlined this :(



One last disclaimer: As this is my first PbP and I'm still new to this game (please, stifle the groans :P) I would appreciate any constructive criticism you guys have got.

Whatever you want, within reason. Probably a ceramics plate and a long gun of some sort (small caliber shotgun?).
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Elevevated Beat on May 07, 2013, 10:44:39 AM
Also. What has happened to magic? I'm writing out Cashile's backstory, but... it looks like mage's, or magic, died out centuries ago =/
One of the parts of his backstory was being a lucksack killing a mage and being rewarded with a suit for it...
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Raineh Daze on May 07, 2013, 11:40:14 AM
Incarnum has become Holograms, magic would be Techniques. Photon manipulation or... something.

Bardic music is probably just excessively awesome music. :lmao

I find it hilarious that the 10 Int, 8 Cha warblade is assuming command. Time to put a stop to this silliness.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Scout89 on May 07, 2013, 02:05:36 PM
Incarnum has become Holograms, magic would be Techniques. Photon manipulation or... something.

Bardic music is probably just excessively awesome music. :lmao

I find it hilarious that the 10 Int, 8 Cha warblade is assuming command. Time to put a stop to this silliness.

Maybe it's because I'm not native english speaker, but Bagra is not trying to command. No one had any plan. You want to raid an instalation full of monsters with no plan at all?
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Raineh Daze on May 07, 2013, 02:13:51 PM
I should point out that I was kind of occupied so I, myself, couldn't interject before he kept contradicting everyone else. >.>

Taking charge of planning when no-one else was is kind of assuming command, anyway. :p
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Scout89 on May 07, 2013, 02:18:30 PM
Exactly! Since the one that should be planning isn't doing it, someone has to step up. Even with WIS 10 and CHA 8. But nevermind that. Lead us, oh great leader! Lead us to a glorious battle!
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Raineh Daze on May 07, 2013, 02:19:29 PM
... what, you mean the fact I was in lessons and not available to post makes it perfectly sensible for the Warblade to take charge? :/
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Scout89 on May 07, 2013, 02:39:15 PM
Again, no one else did. This is a fast-paced campaign. We can't just sit around waiting for someone to post. And your character's introduction never pointed out that you were in charge of anything. I thought there was no one in charge. But that's enough discussion. This matter should be resolved IC.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Raineh Daze on May 07, 2013, 02:41:38 PM
... I don't think it's supposed to be this fast paced. There's a reasonable limit. :/
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Nanshork on May 07, 2013, 02:57:06 PM
Fast paced means that we should post at least once a day, I think you're rushing things a bit Scout.   :p
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Raineh Daze on May 07, 2013, 03:18:06 PM
... doesn't look like Bagra will have many friends, if he's going to fly off the handle for having other people not want to rush in. @_@
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: oslecamo on May 07, 2013, 03:45:18 PM
Well, he's free to roleplay as the "Let's do this! CHAAARRGGGEEE!!!" character. :p

Also. What has happened to magic? I'm writing out Cashile's backstory, but... it looks like mage's, or magic, died out centuries ago =/
One of the parts of his backstory was being a lucksack killing a mage and being rewarded with a suit for it...

Added fluff entry about it.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Scout89 on May 07, 2013, 03:54:23 PM
So I got the wrong idea about the campaign. Appologies for that. I'll slow down. But bear in mind, there was no description of the hierarchy in this group. And Bagra never pressed things. Everything he was spoke were only suggestions. Re-read my posts and you'll notice that.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Raineh Daze on May 07, 2013, 04:03:30 PM
That's because, as such, there is no pre-defined hierarchy; characters have their own opinions on such things. That he started offering suggestions to everybody (and not just as friendly advice, more a 'this is what you should do' sort of way) is how he placed himself in command.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Kuroimaken on May 07, 2013, 04:41:57 PM
And that is when Sargeant Antares reminded people of Maxim 8 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schlock_Mercenary#The_Seventy_Maxims_of_Maximally_Effective_Mercenaries).
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: oslecamo on May 07, 2013, 06:36:55 PM
1st level ships do indeed look a bit too frail, so buffed up their DR considerably so they're not as vulnerable to death of a thousand cuts. Their speed now also scales with level.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Raineh Daze on May 07, 2013, 06:43:03 PM
Excellent, now it's simply frail compared to other ships (and due to my own combat ineptitude). XD

-Modifers Character Sheet.-
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Elevevated Beat on May 07, 2013, 07:42:35 PM
Also. What has happened to magic? I'm writing out Cashile's backstory, but... it looks like mage's, or magic, died out centuries ago =/
One of the parts of his backstory was being a lucksack killing a mage and being rewarded with a suit for it...

Added fluff entry about it.

Is Divine magic in the same boat? As he is a ranger and will eventually come into magic of his own I didn't want him to be angry against all magic users. Although that could be a turning point in his life...
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Clanjos on May 07, 2013, 07:43:42 PM
And that is when Sargeant Antares reminded people of Maxim 8 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schlock_Mercenary#The_Seventy_Maxims_of_Maximally_Effective_Mercenaries).

Shatterscale lives by numbers 25 and 34.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Kuroimaken on May 07, 2013, 07:44:51 PM
And that is when Sargeant Antares reminded people of Maxim 8 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schlock_Mercenary#The_Seventy_Maxims_of_Maximally_Effective_Mercenaries).

Shatterscale lives by numbers 25 and 34.

Personally, I'm afraid of rule 34...
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Elevevated Beat on May 08, 2013, 01:29:19 AM
Do you guys think it's worth getting Able Learner as a feat?
The only cross class skill I currently have is Balance, and I'm probably only going to put 10 ranks in it. I'll multiclass into Scout for a few levels, but that has all of the skills I really want to level.

Also, what do you think of Escape Artist? Or should I cleric dip and some point in time or get an item?
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Concerned Ninja Citizen on May 08, 2013, 03:58:51 AM
Why 10 ranks in Balance? 5, so you're not flat footed is the typical number.

Escape Artist is one of those skills that's nice when you need it but "when you need it" covers few enough situations that it's rarely worth the investment. It is also exceptionally easily replicated by various spells and items and also by having a buddy around to get you out of whatever you're trying to escape from (cut your bonds, kill the guy who's grappling you, etc)

Your skills look solid as they are to me. I would say Able Learner isn't really necessary just for balance (Martial Study in an appropriate discipline will get you balance as a class skill + a maneuver.) In fact, if it were me building the character I might ditch balance altogether (either live without it or wait until you take Scout levels to raise it) and put the skill points into knowledges or maybe sense motive since your wis is decent (all of which are class skills via Real Pilot.)
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Elevevated Beat on May 08, 2013, 05:31:11 AM
Why 10 ranks in Balance? 5, so you're not flat footed is the typical number.

Escape Artist is one of those skills that's nice when you need it but "when you need it" covers few enough situations that it's rarely worth the investment. It is also exceptionally easily replicated by various spells and items and also by having a buddy around to get you out of whatever you're trying to escape from (cut your bonds, kill the guy who's grappling you, etc)

Your skills look solid as they are to me. I would say Able Learner isn't really necessary just for balance (Martial Study in an appropriate discipline will get you balance as a class skill + a maneuver.) In fact, if it were me building the character I might ditch balance altogether (either live without it or wait until you take Scout levels to raise it) and put the skill points into knowledges or maybe sense motive since your wis is decent (all of which are class skills via Real Pilot.)

That's what made me question Escape Artist. Nice when you need it but those times are few and far between.
As far as Balance goes I meant 5 ranks (10 skill points w/out Able Learner)

Sense Motive I would like... and would make sense with the bodyguard past...
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: oslecamo on May 08, 2013, 08:07:28 PM
Also. What has happened to magic? I'm writing out Cashile's backstory, but... it looks like mage's, or magic, died out centuries ago =/
One of the parts of his backstory was being a lucksack killing a mage and being rewarded with a suit for it...

Added fluff entry about it.

Is Divine magic in the same boat? As he is a ranger and will eventually come into magic of his own I didn't want him to be angry against all magic users. Although that could be a turning point in his life...

Divine Forces follow philosophies and ways of life (Radha Bairaban, the Divine Pilot, is a fervant Yoga teacher). Divine magic users worshiping named entities are much more likely to be up to no good. Altough even then exceptions exist, with mechanical "gods" protecting certain populations, leting a chosen pilot to command them into battle. But if your god doesn't show his face in the open, then most factions won't be must trustworthy of them.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Elevevated Beat on May 08, 2013, 09:36:07 PM
Divine Forces follow philosophies and ways of life (Radha Bairaban, the Divine Pilot, is a fervant Yoga teacher). Divine magic users worshiping named entities are much more likely to be up to no good. Altough even then exceptions exist, with mechanical "gods" protecting certain populations, leting a chosen pilot to command them into battle. But if your god doesn't show his face in the open, then most factions won't be must trustworthy of them.

Is there a list of deities?

Or should I just go read any material about Phantasy Star I can get my hands on to answer this question?

My knowledge about this game is basically non-existent.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Kuroimaken on May 08, 2013, 10:15:10 PM
Divine Forces follow philosophies and ways of life (Radha Bairaban, the Divine Pilot, is a fervant Yoga teacher). Divine magic users worshiping named entities are much more likely to be up to no good. Altough even then exceptions exist, with mechanical "gods" protecting certain populations, leting a chosen pilot to command them into battle. But if your god doesn't show his face in the open, then most factions won't be must trustworthy of them.

Is there a list of deities?

Or should I just go read any material about Phantasy Star I can get my hands on to answer this question?

My knowledge about this game is basically non-existent.

The Phantasy Star universe has no known deities of pretty much any sort. Even in Universe, where religion seemed to be a driving force in Neudaiz, the whole thing seemed a lot more reminiscent of druid-like nature worship in Shinto clothing.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: oslecamo on May 12, 2013, 10:24:21 AM
What he said.

Also, unless anyone says otherwise by the end of the day, I'll assume that you'll all be riding inside the main ship (that has more speed/DR) in the direction of the biodome until something happens. The current discussion about painting enemies has fallen a bit on the too silly side so better get things moving if you ask me. :p
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Raineh Daze on May 12, 2013, 10:29:03 AM
Lingering Song exchanged for Launcher Pad, because singing and talking is about all I'm good for right now, so having it last longer isn't really necessary. :lmao
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Concerned Ninja Citizen on May 12, 2013, 11:31:21 AM
What he said.

