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[D&D 3.5] Interest Check: Gishes Galore
« on: November 17, 2011, 08:47:22 PM »
DISCLAIMER: I am not looking to DM this concept.  I'm just a player.

For a while now, I've thought about how a party of gishes - not ultra-optimized, CL 30+ at 20th level gishes, mind, but those who actually might be missing a few caster levels - would work.  They're consistently among the most popular concepts in board discussions around D&D fora, and have long been a personal favorite.

I'd like to see how such a group would work as a unit against normal-to-hard encounters, from somewhere in the ECL 2 - 4 range to (hopefully) up to the mid-teens.

Would this be of interest to others here?  Is there someone who'd be willing to DM it?  Thanks for reading.
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Re: [D&D 3.5] Interest Check: Gishes Galore
« Reply #1 on: November 17, 2011, 10:34:38 PM »
If this gets somewhere, I call dibs on a Swiftblade!
I don't care if I'm the only one or if the entire party is Swiftblades, I want one!

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Re: [D&D 3.5] Interest Check: Gishes Galore
« Reply #2 on: November 17, 2011, 10:39:23 PM »
I'd be primarily interested in a JPM, personally.
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Re: [D&D 3.5] Interest Check: Gishes Galore
« Reply #3 on: November 17, 2011, 10:44:15 PM »
I'm aching for a binder; I hear they can gish fairly well. So let's see.
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Re: [D&D 3.5] Interest Check: Gishes Galore
« Reply #4 on: November 17, 2011, 11:42:45 PM »
I'm too busy to do so myself, but I'd love if someone would test out a Ritual Warrior for me.
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Re: [D&D 3.5] Interest Check: Gishes Galore
« Reply #5 on: November 18, 2011, 12:01:35 AM »
I'm too busy to do so myself, but I'd love if someone would test out a Ritual Warrior for me.

If homebrew's in, I'll go for it. Otherwise, something psionic, maybe?

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Re: [D&D 3.5] Interest Check: Gishes Galore
« Reply #6 on: November 18, 2011, 12:25:52 AM »
Pray tell, who will DM?
I would like to try the Paladin/Sorcerer/Abjurant Champiion mix sometime!
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Re: [D&D 3.5] Interest Check: Gishes Galore
« Reply #7 on: November 18, 2011, 01:02:04 AM »
I'd like to go for a more rogue-ish gish. Something like spellthief/wizard/unseen seer/maybe incantatrix if it's not too strong for the group.

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Re: [D&D 3.5] Interest Check: Gishes Galore
« Reply #8 on: November 18, 2011, 01:56:08 AM »
This could be interesting, not sure what I'd play though.

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Re: [D&D 3.5] Interest Check: Gishes Galore
« Reply #9 on: November 18, 2011, 05:06:30 AM »
This could be interresting.  I'd be interested in a bardic gish, or a psionic one using the Voce warrior in Hyperconscious. Killing through voice basically.
both should be dragonblooded, for a very obvious reason ...

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Re: [D&D 3.5] Interest Check: Gishes Galore
« Reply #10 on: November 18, 2011, 08:52:11 AM »
Personally I have always been interested in what sort of divine gish you could pull off (decent BAB without needing to rely on spells) or even a dual casting gish.

Divine: Crusader/Cleric/Ruby Knight Vindicator I suppose, more emphasis on the crusader. Could use another divine class (shudenja?)
Dual: something with fochlucan lyrist...
Bard 1/Druid 4/Green Whisperer 3/Spelldancer 2/Fochlucan Lyrist 10?
Bard 7/Master Thrower 2/Druid 1/Sublime Chord 2/Fochlucan Lyrist 8

The problem that is going to come up is how difficult it is to make a gish at ECL 2-4, most need their PRCs to be any good. You don't usually see effective Gish characters till level 10 or so.


Possibly also a monk-gish
Wizard 3/Monk 2/Enlightened fist 9/Abjurant Champion 5/Dragon Slayer 1
Problem is you only get to caster level 16 by the end, not what I really aim for from a gish.

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Re: [D&D 3.5] Interest Check: Gishes Galore
« Reply #11 on: November 18, 2011, 09:52:05 AM »
No no, stop tempting me into more games.  This certainly would be a wild ride of a game.

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Re: [D&D 3.5] Interest Check: Gishes Galore
« Reply #12 on: November 19, 2011, 02:50:46 AM »
Another 'gish' idea I've been toying with is monk/ardent/imithid slayer or sanctified mind, using Ardent's weird method of determining powers known to stay at max level powers.

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Re: [D&D 3.5] Interest Check: Gishes Galore
« Reply #13 on: November 19, 2011, 02:55:18 PM »
I'd be interested in something like this!
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Re: [D&D 3.5] Interest Check: Gishes Galore
« Reply #14 on: November 19, 2011, 04:40:08 PM »
Still no DMs, of course.  :eh
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Re: [D&D 3.5] Interest Check: Gishes Galore
« Reply #15 on: November 22, 2011, 08:40:10 AM »
So, I don't suppose I could cajole, beg, etc. one of those posting interest to consider DMing? 
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Re: [D&D 3.5] Interest Check: Gishes Galore
« Reply #16 on: November 22, 2011, 02:27:13 PM »
This is of course the issue with making concepts you arent willing to DM yourself.

I could do some sort of arena but I don't really have the time these days to run a proper campaign.