Also, unless anyone says otherwise by the end of the day, I'll assume that you'll all be riding inside the main ship (that has more speed/DR) in the direction of the biodome until something happens. The current discussion about painting enemies has fallen a bit on the too silly side so better get things moving if you ask me. :p

Sounds good to me. I think the paint conversation was pretty much over anyway.

Lingering Song exchanged for Launcher Pad, because singing and talking is about all I'm good for right now, so having it last longer isn't really necessary. :lmao

By the way, why is your Leader feat listed as a flaw feat when you get it as a bonus feat from Ship Captain?
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Raineh Daze on May 12, 2013, 12:17:13 PM
Because this is Leader on top of the Ship Captain Leader. It can be taken multiple times (in this case, giving me a 10 MU Leader range rather than 5 MU).
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Elevevated Beat on May 13, 2013, 04:06:54 AM
Also, unless anyone says otherwise by the end of the day, I'll assume that you'll all be riding inside the main ship (that has more speed/DR) in the direction of the biodome until something happens. The current discussion about painting enemies has fallen a bit on the too silly side so better get things moving if you ask me. :p

Hurray! :clap
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Raineh Daze on May 13, 2013, 04:43:35 PM
And Leader swapped for Veteran Mechanic to improve survivability. XD
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Raineh Daze on May 14, 2013, 02:34:56 AM
20 MU in the air.

And pasted here as a reminder.

Quote
Launcher Pad[Ship Captain]:Fast-opening docks and magnetic catapults allow for quickly retrieving allied machines, while allowing to send them into the fray with a boost. Entering or exiting the ship is now a free action for other mechas, but they can only exit 1 round after entering. In addition when a mecha exits the ship, all of its movement speeds are doubled for 1 round.

Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: oslecamo on May 14, 2013, 07:13:06 PM
Scout89 beat the buzzer's iniatives, so feel free to act.

In case I forgot to mention it, the members of each side all act on the same iniative, using the best one among their numbers.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Elevevated Beat on May 14, 2013, 10:59:22 PM
So if one person beats the other teams initiative, the others on that team do not have to roll?

How do you add things you your roll function? Or do you just put a +3 after the roll?
Nevermind. I used my amazing intuitive prowess and searching skills and looked at Prime's dice rolling thread.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Kuroimaken on May 14, 2013, 11:44:29 PM
Scout89 beat the buzzer's iniatives, so feel free to act.

In case I forgot to mention it, the members of each side all act on the same iniative, using the best one among their numbers.

So if one person beats the other teams initiative, the others on that team do not have to roll?

I assume that's based on coordinating other people, or just for the sake of PbP expediency - things get a LOT faster if you base turns on a sequence of "players > DM > players > DM" instead of "Tom > John > DM >Rick > DM again > Bob > DM > DM > Jesus, Mary and Joseph". In the latter case we always end up "okay, who's supposed to go after <Player X>?"

Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Elevevated Beat on May 15, 2013, 01:53:07 AM
I assume that's based on coordinating other people, or just for the sake of PbP expediency - things get a LOT faster if you base turns on a sequence of "players > DM > players > DM" instead of "Tom > John > DM >Rick > DM again > Bob > DM > DM > Jesus, Mary and Joseph". In the latter case we always end up "okay, who's supposed to go after <Player X>?"

I get the DM and player's thing. But if one player beats the enemies' initiative, does that mean that we still have to roll and sort out our own initiative amongst ourselves? Or whoever posts first?
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Raineh Daze on May 15, 2013, 05:14:32 AM
I would think it means we go in player order of Initiative.

Speaking of which, what is that?
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Concerned Ninja Citizen on May 15, 2013, 06:58:08 AM
In Oslecamo's games initiative only matters to determine which side goes first in a turn. Otherwise characters act in the order that their players post. This is to prevent the game stalling if the guy with the best init can't log on for a day or so.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Raineh Daze on May 15, 2013, 07:02:20 AM
Ah, got it.

... I should probably descend, shouldn't I? XD
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Nanshork on May 15, 2013, 10:01:39 AM
It's the first battle and I already forgot to take soulmelds into account.  Guh.

Edit: Remember, everyone without a flight speed spends energy flying to the ground unless you want to just fall out of the ship.   :p
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Concerned Ninja Citizen on May 15, 2013, 10:19:40 AM
You have to pay the energy even if you have a flight speed but, otherwise, yup.

Can we replenish ammo in the battleship?

EDIT: Nan, it's Vail on point. Antares is back near the battleship.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Raineh Daze on May 15, 2013, 11:33:58 AM
Normally it takes time out of battle, but with the addition of Veteran Mechanic: one weapon per round.

Still waiting for that to be updated to actually allow the ship to be rebuilt faster or something. XD

Oh, right, forgot all mecha had some sort of flight speed. Carry on, then.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Nanshork on May 15, 2013, 11:50:29 AM
You have to pay the energy even if you have a flight speed but, otherwise, yup.

Can we replenish ammo in the battleship?

EDIT: Nan, it's Vail on point. Antares is back near the battleship.

So it is.  You should put your name in your posts so I don't get confused.   :P
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Raineh Daze on May 15, 2013, 11:55:35 AM
... so, to ready a heavy weapon, you can't use any other action. Including swift or free actions, it seems. @_@
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Concerned Ninja Citizen on May 15, 2013, 11:57:22 AM
You have to pay the energy even if you have a flight speed but, otherwise, yup.

Can we replenish ammo in the battleship?

EDIT: Nan, it's Vail on point. Antares is back near the battleship.

So it is.  You should put your name in your posts so I don't get confused.   :P

Will do, sorry about that.

... so, to ready a heavy weapon, you can't use any other action. Including swift or free actions, it seems. @_@

That's how I read it.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Nanshork on May 15, 2013, 11:59:00 AM
You have to pay the energy even if you have a flight speed but, otherwise, yup.

Can we replenish ammo in the battleship?

EDIT: Nan, it's Vail on point. Antares is back near the battleship.

So it is.  You should put your name in your posts so I don't get confused.   :P

Will do, sorry about that.

Don't worry about that, I posted the smiley because it was my fault and not yours.  I posted in a hurry and wasn't paying enough attention.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Concerned Ninja Citizen on May 15, 2013, 12:01:51 PM
Still good habit to get into, and I actually put "Antares" in my post, as I was replying to him, so that may have been what confused you.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Kuroimaken on May 15, 2013, 12:10:23 PM
So who knows what Antares is a reference to?  :P
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Concerned Ninja Citizen on May 15, 2013, 12:14:57 PM
Ready Action: firing the beam cannon against the first Buzzer to come within 200 MU of the ship (I'm having a bit of trouble counting the squares, so I'm not entirely certain none are within that area ^^;), area attack so that if multiple creatures can be attacked, they will be.

By my count they're just out of your range. 200mu is 40 squares which ends at row K.

However, I think mecha weapons ranges are range increments, not max ranges. If that is the case, you could fire the cannon now by taking a -2 range penalty. You couldn't hit more than 1 of the buzzers at once, though, so  it might be better to wait.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Raineh Daze on May 15, 2013, 01:38:56 PM
... I don't know why I'm having so much trouble counting squares. Hm.

But yeah, waiting for them to come within no-penalty range and hopefully line up. XD
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Concerned Ninja Citizen on May 15, 2013, 01:52:21 PM
I find that putting a ruler or pencil (I've been using a chopstick that happened to be within reach) on the screen helps you see which part of the map corresponds to which number/letter. Don't know if that'd help you count, though.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Elevevated Beat on May 16, 2013, 12:14:28 AM
I can't find the deployment bonus that mecha's get when leaving a battleship :(
I know I've read it before, but it's eluding me currently.

Couple more questions now that I've done my move.
Is the Stealth property exactly the same as normal stealthing? Half speed? Same bonuses?
How do we factor in height to our movement calculations?

Aaand 1 more edit. Oslecamo, I've sent you a PM. Just in case you didn't see it, I've missed it a couple of times myself.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Raineh Daze on May 16, 2013, 04:36:15 AM
You get a deployment speed boost because of Launch Pads, it's one of Alexia's feats.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: oslecamo on May 16, 2013, 03:30:49 PM
Ready Action: firing the beam cannon against the first Buzzer to come within 200 MU of the ship (I'm having a bit of trouble counting the squares, so I'm not entirely certain none are within that area ^^;), area attack so that if multiple creatures can be attacked, they will be.

By my count they're just out of your range. 200mu is 40 squares which ends at row K.

However, I think mecha weapons ranges are range increments, not max ranges. If that is the case, you could fire the cannon now by taking a -2 range penalty. You couldn't hit more than 1 of the buzzers at once, though, so  it might be better to wait.
That would be correct.

Couple more questions now that I've done my move.
Is the Stealth property exactly the same as normal stealthing? Half speed? Same bonuses?
Yes.


How do we factor in height to our movement calculations?
The same as if moving in other directions with mecha thrusters.

Aaand 1 more edit. Oslecamo, I've sent you a PM. Just in case you didn't see it, I've missed it a couple of times myself.
I didn't have time to visit this site yesterday at all if it wasn't clear. Busy busy. :p

Normally it takes time out of battle, but with the addition of Veteran Mechanic: one weapon per round.

Still waiting for that to be updated to actually allow the ship to be rebuilt faster or something. XD

Ouch, ended up completely forgeting about that one, will take care of it now. :blush
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Elevevated Beat on May 16, 2013, 10:45:08 PM
You get a deployment speed boost because of Launch Pads, it's one of Alexia's feats.

Ah hah! I knew I'd read it somewhere! Thank you :)

Aaand 1 more edit. Oslecamo, I've sent you a PM. Just in case you didn't see it, I've missed it a couple of times myself.
I didn't have time to visit this site yesterday at all if it wasn't clear. Busy busy. :p

Np, np. I'll make the adjustments now and reply. Thank you.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Raineh Daze on May 17, 2013, 07:54:22 PM
... I think this can be declared a dismal failure so far as firing a giant beam cannon is concerned. :lmao
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Raineh Daze on May 18, 2013, 12:23:43 PM
I'm not actually sure whether Antares is in range of the Leader aura or if I'd have to descend to take advantage of that. Hmm.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Kuroimaken on May 18, 2013, 12:37:00 PM
He'd probably taken at most a 5-ft step or its equivalent to deploy. He DID say "stay close to the Illustrious", after all.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Raineh Daze on May 18, 2013, 12:48:22 PM
Yeah, I'm just a bit confused whether he's still 20 MU in the air, or if height is irrelevant.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Kuroimaken on May 18, 2013, 01:10:54 PM
Well, given the choice, he'd either stand on the Illustrious or hover nearby as much as he could. Someone's gotta stick close to the plating in case the little bastards are the kind to latch on, after all - even if in-game the ship likely has point-defense systems to prevent enemies from this kind of tactics, one shouldn't expect the ship to have to blast hostiles off its own deck.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: oslecamo on May 18, 2013, 01:15:03 PM
As a reminder, heavy weapons add twice the relevant stat to damage.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Kuroimaken on May 18, 2013, 01:17:22 PM
I don't feel quite as bad for the pathetic damage roll, then.

Also, yay rending. Although not sure if that's gonna be enough yet.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Raineh Daze on May 18, 2013, 01:19:10 PM
Ah, mecha has flight. All's well.

... I'm not entirely sure what to do.  :banghead
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Kuroimaken on May 18, 2013, 01:22:06 PM
Personally, I would try to finish off anything that gets too close, wink wink.

What does Leader's Aura do, exactly?
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Raineh Daze on May 18, 2013, 01:28:24 PM
Would be easier if I could read this grid to save my life. >.<

Quote
Benefit:Allies within a 5 foot radius from you gain +1 Command bonus to attack rolls and AC.

Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Clanjos on May 18, 2013, 02:18:28 PM
...Hm... can't tell if I've been spotted yet. Since I'm alive, I'll assume I haven't.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Concerned Ninja Citizen on May 19, 2013, 09:20:38 AM
By the way, do my knowledge checks (http://www.minmaxboards.com/index.php?topic=10048.msg163625#msg163625) get me any info beyond "these are buzzers, they look like giant wasps" ?
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Raineh Daze on May 19, 2013, 09:47:03 AM
... anyone got any suggestions? The best thing I can come up with right now is Prepare for Battle on Antares. That then precludes moving, because flying takes Energy and all I can do is fly... :lmao

At the rate energy regenerates, a level one battleship  should, when travelling, be doing at most about three miles an hour. Odd.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: oslecamo on May 19, 2013, 06:42:33 PM
In case you missed it, I added the Cruising Speed default ability to battleships.

By the way, do my knowledge checks (http://www.minmaxboards.com/index.php?topic=10048.msg163625#msg163625) get me any info beyond "these are buzzers, they look like giant wasps" ?

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Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Scout89 on May 19, 2013, 06:53:32 PM
What happened to Bagra's readied Action? He had his Split Missile ready to shoot, but there wasn't a description of what they did.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: oslecamo on May 19, 2013, 07:10:27 PM
My bad, your readied action was spoilered at bottom and I ended up missing it. Rolled them and edited in IC.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Elevevated Beat on May 19, 2013, 10:44:38 PM
I'm unsure as to if this works:
As a free action at the start of my turn I use Accel (http://www.minmaxboards.com/index.php?topic=7158.msg109860#msg109860). Do I move 15 feet/mu straight away? Or is that added to my possible movement for the turn? Is it halved if I'm hiding and want to continue hiding?
Can I then fire a heavy weapon? (the one that takes a full round to use)
After that, because I'm in the Hit and Run (http://www.minmaxboards.com/index.php?topic=7159.msg109861#msg109861) stance, can I then move again?

Also, this may be an idiotic question, but are my maneuvers and spirit abilities available outside of my mecha? Assumption is, currently on, that I can use them.

One more question. Does hovering, assuming you have flight capabilities in your mecha, use any energy? Or only moving?
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Concerned Ninja Citizen on May 19, 2013, 11:24:19 PM
Spirits and pilot feats work outside mecha. Maneuvers from pilot schools require energy to activate, so they don't work if you have no energy to spend (which you won't outside your mecha unless you're a moon vanguard.)

As currently written, flight only expends energy if you move.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Elevevated Beat on May 19, 2013, 11:34:50 PM
Thanks. Moved the spirit spoiler around on my character to sheet to help me remember that.

Therefore stances will only work inside mecha, too?
I've never used a character with maneuvers before. Do stances require anything to activate?
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Concerned Ninja Citizen on May 20, 2013, 02:02:35 AM
Stances take a swift action to activate then they stay on until you exit or go into a different one.

Pilot school stances also cost energy equal to the cost of a maneuver of their level when you enter them (so they can't be used unless you have energy.) They don't take any energy to keep up once you're in the stance.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Nanshork on May 20, 2013, 10:10:51 AM
I've asked about how Accel works as well and didn't get an answer.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Raineh Daze on May 20, 2013, 12:13:26 PM
Going by reading Love further down the page, it's a speed increase of 15 MU/feet for the round. All penalties etc. liable to apply normally.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: oslecamo on May 20, 2013, 03:49:31 PM
I'm unsure as to if this works:
As a free action at the start of my turn I use Accel (http://www.minmaxboards.com/index.php?topic=7158.msg109860#msg109860). Do I move 15 feet/mu straight away? Or is that added to my possible movement for the turn? Is it halved if I'm hiding and want to continue hiding?
Can I then fire a heavy weapon? (the one that takes a full round to use)
After that, because I'm in the Hit and Run (http://www.minmaxboards.com/index.php?topic=7159.msg109861#msg109861) stance, can I then move again?
It adds to your movement speed, clarified. So you don't get a free move action out of it.

Also, this may be an idiotic question, but are my maneuvers and spirit abilities available outside of my mecha? Assumption is, currently on, that I can use them.
Yes only to spirits.

One more question. Does hovering, assuming you have flight capabilities in your mecha, use any energy? Or only moving?
Only moving.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Concerned Ninja Citizen on May 20, 2013, 03:58:12 PM
Also, this may be an idiotic question, but are my maneuvers and spirit abilities available outside of my mecha? Assumption is, currently on, that I can use them.
Yes.

Maneuvers from pilot schools can be used outside mechas? Without energy?
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Kuroimaken on May 20, 2013, 04:04:18 PM
Also, this may be an idiotic question, but are my maneuvers and spirit abilities available outside of my mecha? Assumption is, currently on, that I can use them.
Yes.

Maneuvers from pilot schools can be used outside mechas? Without energy?

IF you're a Moon Vanguard, yes.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Raineh Daze on May 20, 2013, 04:40:32 PM
So... any suggestions on how to fluff the buffing battleship maneuvers? :huh
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Concerned Ninja Citizen on May 20, 2013, 04:43:04 PM
Also, this may be an idiotic question, but are my maneuvers and spirit abilities available outside of my mecha? Assumption is, currently on, that I can use them.
Yes.

Maneuvers from pilot schools can be used outside mechas? Without energy?

IF you're a Moon Vanguard, yes.

That would not be "without energy." Also, Elevated Beat (who is the one who asked this question, no idea how it got credited to Arias, he's not even in this game) is not playing a moon vanguard.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Raineh Daze on May 20, 2013, 04:47:51 PM
Somehow, Os linked to the wrong game entirely in a quote. (http://www.minmaxboards.com/index.php?topic=8874.msg164996#msg164996) I am impressed. @_@
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: oslecamo on May 20, 2013, 04:58:02 PM
Also, this may be an idiotic question, but are my maneuvers and spirit abilities available outside of my mecha? Assumption is, currently on, that I can use them.
Yes.

Maneuvers from pilot schools can be used outside mechas? Without energy?
Hugh, only spirits. That's what I get for replying to so many questions in such short time. :blush
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Concerned Ninja Citizen on May 20, 2013, 05:12:59 PM
Hmm, what would happen if a pilot got in their mecha, entered a stance paying the energy to do so, then got out of the mecha without exiting the stance?

Would getting out of the mecha kick them out of the stance or would they be able to retain the benefit?
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Anomander on May 20, 2013, 05:15:55 PM
They'd obviously lose it. Technically the mecha has the stance, not the pilot.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Concerned Ninja Citizen on May 20, 2013, 05:29:56 PM
Quote from: Super Pilot
Your personal super robot automatically knows all maneuvers and stances you do.


Both the pilot and the robot know the stance.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Raineh Daze on May 20, 2013, 05:35:11 PM
This raises an interesting question: do Guts, Refresh, and the other healing Spirits also work on foot?
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Concerned Ninja Citizen on May 20, 2013, 05:39:10 PM
This raises an interesting question: do Guts, Refresh, and the other healing Spirits also work on foot?

They work but they heal mecha HP, not creature HP. For the same reason you can't cast Heal on a mecha (confirmed earlier in the thread), you can't use a healing spirit to heal a non mecha.

You could use Faith or Trust to heal an allied Moon Vanguard when out of your mecha, however.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Clanjos on May 21, 2013, 11:18:34 PM
Corrected an error on the character sheet- didn't realize Super Pilot was full BAB. Also working on the post.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Elevevated Beat on May 22, 2013, 12:39:41 AM
Thanks for the responses.
Just had a massive brain fart when doing the bonuses to rolls for my attack :o

One last question, for now.
I want to double check that I'm not being too literal with the reading of this (though even the intent seems to agree). With Hit and Run is the extra move action only allowed after the full round? :p
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Concerned Ninja Citizen on May 22, 2013, 12:43:33 AM
Yes. Specifically lets you fire and then move.

EDIT: Remember that mecha ranged weapons add dex to damage.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Elevevated Beat on May 22, 2013, 12:53:56 AM
Yes. Specifically lets you fire and then move.

EDIT: Remember that mecha ranged weapons add dex to damage.

Frick.

Oslecamo, can you please make note of that with the damage? I didn't add my Dex mod (+3) to the attack damage. My bad :(
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: oslecamo on May 22, 2013, 03:44:07 PM
Sure, no problem.

Hmm, what would happen if a pilot got in their mecha, entered a stance paying the energy to do so, then got out of the mecha without exiting the stance?

Would getting out of the mecha kick them out of the stance or would they be able to retain the benefit?
Kick them out.

This raises an interesting question: do Guts, Refresh, and the other healing Spirits also work on foot?

They work but they heal mecha HP, not creature HP. For the same reason you can't cast Heal on a mecha (confirmed earlier in the thread), you can't use a healing spirit to heal a non mecha.

You could use Faith or Trust to heal an allied Moon Vanguard when out of your mecha, however.
Correct.

Thanks for the responses.
Just had a massive brain fart when doing the bonuses to rolls for my attack :o

One last question, for now.
I want to double check that I'm not being too literal with the reading of this (though even the intent seems to agree). With Hit and Run is the extra move action only allowed after the full round? :p
Yes.

Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Raineh Daze on May 22, 2013, 04:03:52 PM
So, back to my previous question: how should I go about fluffing these ally-buffing maneuvers?
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: oslecamo on May 22, 2013, 05:06:19 PM
Sugestions:
-Your ship collects battlefield data and streams it to the other pilots, including video-calls holograms poping up inside the cockpits.
-Your ship uses giant laser pointers/flares to llight up the enemies.
-Considering you're a rock bard, you start up a light show during battle?
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Raineh Daze on May 22, 2013, 05:08:23 PM
I'll save the light show for higher-level maneuvers. :lmao
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Concerned Ninja Citizen on May 22, 2013, 05:18:11 PM
My High End character is currently using a Plain History created version of aid another to buff people. I'm fluffing it as he creates a map of the area in his head, figures out the best attack angles and strategies, and relays it to the target of the AA action. 

You get +5 on your next melee attack because of this, by the way.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Raineh Daze on May 22, 2013, 05:19:30 PM
Kinda depressing, because my plan was 'use Strike'. :(
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Concerned Ninja Citizen on May 22, 2013, 05:39:36 PM
It works on your next attack roll within 12 minutes. Strike doesn't require a roll, so you don't lose the bonus.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Raineh Daze on May 22, 2013, 05:42:38 PM
Excellent.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Nanshork on May 24, 2013, 04:38:40 PM
Dammit, I just realized that I did something dumb with my class choice.  There is a homebrew that Oslecamo has approved in another one of his games that would have been perfect instead of going with Incarnum.   :shakefist
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Raineh Daze on May 24, 2013, 04:39:09 PM
Remember that this is the very tightly restricted game?
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Nanshork on May 24, 2013, 04:43:58 PM
Remember that this is the very tightly restricted game?

I remember, and the class/system would most likely still be okay.  I know what I'm talking about.   :P 
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Raineh Daze on May 24, 2013, 04:48:59 PM
Then what are you talking about? I want to know, now... :(
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Nanshork on May 24, 2013, 05:02:12 PM
Then what are you talking about? I want to know, now... :(

I'm talking about this (http://www.minmaxboards.com/index.php?topic=8693.msg160336).  It is similar to Incarnum but all sciency.  Not guaranteed that it would have been approved but it is on part with Incarnum power wise.

Not that it matters now, it's a bit late to change my build.   :-\
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Concerned Ninja Citizen on May 24, 2013, 05:15:31 PM
My impression was that homebrew, even homebrew that would otherwise be approved, was, if not outright banned, then strongly discouraged in order to keep this game simple.

Otherwise I'd probably have gone with a homebrew class of some sort (or at least Martial Study and stance from the Breath of Fire discipline.)
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Nanshork on May 24, 2013, 05:30:02 PM
My impression was that homebrew, even homebrew that would otherwise be approved, was, if not outright banned, then strongly discouraged in order to keep this game simple.

Otherwise I'd probably have gone with a homebrew class of some sort (or at least Martial Study and stance from the Breath of Fire discipline.)

Direct quote from the recruiting thread
Quote from: oslecamo
3. Try to keep homebrew stuff to a minimum.

Discouraged yes, but not banned.  That's why I said not guaranteed to be approved. 

It doesn't really matter though, it is too late to change anything.  I don't know why you people keep asking me questions about it.   :P
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Concerned Ninja Citizen on May 24, 2013, 05:52:13 PM
I went and read that before posting, but I guess my interpretation of it and the resulting conversation was more to the "discouraged meaning please don't do it" end than yours.

Either way, not a big deal. If some amount of homebrew is ok, I'll seriously consider taking/ retraining feats for BoF maneuvers in a level or two. 

On that note, do Pilot classes count as martial adepts for the purposes of martial study? If so, does the "don't expend maneuvers, pay energy for them instead" aspect of pilot maneuvers apply to maneuvers learned that way?
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: oslecamo on May 25, 2013, 04:38:15 PM
Homebrew allowance may change in the future, depending on how this campaign progresses up.

On that note, do Pilot classes count as martial adepts for the purposes of martial study? If so, does the "don't expend maneuvers, pay energy for them instead" aspect of pilot maneuvers apply to maneuvers learned that way?

Yes.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Raineh Daze on May 25, 2013, 05:05:39 PM
Stop rolling criticals so often.  :shakefist


... seriously, another one. :p
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Concerned Ninja Citizen on May 25, 2013, 06:52:36 PM
Is standing from prone considered movement for the purposes of 5ft steps?
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Elevevated Beat on May 28, 2013, 10:01:27 AM
Another question about the Spirit Accel (http://www.minmaxboards.com/index.php?topic=7158.0). It says increases your movement speed increase. Does this include when using a 5ft step?
So... a 20ft step? :flutter

Also, Osle. In IC it says I'm grappled. Did you roll my opposed grapple check? Or am I to do that? The assumption's on the latter, but just checking due to me not being able to decipher the million dice rolls you made :o
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Concerned Ninja Citizen on May 28, 2013, 10:51:09 AM
A 5ft step has no connection to movement speed. Only way to increase the distance you 5ft step is an ability that specifically says it does that.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Elevevated Beat on May 28, 2013, 11:15:45 AM
A 5ft step has no connection to movement speed. Only way to increase the distance you 5ft step is an ability that specifically says it does that.

It does, though.
Quote from: SRD
You can move 5 feet in any round when you don’t perform any other kind of movement.
Emphasis mine. It definitely has a connection to movement speed.
Now, I realise that the answer is most probably going to be a big, fat, "Nooooo." I mean, everything bar stuff like Tumble (DC40), Rollerskates, etc, doesn't effect it. And the things that do affect it, point it out specifically (off the top of my head). But, I am interested nonetheless.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Raineh Daze on May 28, 2013, 12:45:52 PM
A 5ft step has no connection to movement speed. Only way to increase the distance you 5ft step is an ability that specifically says it does that.

It does, though.
Quote from: SRD
You can move 5 feet in any round when you don’t perform any other kind of movement.
Emphasis mine. It definitely has a connection to movement speed.
Now, I realise that the answer is most probably going to be a big, fat, "Nooooo." I mean, everything bar stuff like Tumble (DC40), Rollerskates, etc, doesn't effect it. And the things that do affect it, point it out specifically (off the top of my head). But, I am interested nonetheless.

By that logic, Amaterasu (in the high end) can move about a hundred and fifty feet or something as a five-foot step.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Concerned Ninja Citizen on May 28, 2013, 04:06:15 PM
A 5ft step has no connection to movement speed. Only way to increase the distance you 5ft step is an ability that specifically says it does that.

It does, though.
Quote from: SRD
You can move 5 feet in any round when you don’t perform any other kind of movement.
Emphasis mine. It definitely has a connection to movement speed.

That's a connection to "movement speed" as in "how fast you are moving in a given round" but it's not a connection to movement speed, the stat, as in "how fast you are capable of moving in a single action" because a Halfling takes the same sized 5ft step as a Human.

Thinking about it, I now realize 5ft steps do have a connection to movement speed, but only on the low end. If your speed is 5ft or less, you can't take a 5ft step as a free action.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: oslecamo on May 28, 2013, 04:06:40 PM
Is standing from prone considered movement for the purposes of 5ft steps?
I believe not.

Another question about the Spirit Accel (http://www.minmaxboards.com/index.php?topic=7158.0). It says increases your movement speed increase. Does this include when using a 5ft step?
So... a 20ft step? :flutter
As far as remember, increases to your movement speed never affect the distance of your 5-feet step range unless explicitly noticed.

Also, Osle. In IC it says I'm grappled. Did you roll my opposed grapple check? Or am I to do that? The assumption's on the latter, but just checking due to me not being able to decipher the million dice rolls you made :o
I rolled for you ahead of time here (http://www.minmaxboards.com/index.php?topic=10048.msg166276#msg166276) at the bottom of the post.





Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Nanshork on May 28, 2013, 04:33:47 PM
oslecamo, I just remembered that I think the trip attack against me should have missed but that's my fault, I've adjusted my sheet and every single bonus I get is now included in all of the math AND labeled as being included so there won't be any more confusion for anyone.

I don't want to change anything (and I could be wrong about if it missed, there are a whole lot of rolls), I just wanted to explain myself in case some of my bonuses look different.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Elevevated Beat on May 28, 2013, 10:01:33 PM
By that logic, Amaterasu (in the high end) can move about a hundred and fifty feet or something as a five-foot step.
I'll take your word on it.

That's a connection to "movement speed" as in "how fast you are moving in a given round" but it's not a connection to movement speed, the stat, as in "how fast you are capable of moving in a single action" because a Halfling takes the same sized 5ft step as a Human.

Thinking about it, I now realize 5ft steps do have a connection to movement speed, but only on the low end. If your speed is 5ft or less, you can't take a 5ft step as a free action.
I was being facetious and nit picky. I wasn't actually arguing with you about the rules :P

As far as remember, increases to your movement speed never affect the distance of your 5-feet step range unless explicitly noticed.
Ta.

I rolled for you ahead of time here (http://www.minmaxboards.com/index.php?topic=10048.msg166276#msg166276) at the bottom of the post.
Thank you.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Raineh Daze on May 30, 2013, 01:51:42 PM
I really ought to work out where Alexia is getting Nymph's Kiss from. Same place as Veteran Mechanic? :lmao
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Kuroimaken on May 30, 2013, 05:18:25 PM
Romance with a CAST. Problem solved.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Raineh Daze on May 30, 2013, 05:30:06 PM
It might work with a Newman. Casts aren't exactly fey. :p
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Kuroimaken on May 30, 2013, 07:48:21 PM
Neither are newmans.

Romance with a cyborg faery. Done.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Raineh Daze on May 30, 2013, 07:53:25 PM
Newman qualify as every race, though, remember? :lmao
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Kuroimaken on May 30, 2013, 09:28:21 PM
"...we are such FREAKS."
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Raineh Daze on June 03, 2013, 08:06:01 PM
The DM is hoarding crits again. D:
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Kuroimaken on June 04, 2013, 09:29:14 AM
'Cept not.  :p
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Raineh Daze on June 04, 2013, 09:55:34 AM
I'll wait until the end of the queue to attack, if there's anything left. :lmao
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Clanjos on June 04, 2013, 11:56:50 AM
Quick question- I didn't know withdrawing from melee combat was a full-round action- I thought it was just a Move. Is it alright if I just get rid of the attack and damage rolls and retreat?
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: oslecamo on June 04, 2013, 12:47:35 PM
Sure, since you still didn't post in the IC thread.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Elevevated Beat on June 09, 2013, 02:15:42 AM
Hm. So changing text from quoted to spoilered doesn't show up as it being edited :o

At least, it's not showing up on my screen.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Scout89 on June 11, 2013, 07:02:13 PM
Can I assume you get back into the ship to reload/repair and and continue on route to the bioplant, or something specific you want to do?
I got nothing else to do besides repairing.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Raineh Daze on June 14, 2013, 07:34:44 PM
Ah, the wonders of having an Exalted feat. Welp. :|
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Concerned Ninja Citizen on June 14, 2013, 09:08:07 PM
So Vail is either a prescient genius or letting his imagination run away with him. Probably the latter.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Raineh Daze on June 16, 2013, 10:05:58 AM
Why do I never seem to manage an above-average roll? :(

Going to move closer rather than start everyone off at the other end of the map. @_@
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Nanshork on June 16, 2013, 11:34:27 AM
I rolled so awesomely on my Spot/Listen checks that I'm passing up Prepare to Action hoping that I'll roll awesomely again.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Nanshork on June 16, 2013, 11:37:00 AM
...how high are we above the ground so I know how much energy I expend flying down?
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Raineh Daze on June 16, 2013, 11:42:51 AM
30 MU up.

Deploying is a free action, Kuroi. Also, all movement speeds are doubled for one round. Launcher Pads! :D

EDIT: Welp, you certainly rolled well again. Am I a sort of misfortune magnet? :p
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Nanshork on June 16, 2013, 11:45:19 AM
If it helps I rolled ones for both of my damage rolls.   :banghead
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Kuroimaken on June 16, 2013, 01:05:22 PM
30 MU up.

Deploying is a free action, Kuroi. Also, all movement speeds are doubled for one round. Launcher Pads! :D

EDIT: Welp, you certainly rolled well again. Am I a sort of misfortune magnet? :p

Yeah, I keep forgetting that... Man, I wish I'd used my Railgun instead.  :p
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Concerned Ninja Citizen on June 16, 2013, 02:33:32 PM
30 MU up.

Deploying is a free action, Kuroi. Also, all movement speeds are doubled for one round. Launcher Pads! :D

EDIT: Welp, you certainly rolled well again. Am I a sort of misfortune magnet? :p

Yeah, I keep forgetting that... Man, I wish I'd used my Railgun instead.  :p

I think you can edit, provided you do it before our turn finishes.

EDIT: Also, I just entangled the spitkill and one of the ants so hopefully that should make them easier to hit.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Kuroimaken on June 16, 2013, 03:31:19 PM
Well, it'd just be a damage roll.

You okay with that, Osle? I have the same to-hit for the missiles and the Railgun anyway.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: oslecamo on June 16, 2013, 04:04:16 PM
Do it.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Kuroimaken on June 16, 2013, 04:17:12 PM
Done.

And practically doubled the damage. The Railgun must like me.  :p
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Raineh Daze on June 22, 2013, 04:24:52 PM
Hmm.

So... uh... are we actually allowed to take a turn now? :blush
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Concerned Ninja Citizen on June 22, 2013, 06:00:27 PM
Why wouldn't we be? We got the first hit in, then the enemies acted, now it's us again.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Raineh Daze on June 22, 2013, 06:10:38 PM
Um... the roll for initiative comment? :huh

I'm confused.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Concerned Ninja Citizen on June 22, 2013, 07:28:06 PM
Ah, yeah, that's confusing.

Well, I'm still engaging an enemy that was already there so I don't think it matters for my action. I'll go ahead and roll anyway.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Elevevated Beat on June 23, 2013, 03:52:06 AM
Not that this actually matters due to my roll, but as the acid/noxious vapors from the spitty thing are affecting me, should I be using my mecha's fort save or mine?

Also we can have our turns. Won initiative.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: oslecamo on July 04, 2013, 12:19:04 PM
Mecha's Fort save.

Also, Raineh Daze still needs to act.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Raineh Daze on July 04, 2013, 12:42:12 PM
Oh, uh, right.

... what're the names of the two guys standing beside me again? I keep forgetting.

And are they even on the same level? And does that actually impact whether the leader aura applies? :huh

Also, you might want to do something about which site you upload to, Os, since all the pictures have been replaced with the 'upgrade for more bandwidth' thing.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: oslecamo on July 04, 2013, 12:52:38 PM
Well, you sugest another free image uploading site. My photobucket free monthly bandwitch will aparently reset in 11 days.

You can help by not checking my stuff too many times. Every time you open a new window with it, you eat my free bandwitch. I'll also see on cuting down unnecessary images (I guess the monster gifs aren't helping much on that matter).

The guys next to you are Aden and Cashille, and they're floating right next to your ship, thus benefiting from your leader aura.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Raineh Daze on July 04, 2013, 12:54:50 PM
Imgur. Imageshack.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Scout89 on July 04, 2013, 10:04:11 PM
If I may, I'd like to suggest Pyromancers (http://www.pyromancers.com). Free and easy!
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Raineh Daze on July 06, 2013, 12:59:08 PM
Fuily ignoring DR? Seriously? :|
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: oslecamo on July 06, 2013, 01:03:41 PM
Super Mutant.  :p

(the other mutant on the previous battle tecnically also could ignore all DR, it just never got to get close enough to you).
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Raineh Daze on July 06, 2013, 01:07:26 PM
It's the 'fully', rather than 'half' part that's weird.

Also, I have no idea if this is intentional or not, but aside from Veteran Mechanic there are no rules given for repairing partially damaged Mecha.

There are absolutely none at all given for repairing non-exploded ships. The only mention of repairing things is in the battleship writeup, and it'd be an interesting topological exercise to fit a ship inside itself for repairs. :lmao
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: oslecamo on July 06, 2013, 01:22:13 PM
It's the 'fully', rather than 'half' part that's weird.
Just as planned. :smirk

Also, I have no idea if this is intentional or not, but aside from Veteran Mechanic there are no rules given for repairing partially damaged Mecha.

There are absolutely none at all given for repairing non-exploded ships. The only mention of repairing things is in the battleship writeup, and it'd be an interesting topological exercise to fit a ship inside itself for repairs. :lmao
Excellent point, added rules on mecha basics for repairing non-destroyed mecha, plus clause for it in veteran mechanics.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Raineh Daze on July 06, 2013, 01:41:58 PM
Okay, some questions:

1) Does the fact that I forgot to add my dexterity modifier to damage last round make a difference to the outcome? >_>;

2) Does 'insect is latched onto me' count as threatened and result in provoking an AoO if I shoot at it? :lmao
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Kuroimaken on July 06, 2013, 02:03:14 PM
Exactly what can I make an AoO WITH?
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Clanjos on July 06, 2013, 02:33:13 PM
Note to self: Pick up "Confound the Big Folk" ASAP.

Also, down to one HP, but Regeneration will restore one after this round. Does standing from a trip provoke an Attack of Opportunity?
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Raineh Daze on July 07, 2013, 09:54:59 PM
Exactly what can I make an AoO WITH?

Got a melee weapon attached? Don't think I've seen anything about mecha drawing weaponry.

Hey, Os, post above needs a reply. :lmao
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: oslecamo on July 08, 2013, 12:37:27 PM
Exactly what can I make an AoO WITH?

Whack them with your railgun dealing 1d6 damage base as an improvised weapon (-4 penalty on the attack roll). :p
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Raineh Daze on July 08, 2013, 12:39:52 PM
Okay, some questions:

1) Does the fact that I forgot to add my dexterity modifier to damage last round make a difference to the outcome? >_>;

2) Does 'insect is latched onto me' count as threatened and result in provoking an AoO if I shoot at it? :lmao

Still need to know these. :(
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: oslecamo on July 08, 2013, 04:00:10 PM
1)Not really.

2)Yes.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Raineh Daze on July 08, 2013, 04:04:21 PM
Well, wonderful. If I shoot at it to hopefully kill the thing, I get attacked and probably take more damage. Hum.

Anti-air gun rolling time, I guess. XD

Guess it's also helpful to know if this makes any difference before I fire at something already dead. (http://www.minmaxboards.com/index.php?topic=10048.new#new)
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Kuroimaken on July 08, 2013, 07:15:55 PM
Exactly what can I make an AoO WITH?

Whack them with your railgun dealing 1d6 damage base as an improvised weapon (-4 penalty on the attack roll). :p

Huh. I was pretty sure you couldn't deal an AoO with an improvised or nonproficient weapon, but I guess either I was crazy or the SRD gave me the slip.

Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Raineh Daze on July 08, 2013, 07:46:37 PM
Yeah, can't find anything like that. Not under AoO's, Improvised Weaponry, or lacking proficiency. So you could make one. :lmao
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: oslecamo on July 15, 2013, 07:56:21 AM
Last call before I start resolving this round tommorrow. Raineh Daze and Clanjos have yet to act.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Raineh Daze on July 15, 2013, 08:01:56 AM
Still need an answer: whether I'd be shooting at something that's already dead and/or took damage in the first place (because Cashile made two attacks against the ant, one AoO and one defensive, and I made a defensive attack) before I can work out what to do.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: oslecamo on July 15, 2013, 08:22:49 AM
Now that I noticed Kuro had misrolled his damage, that's enough to make the mutant ant drop togheter with all the other attacks.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Raineh Daze on July 15, 2013, 08:24:21 AM
Was this before or after I got hit? :lmao
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: oslecamo on July 15, 2013, 08:37:40 AM
After, since it's taking in acount the mini macross missile massacre.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Raineh Daze on July 15, 2013, 08:41:14 AM
Okay, then.

I've got a funeral to go to soon, so the post'll be up after that.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Kuroimaken on July 15, 2013, 08:50:09 AM
Now that I noticed Kuro had misrolled his damage, that's enough to make the mutant ant drop togheter with all the other attacks.


I did?  :huh
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: oslecamo on July 15, 2013, 09:14:13 AM
Yes. You rolled 1d2 for homing missile damage, when it's suposed to be 1d10.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Raineh Daze on July 15, 2013, 09:18:21 AM
I know 10 is 2 in binary, but I don't think that's what the rules meant. :lmao
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Kuroimaken on July 15, 2013, 10:06:06 AM
I was sure I'd rolled 1d12.

Ah well.  :P
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Clanjos on July 15, 2013, 03:23:25 PM
I've had a most likely stupid idea.


Thoughts?
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Elevevated Beat on July 15, 2013, 07:26:50 PM
When did the sickened condition wear off? (I got it from the spitty bugs)
Start of their turn or start of ours?

@Clanjos
Mechanics wise I'll let the others talk about that.
But style wise. Do it :lmao
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: oslecamo on July 16, 2013, 11:08:12 AM
My home internet connection decided to spontaneously combust. Posting this from a library computer. Update will probably be delayed tough.

I've had a most likely stupid idea.

  • These monsters aren't mechas, and thus are subject to the penalties associated with fighting smaller opponents.
  • When a mecha is sufficiently damaged, the pod allows you to eject "In any direction you choose.
  • It takes a lot of force to launch the escape pod.
  • Alexia has Veteran Mechanic and can fix totalled mechs.
  • Therefore, it is tactically sound for Shatterscale to provoke an attack of opportunity, launch the escape pod into the ant's smugass face, and attack it from where its jaws can't reach.

Thoughts?
Rule of cool says you can. However you won't be able to use your mecha for the rest of this battle, and there's a nonzero chance you'll still be facing one group of giant monsters before geting into the bioplant.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Raineh Daze on July 18, 2013, 07:26:30 AM
Question: would I lose 2 energy due to e-field, even though 3/4 of 2 is 1.5 which is still 2, and does that even apply to energy damage? :lmao
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: oslecamo on July 18, 2013, 07:39:14 AM
E-field applies to all damage, but it's suposed to round down, clarified in battleship list.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: oslecamo on July 18, 2013, 07:56:05 AM
Raineh Daze: Aren't you suposed to be making two attack/damage rolls since you're firing two missiles?
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Raineh Daze on July 18, 2013, 07:58:31 AM
Um... but I did. :p
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Raineh Daze on July 18, 2013, 10:36:25 AM
I think Shatterscale gets an effective +8 to his attacks regardless of which scale he's operating on, since if it's normal then there's a -8 penalty imposed on the monsters' attack and AC, whilst on MU he's Fine-sized and gets a +8. :lmao
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Elevevated Beat on July 24, 2013, 06:24:34 AM
Sooo. Heavy adds twice your Str/Dex mod :(
Man, I feel like a twat now.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: oslecamo on July 25, 2013, 06:11:39 AM
Last call before I update tommorrow. Kuro still has to act.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Kuroimaken on July 25, 2013, 09:02:06 AM
The hell I do. I'm pretty sure there were no results posted on the Macross Missile Massacre!
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: oslecamo on July 25, 2013, 09:04:52 AM
Macross Missile Massacre was solved here (http://www.minmaxboards.com/index.php?topic=9918.msg177556#msg177556), 3rd paragraph.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Kuroimaken on July 25, 2013, 09:07:33 AM
I had a derp then. Acting soon.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Raineh Daze on July 26, 2013, 12:53:09 PM
... I just realised I haven't been keeping track of the meseta we've gained. XD
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Concerned Ninja Citizen on July 27, 2013, 10:09:25 PM
Keeping track isn't a top priority, IMO. We can go back through the thread and count it when we get an opportunity to spend it.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Raineh Daze on July 27, 2013, 10:11:06 PM
True, true.

I'm worried Alexia may be a bit too talkative. :S
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Kuroimaken on July 28, 2013, 01:51:05 AM
I don't think that's a problem, really.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Raineh Daze on August 08, 2013, 03:14:46 PM
I suspect many, many hide checks.

So, the map's on human scale, right?
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: oslecamo on August 08, 2013, 04:35:53 PM
Yes, bioplant map on scale. Everything around is a featurless plain of grass and flowers.

Also as a reminder, it's suposed to be a fully automated facility.

In this place and era, that means self-repair systems and maintenance microbots. So as far as you can tell, it's working normally.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Raineh Daze on August 08, 2013, 04:42:20 PM
I do believe that we should work out what we're doing OOC rather than taking the time IC. I'd say take a right when going inside, try and get all the stuff on that side, then go through the other if we're not all, y'know, dead or incapable after.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Nanshork on August 08, 2013, 05:03:52 PM
Nice to see you're back Os.

Also I don't have an opinion about what we do.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Raineh Daze on August 08, 2013, 05:08:33 PM
Nice to see you're back Os.

Also I don't have an opinion about what we do.

Eh, I just don't want to amble blindly around inside a building we have a map for. :D
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Kuroimaken on August 08, 2013, 05:15:31 PM
Yes, bioplant map on scale. Everything around is a featurless plain of grass and flowers.

Also as a reminder, it's suposed to be a fully automated facility.

In this place and era, that means self-repair systems and maintenance microbots. So as far as you can tell, it's working normally.

Except for the plumes of smoke that indicate the robots' priorities have shifted from "facility repair" to "something something something dark side".

I say it's a computer virus.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Raineh Daze on August 08, 2013, 05:20:43 PM
Yes, bioplant map on scale. Everything around is a featurless plain of grass and flowers.

Also as a reminder, it's suposed to be a fully automated facility.

In this place and era, that means self-repair systems and maintenance microbots. So as far as you can tell, it's working normally.

Except for the plumes of smoke that indicate the robots' priorities have shifted from "facility repair" to "something something something dark side".

I say it's a computer virus.

I say it's a hacker. :p
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Kuroimaken on August 08, 2013, 05:25:38 PM
If it is, the hacker is Dark Falz.

No fair, Os. We haven't even been through the caves area yet.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Raineh Daze on August 08, 2013, 05:30:28 PM
If it is, the hacker is Dark Falz.

No fair, Os. We haven't even been through the caves area yet.

That's not a big problem; we're not fighting Dark Falz itself yet. :D
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Kuroimaken on August 08, 2013, 05:44:43 PM
Hint: we'll need protection against positive energy.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Raineh Daze on August 08, 2013, 05:52:18 PM
Hint: we'll need protection against positive energy.

Won't we need protection against negative energy, too? I could swear it has both.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Kuroimaken on August 08, 2013, 05:57:55 PM
Not really.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Concerned Ninja Citizen on August 08, 2013, 06:12:07 PM
No clear opinion on our way forward from here, but anyone who's worried about their ability to hit and/or deal damage in non mecha combat should get flasks of oil inflammable propellant mixture from Vail. Toss it at enemies he has set on fire for decent damage off a touch attack.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Elevevated Beat on August 11, 2013, 06:36:46 AM
So who has two thumbs and is happy he hasn't really missed much? Moi.

I've been away, still am, in Indonesia for the past couple of weeks. Kinda shit myself when I realised that I wouldn't have access to internet for most of it. But it's all good now ^.^ Nearly back, and I should have access for the rest of the trip.
Apologies for no heads up :(  It kinda snuck up on me and I didn't realise how out of the way some of these places were. Or that internet cafe's aren't really a thing here =/


As to the current dilemma. I have no qualms with how we proceed. Figured Cash and Shatter could sneak it out in front.

Also, Os. Cashile is a dude :P
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Kuroimaken on August 11, 2013, 11:50:33 AM
Who's our resident trap-disarmer?
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Elevevated Beat on August 15, 2013, 02:01:52 AM
Not me, I'm afraid. I have the ability to search, but not spot... or is it the other way round? In any case, secret stuff like traps and doors to treasure isn't my forte.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Nanshork on August 15, 2013, 09:50:40 AM
Not me either.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Raineh Daze on August 15, 2013, 10:03:06 AM
We don't have anyone with Disable Device.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Kuroimaken on August 15, 2013, 10:13:24 AM
Awww excrementelongatedpiecesofwood.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Concerned Ninja Citizen on August 19, 2013, 08:30:48 PM
oops, wrong thread
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: oslecamo on August 21, 2013, 05:04:26 PM
Ok, checking the IC thread you seem to want to get the Illustrous as close to the entrance as possible and you walk right in if nothing looks suspicious. Will update tommorrow with a bit of luck.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: oslecamo on August 29, 2013, 05:28:46 AM
Will update this later today with a bit of luck.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Kuroimaken on August 30, 2013, 07:13:48 PM
Make that SHHHLUUUUUUUUUUCK.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Raineh Daze on August 30, 2013, 07:15:16 PM
Everyone remember the morale bonus, okay? XD
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Elevevated Beat on September 01, 2013, 10:28:39 AM
Hey Osle do I not get my Dex bonus to damage? (Assuming that +1 was for Point Blank Shot)
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Clanjos on September 03, 2013, 09:56:30 AM
Sorry I haven't posted, my grandfather recently passed away. The funeral was Sunday.

I'll get something up sometime soon though.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Kuroimaken on September 03, 2013, 03:41:33 PM
Sorry to hear about it Clanjos.  :-\
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Scout89 on September 03, 2013, 06:27:59 PM
My condolencies, Clanjos!
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Elevevated Beat on September 03, 2013, 07:22:23 PM
I'm sorry for your loss :hug
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: oslecamo on September 06, 2013, 09:21:56 PM
My condolences as well.

Hey Osle do I not get my Dex bonus to damage? (Assuming that +1 was for Point Blank Shot)
You have any special ability for that? Regular bows/guns don't get Dex bonus to damage rolls in D&D.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Elevevated Beat on September 07, 2013, 04:09:35 AM
My condolences as well.

Hey Osle do I not get my Dex bonus to damage? (Assuming that +1 was for Point Blank Shot)
You have any special ability for that? Regular bows/guns don't get Dex bonus to damage rolls in D&D.

No, no I do not. Forgive me, I was clearly getting mixed up :banghead
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Elevevated Beat on September 13, 2013, 03:56:04 AM
Anyone object to doing the long about way to the central control room? (IE following Shatterscale) Just eyeballing it, it's not really that much further along. We could catch the ceiling blob on the left side, kill it, then make it round to the right side one and not be far behind (maybe even cut it off depending on our speed).

This is assuming we want to do a quick sweep and turn it all off before hobo looting the place (or will it explode? duh duh duhhhh)
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Raineh Daze on September 13, 2013, 05:43:18 AM
I object to a long route.

But all I'm doing is playing music the whole time, so why should I have much to say? :p
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Scout89 on September 13, 2013, 07:36:20 AM
I take it the last enemy is dead. I need a confirmation so I don't attack a dead target or just let it bite my ass.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Kuroimaken on September 13, 2013, 11:15:24 AM
Anyone object to doing the long about way to the central control room? (IE following Shatterscale) Just eyeballing it, it's not really that much further along. We could catch the ceiling blob on the left side, kill it, then make it round to the right side one and not be far behind (maybe even cut it off depending on our speed).

This is assuming we want to do a quick sweep and turn it all off before hobo looting the place (or will it explode? duh duh duhhhh)

I don't object, we just gotta watch out for nasty surprises along the way. Those things were created inside the place, so it should be no surprise we find a few more lurking in siderooms and stuff.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Clanjos on September 15, 2013, 07:34:42 PM
Right, so priorities for alchemical item production after the mission:

#1: Healing Salve and Bitterleaf Oil.
#2: Shapesand. Easy enough to refluff as a a sort of nanobot-based omnitool.
#3: Stuff to resist poison.

Anything to add?
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Raineh Daze on September 15, 2013, 07:53:14 PM
Nope.

... though I'm fairly certain we need to get some healing wands sooner or later. XD
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: oslecamo on September 17, 2013, 01:24:36 PM
Last warning before I update this tommorrow.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Scout89 on September 17, 2013, 04:54:03 PM
I take it the last enemy is dead. I need a confirmation so I don't attack a dead target or just let it bite my ass.

I need the confirmation of the above post before I can write anything.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: oslecamo on September 17, 2013, 04:59:33 PM
Sorry for missing that, yes is is dead.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: oslecamo on September 30, 2013, 02:32:23 PM
Last call before I update tommorrow.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: oslecamo on October 01, 2013, 07:14:23 AM
Updating the turn, and two things for you to take in mind:

Alexia's Bardic music-Half of you aren't adding the bonus to attack and damage. Trust me, it makes a difference.

Entangled-Gives a -2 penalty on attack rolls.

So far I've been double checking everybody's character sheets to see if you're taking account those bonus/penalties. Next round I'll just check the penalties.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Kuroimaken on October 01, 2013, 08:40:13 AM
Yep, definitely forgot about the entangled penalty. Thanks for the catch.

EDIT: Also, Osle? Tit tail.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Nanshork on October 01, 2013, 10:22:08 AM
I completely forgot that there was Bardic Music going on.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Kuroimaken on October 01, 2013, 11:03:59 AM
Quick, somebody reduce that thing's AC to 9 somehow!  :P
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: oslecamo on October 01, 2013, 11:32:53 AM
I believe it's pretty clear by now for your characters that those biomonster spawns have pretty low HP, why do you keep using power attack on them? :psyduck
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Kuroimaken on October 01, 2013, 12:04:38 PM
It wasn't really that clear to me.

And with my current rolls it's not like it mattered much.  :P

If I could just get past that entangle I might use my built-in Rambo Gun.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Scout89 on October 01, 2013, 05:34:38 PM
@oslecamo: The web is still on Bagra damaging and poisoning him? But he spent a turn (http://www.minmaxboards.com/index.php?topic=9918.msg191747#msg191747) removing it with his sword.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: oslecamo on October 01, 2013, 06:17:46 PM
The web isn't poisoning you (the Hit Tails are), but if you had sucessfully cut it, then that last Hit Tail missed you, so you don't take damage or have to worry about poison this turn. Sorry for having missed that.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Elevevated Beat on October 03, 2013, 10:40:21 AM
Hooray, I'm back. For some reason I haven't been able to access minmaxboards  :???  Very strange. So apologies for being missing.

In any case, Osle, did I learn anything from the Knowledge: Nature check of 19 (http://www.minmaxboards.com/index.php?topic=10048.msg188388#msg188388) I rolled? I didn't see anything in any of the threads.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: oslecamo on October 03, 2013, 02:57:05 PM
Oh, sorry, completely missed that

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Elevevated Beat on October 05, 2013, 02:01:18 PM
No wuckers. Thank you :)
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: oslecamo on October 09, 2013, 03:46:52 PM
Will update this tommorrow. I know that at least Nanshork is been around the forums lately, but he hasn't acted this turn yet.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Nanshork on October 09, 2013, 04:48:59 PM
Wait what?  I thought I did.  Fixing that now.

Edit: Looks like I took the damage and then got pulled away before acting.  I really need to stop looking at game threads while at work...yes I'm currently at work...
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: oslecamo on October 10, 2013, 04:18:58 PM
Ups wrong thread.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Raineh Daze on October 10, 2013, 04:51:49 PM
Are we supposed to have any chance at all? :/
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: oslecamo on October 10, 2013, 04:58:07 PM
Well, I was expecting Vail to be burning piled monsters up in the previous rounds, and Antares to don't be power attacking when his chainsword auto-kills those bugs even if he rolls just 1s for damage.

But even then you're managing to kill them faster than they're spawning. 6 bugs last turn, 5 now, and that's with two players and one allied NPC missing.

EDIT: Anyway you really shouldn't be staying on the same place. Those supplies aren't marked down for nothing.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Kuroimaken on October 11, 2013, 12:37:33 AM
We're kinda tied to the ground here. I am, at least.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Kuroimaken on October 11, 2013, 12:39:12 AM
Question.

If I pull the machinegun out, do I get to shoot at more than one target at a time?
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: oslecamo on October 11, 2013, 04:56:07 AM
We're kinda tied to the ground here. I am, at least.
Quote from: entangled condition
The character is ensnared. Being entangled impedes movement, but does not entirely prevent it unless the bonds are anchored to an immobile object or tethered by an opposing force. An entangled creature moves at half speed, cannot run or charge, and takes a -2 penalty on all attack rolls and a -4 penalty to Dexterity.

As I pointed out in the respective IC post (http://www.minmaxboards.com/index.php?topic=9918.msg191982#msg191982), the hit tail silk strings just make you move at half speed, they aren't locking you into place because they aren't anchored to any immobile object.

Question.

If I pull the machinegun out, do I get to shoot at more than one target at a time?

Hmm, I guess tecnically speaking, it's still a mecha-scale weapon because android doesn't say otherwise, and thus you could use the option to shoot everything in a 5-mu square (aka 30 feet square). If the other players don't mind, I'll allow it the way it's written right now.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Kuroimaken on October 11, 2013, 09:59:15 AM
My only real problem is that I have absolute crap for range shooting (between the entangled and Shaky) but hey! Options!
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Raineh Daze on October 11, 2013, 10:35:06 AM
I am fine with the prospect of something human sized having mecha class weaponry. :lmao
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: oslecamo on October 17, 2013, 05:05:03 AM
Last call before I update this tomorrow. If no other actions are posted for him, I'll have Shatterscale strategically whitdraw.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Kuroimaken on November 05, 2013, 05:43:45 PM
I can't shoot to save my life.

Anyone wants dibs on the armor?
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Raineh Daze on November 05, 2013, 05:51:13 PM
I can't actually carry any of it without encumbrance issues, plus, uh, I am really bad in combat so if I stopped playing I'd probably be much less use. >_>;

Shatterscale might be a good choice, given how much he keeps getting hit. :lmao
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Clanjos on November 10, 2013, 07:47:07 AM
Sorry about not posting, more family troubles.

Anyway, I think Shatterscale could stand for a Monomate and the armor. Anyone else want it?

Even if it would be hilarious to see a kobold trying to fire the pistol and getting shot across the room, I'll pass on it.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Kuroimaken on November 10, 2013, 12:51:23 PM
Well, Antares can't really use the gun effectively. He would like the armor, but then again so would anyone else.  :P
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Raineh Daze on November 10, 2013, 01:01:11 PM
Shatterscale seems to get nearly murdered constantly. He seems to need it the most. XD
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Kuroimaken on November 10, 2013, 01:19:30 PM
Precisely. There is a difference between need and want.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: oslecamo on November 12, 2013, 04:21:59 PM
Almost a week has passed. Please decide on a new course from the room where you are, or I'll let the dice decide.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Raineh Daze on November 12, 2013, 04:30:49 PM
Anyone got anything against giving Shatterscale: A) a monomate and B) the armour?

Also, I advocate going to AI-27 and following that because anything else is going the wrong way. >_>;
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Kuroimaken on November 12, 2013, 05:50:29 PM
No objections on either, though if no one objects I'll take a 'mate for myself.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Raineh Daze on November 12, 2013, 06:15:17 PM
We have 10 of them; I don't think being extra-conservative will really be necessary. :p
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Scout89 on November 13, 2013, 06:45:13 AM
Bagra needs healing, so...

The path we take is irrelevant to him.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Nanshork on November 13, 2013, 11:35:02 AM
I'm good with whatever.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: oslecamo on November 18, 2013, 03:24:16 PM
Sooo, enemy right in front of you busy restoring its power, nobody wants to do anything?
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Scout89 on November 18, 2013, 04:25:14 PM
I've rolled Initiative. If no one else does too, I guess Bagra will be fighting it by himself.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Raineh Daze on November 18, 2013, 05:33:29 PM
Question: why have I been placed right at the front? >.<
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: oslecamo on November 18, 2013, 06:06:13 PM
Because you're the current party leader, pointing the way. Feel free to assign somebody else as vanguard. :p

Also, you get a free surprise round since the amoeba is too busy gorging itself with delicious nutrient fluid.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Raineh Daze on November 18, 2013, 06:14:12 PM
I am also a squishy musician. Who let me lead the way? D:
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: oslecamo on November 18, 2013, 06:20:52 PM
At the lack of other sugestions, Patty decided it would look best on film.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Raineh Daze on November 18, 2013, 07:23:51 PM
MUTINOUS LOT. D<
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Kuroimaken on November 18, 2013, 08:42:25 PM
Because you're the current party leader, pointing the way. Feel free to assign somebody else as vanguard. :p

Also, you get a free surprise round since the amoeba is too busy gorging itself with delicious nutrient fluid.

Is said nutrient fluid flammable?

Please say yes.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: oslecamo on November 19, 2013, 02:25:14 PM
Yes.

But the glass domes and rest of the facility aren't, and there's failsafes to stop the fire from spreading too far, otherwise you'll risk burning the whole place down with you inside. :P
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Kuroimaken on November 19, 2013, 03:17:18 PM
OK, new question.

Am I allowed to ignite the nutrient fluid with a barrage of mecha-scale machinegun fire?
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: oslecamo on November 20, 2013, 10:25:38 AM
I'm afraid you'll need something that deals actual fire damage. Nobody brought sci-fi torches or tinder twigs? I'll let you retroactively buy some, it's the kind of thing administration agents are expected to carry around.

Ah, screw that, rule of cool says that yes, you can blow up the unstable liquid by shooting it with a machine gun. This time at least.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: oslecamo on November 29, 2013, 08:11:48 AM
Bump. So, you want for the NPCs to take the shot? I'll assume that yes if nobody says anything otherwise in the next 24 hours.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Kuroimaken on November 29, 2013, 08:38:49 AM
Sorry, sorry! Shit's been crazy.

I'll get right on it.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Raineh Daze on December 01, 2013, 09:32:03 PM
Why is it full of money? @_@
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Kuroimaken on December 01, 2013, 10:15:47 PM
Because money is nigh-indestructible and monsters eat it, apparently.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: oslecamo on December 02, 2013, 05:45:18 AM
Monsters eat humanoids whole, and humanoids usually carry money. The money is indeed nigh-indestructible, thus it acumulates inside the monster's body as it noms more humanoids.

Which would imply you're not the first humanoids to have arrived here since the biomonsters showed up.

Dun-dun-dun!
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Kuroimaken on December 02, 2013, 08:26:09 AM
OR it means that the folks who were here in the first place got eaten.

EDIT: Incidentally, we already knew we weren't the first ones here. SOMEONE had to run into those biomonsters first to give us the intel.  :p
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: oslecamo on December 02, 2013, 08:35:48 AM
The intel you received was on the bigger biomonsters outside and around the facility. What is inside, you're finding out now.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: oslecamo on December 10, 2013, 12:40:00 PM
Sooo, would you like me to turn on auto-walk towards the control panel for your characters? :p
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Nanshork on December 10, 2013, 02:54:24 PM
I guess so!
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Kuroimaken on December 10, 2013, 05:38:05 PM
Works for me, I've done my share of murder for the day.  :cool
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Raineh Daze on December 11, 2013, 04:28:39 AM
Rather than have us all struggle to write something saying we're heading where we need to be headed? XD
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Raineh Daze on December 11, 2013, 05:20:25 PM
Which A is that at the front? @_@
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Kuroimaken on December 11, 2013, 05:37:37 PM
A-hem.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Raineh Daze on December 11, 2013, 05:39:54 PM
Typically, when you'd want the diplomatic captain at the front, she's at the back. :lmao
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: oslecamo on December 11, 2013, 06:24:26 PM
Well, you had requested to be at the back, and you couldn't guess up the next ecounter could be aproached diplomatically. :P
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Raineh Daze on December 11, 2013, 06:44:33 PM
I'll roll diplomacy if you want me to. :p

The only way Alexia's attitudes could get even worse: picking up any of the vows. XD
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: oslecamo on December 11, 2013, 06:51:01 PM
Roll diplomacy yes please. Other people are free to Aid Another.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Raineh Daze on December 11, 2013, 07:00:45 PM
Why does this always happen to me? (http://www.minmaxboards.com/index.php?topic=10048.msg206531#msg206531)

... also, using the swift action to shift that +1 Numan boost to Skills, so the result is 15.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Clanjos on December 15, 2013, 08:49:46 AM
Apologies for vanishing- stuff's been hectic here at home.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Raineh Daze on December 16, 2013, 10:22:34 AM
I'm not really sure what to post. This is not the best situation to be stuck for reactions. x_x
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: oslecamo on December 19, 2013, 04:38:29 PM
So, just to make sure, you're saying you want to make another stand against another horde of bugs, after how that last battle went?
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Raineh Daze on December 19, 2013, 04:41:29 PM
This depends.

As captain, do I get veto power over suicidal last stands? Because otherwise I don't think Alexia's likely to succeed at convincing the android to stand down. <.<
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: oslecamo on December 19, 2013, 04:52:43 PM
Well, Antares is a sargeant, so unless he's going for insurbodination, you can override him because of higher rank.

Altough Shatterscale was also voting for "let's loot the place instead", so I guess that's two votes against one as well.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Raineh Daze on December 19, 2013, 05:01:00 PM
Well, Antares is a sargeant, so unless he's going for insurbodination, you can override him because of higher rank.

Altough Shatterscale was also voting for "let's loot the place instead", so I guess that's two votes against one as well.

Well, there's the issue of probably being in different branches, though that actually puts Alexia's rank ~Colonel, going by US stuff (and British, apparently)
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Kuroimaken on December 19, 2013, 11:59:23 PM
Probably best to not take the whole rank thing too seriously.

And Antares mentioned that as a joke. White DOES have a lot to answer for.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Raineh Daze on December 20, 2013, 06:17:11 AM
Not given the state of the planet, really. Mostly uninhabited anyway, aside from military installations? And already making monsters?
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: oslecamo on December 20, 2013, 09:02:04 PM
Good point, added something about that on the fluff section.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Raineh Daze on January 05, 2014, 07:44:10 PM
I, for one, am glad that I don't have exams this month.

... or next month when I'd actually go back.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Kuroimaken on January 05, 2014, 09:43:34 PM
Dibs on AF-22.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Raineh Daze on January 05, 2014, 09:56:04 PM
AF-20. XD
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Kuroimaken on January 05, 2014, 10:43:56 PM
Also, unless that extends to the carbon vests we found earlier, I won't be changing my current loadout.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Raineh Daze on January 05, 2014, 10:45:49 PM
-Would be carrying too much stuff if I did put one on. :rolleyes.-
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Nanshork on January 06, 2014, 10:43:03 AM
AG-22.

I'm kind of feeling eh about this game though.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Clanjos on January 25, 2014, 01:45:48 PM
Been going through weird stuff with the family, but it's mostly straightened out.

I'll take AG-21, and will update the CS with the shiny new toys.

EDIT: If nobody wants the slasher, I'll give whoever wants it the Silent Shot.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Kuroimaken on January 25, 2014, 10:00:01 PM
I can't hit the broad side of a barn with it or I'd take it.

I get the feeling either would be a good choice for a non-frontliner.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Raineh Daze on January 25, 2014, 10:00:47 PM
I am beyond useless at actual combat... :lmao
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: oslecamo on January 26, 2014, 07:31:21 PM
AG-22.

I'm kind of feeling eh about this game though.

Anything I can do to help with that? I know the updates have really slowed down because of me, but I'll have at least another week of busy RL before I can be more active.

One idea I was thinking around was that once you exit this facility, you could earn some 2-4 levels at once, because 1st level characters are kinda frail and limited, even with gestalt.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Raineh Daze on January 26, 2014, 07:51:52 PM
... you mean I'd get to sing more than once a day? :O
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Nanshork on January 26, 2014, 09:32:46 PM
AG-22.

I'm kind of feeling eh about this game though.

Anything I can do to help with that? I know the updates have really slowed down because of me, but I'll have at least another week of busy RL before I can be more active.

One idea I was thinking around was that once you exit this facility, you could earn some 2-4 levels at once, because 1st level characters are kinda frail and limited, even with gestalt.

It is more that I got excited about playing another game of yours without thinking about the fact that I don't know anything about the source material and don't really care about mechas.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Kuroimaken on January 26, 2014, 09:47:33 PM
Can I fire off my built-in minigun at point-blank range so Mr. Big Bug learns never to fuck around with an android again?
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: oslecamo on January 27, 2014, 06:59:52 PM
Sure, I'll let it count as  a natural weapon for grapple purposes.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Kuroimaken on January 27, 2014, 07:07:56 PM
So no AoO? Nice!

I hope he doesn't bleed acid.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Clanjos on February 12, 2014, 12:52:42 PM
Attack Roll- not sure about penalties, firing at a grappling target, but target is using Reach to grapple.
Rolled 1d20+3 : 19 + 3, total 22


Attack Damage: Unsure about Sneak Attack in this scenario.
Rolled 1d6 : 2, total 2
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Clanjos on February 12, 2014, 01:30:20 PM
For clarification: the rolling thread was being REALLY WEIRD and wouldn't take my post.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: oslecamo on February 14, 2014, 09:09:53 AM
Well, if Raineh doesn't say otherwise, I'll assume the captain keeps singing and update tommorrow.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Raineh Daze on February 14, 2014, 09:17:17 AM
Actually, I don't think I am singing, because I had to stop to talk. >_>;

It's just that I have absolutely crap attack values and my hands full with the map. -_-'
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Raineh Daze on February 16, 2014, 06:30:23 PM
What was I doing with Alexia... hmm.

Still far too low a level for picking up Words of Creation, so that's not it. XD

Tempted to pick up Funnels, since they'd at least mean I'm consistently damaging things and I don't have any other use for a swift action.

Ah! Born to Fight and... something.

EDIT: Er, Os, I just noticed something. At level 2, the only Spirit I can take (and use) is Accel, and I'm not sure if I can take something that I couldn't use. (Also... kind of can't afford to use any of the Ship Captain Spirits. Somehow, I'm not sure that a choice of Snipe, Alert, and Accel is in my best interests. @_@). And I don't think it's even possible to get Enable and Disturbance unless you can take them when they're unusable.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: oslecamo on February 16, 2014, 08:58:39 PM
That's for what I created the feat that increases your max Spirit points.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Raineh Daze on February 16, 2014, 09:02:02 PM
That's for what I created the feat that increases your max Spirit points.

... so that a Ship Captain is forced to spend a feat to access any Spirit that would even be the slightest bit helpful before level five (I think)? It's not as if a one-round speed boost is going to help something that has, as its main armament, missiles and a giant beam cannon.

Also doesn't answer the question about whether it can be taken when it wouldn't be useful.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: oslecamo on February 16, 2014, 09:15:53 PM
Alert is another cheap Spirit, useful for everybody.

And yes, you can pick a spirit that it's too expensive for you to use when you gain it.
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Raineh Daze on February 16, 2014, 09:30:27 PM
Alert is another cheap Spirit, useful for everybody.

And yes, you can pick a spirit that it's too expensive for you to use when you gain it.

So. a choice of Alert or Snipe. Not... exactly a hard choice.

Even though I get the feeling the 'restore Xd6 ally HP' would be more beneficial, I have exactly one too few Spirit for it and I also get the feeling I should pick up the medical facility stuff. XD
Title: Re: Low-End OOC thread.
Post by: Nanshork on February 18, 2014, 06:30:56 PM
Sorry about dropping out.  If this game somehow stops having mechas, let me know. :p