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Re: The Politics Thread v3
« Reply #140 on: June 24, 2016, 10:16:14 AM »
Nobody likes Farage. Even his own party doesn't like Farage.

The FTSE decided to stop being in freefall, oddly.
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Re: The Politics Thread v3
« Reply #142 on: June 24, 2016, 10:29:54 AM »
Got to love how quick the First Minister was to pretend the 950,000 people in Scotland that voted to leave don't exist and focus on the outcome per region.
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Re: The Politics Thread v3
« Reply #143 on: June 24, 2016, 10:50:33 AM »
I thought, and still tend to think, that this Brexit thing will turn out like early US history.  Where the states at first combined to form the Articles of Confederation, saw it wasn't working, and came up with something better rather than giving up.  A unified Europe just makes too much sense when you have the likes of the US, Russia, and China on the world stage.

Though hopefully, Europe can avoid that thing we did 74 years later ...

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Re: The Politics Thread v3
« Reply #144 on: June 24, 2016, 04:41:53 PM »
US trade with UK is $107 billion (from wtf I found it last night).
US economy is $18,000+ billion (i.e. trillions)

Let's say UK goes into a Great Depression / Russia's end of communism / Venezuela situation
depressing it's economy by 25% (or so).
It's less of a drop for the USA than the usual
margin-of-error for 3month economic projections.
It isn't 2% , it's 1/10th of that.

I think most of the negative trading reporting
is based on the casual Bet (!) the moneyed
made that Brexit wouldn't happen. 
They bet wrong.  Causes lots of unwinding.

Weirdest result so far, the Italian Banks
are down > 20% on the days trading.
What kind of screw-ball leverage did they all do?
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Re: The Politics Thread v3
« Reply #145 on: June 24, 2016, 04:47:05 PM »
It's not the trade that's the issue, it's being a huge financial gateway.
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Re: The Politics Thread v3
« Reply #146 on: June 24, 2016, 09:27:33 PM »
I thought, and still tend to think, that this Brexit thing will turn out like early US history.  Where the states at first combined to form the Articles of Confederation, saw it wasn't working, and came up with something better rather than giving up.  A unified Europe just makes too much sense when you have the likes of the US, Russia, and China on the world stage.

Though hopefully, Europe can avoid that thing we did 74 years later ...

Switzerland is neutral. Switzerland is independent. Switzerland has the globe by its financial balls.

Be smart. Be like Switzerland.
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Re: The Politics Thread v3
« Reply #147 on: June 25, 2016, 03:00:41 PM »
It's not the trade that's the issue, it's being a huge financial gateway.

Agreed.
I was US-o-centric-ing my response (should have said this first) mostly because I don't think outsiders should have a say in Sovereignty issues.
25% of US trade is with EU, and if that's gonna be in frozen + sclerotic + chaos mode for 10 years, yeah it's a problem.


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Re: The Politics Thread v3
« Reply #148 on: June 26, 2016, 12:53:31 AM »
I just had this charming "discussion"

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Re: The Politics Thread v3
« Reply #149 on: June 26, 2016, 01:01:52 AM »
Yer gonna lose more brain cells than it's worth lol.

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Re: The Politics Thread v3
« Reply #150 on: June 26, 2016, 11:12:59 AM »
Question: who is the most cartoonish supervillain in politics or politics adjacent in America?  They have to be very American, or at least viewed that way.  And Trump doesn't count.  he's #1, I'm looking for #2.
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Re: The Politics Thread v3
« Reply #151 on: June 26, 2016, 12:08:26 PM »
Is Hillary too obvious? Fine, the Westborough Baptist Church.
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Re: The Politics Thread v3
« Reply #152 on: June 26, 2016, 12:42:48 PM »
Karl Rove?  He made 'Murican politics extra divisive all for the sake of winning.
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Dick Cheney?  Shot a friend, friend apologized.  Evil cyborg with a robot heart.
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Probably Tricky Dickey.  He's actually been a cartoon super villain.  Howrrroooo!

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Re: The Politics Thread v3
« Reply #153 on: June 26, 2016, 12:52:30 PM »
I was thinking Sarah Palin at first, but then I got to really thinking.  I'm looking for people in the Roger Goodell sort of variety.  Again though, they  have to be actual people, someone who's almost cartoonish, like Trump is.  Goodell is not a politician, but he's politics adjacent.

So an example of not cartoonish would be Cheney, villain, yes.  But not cartoonish.

Rove works for the description, I think, but he wouldn't work for what I'm thinking is going to happen.  Although maybe?  I don't think he'd work, but it's a possibility.
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Re: The Politics Thread v3
« Reply #154 on: June 26, 2016, 01:32:02 PM »
Bill O'Reily?
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Re: The Politics Thread v3
« Reply #155 on: June 26, 2016, 01:59:28 PM »
Hmm, maybe?  But I think he hates Trump so he won't work.

Here's my thinking: Trump is a wrestler.  Like WWE character.  He's still under kayfabe, and he's being the heel in this election.  So he needs to tag team with someone equally cartoonish, that's who his VP pick is going to be.  People say Christie because he got on, but I don't think Trump wants him, he's too insider.  Palin is Palin, so she's a possibility, ESPECIALLY to counter the 'sexism' thing he has going for him.  But it can't be someone so....normal.  And yes I'm saying that about Palin.  No, it has to be someone a WWE writer would write in to the story.  Someone ridiculous, cartoonish, and outlandish.  It has to be someone famous, someone yuge, someone on the big stage.  It has to be legal, so he can't pick Putin, otherwise he absolutely would and you all know it.  Someone equally bombastic and controversial, and universally hated.  That's why I thought Roger Goodell.  Seriously.  But I don't think Goodell would, so Trump won't even ask.  I don't think it will be a politician, but it will be someone in politics.  So one of his business partners, or adversary.

Just trying to think of that most cartoonishly fitting person is difficult.  It can't be someone obscure, but it can't be the most obvious pick (Christie, Palin). It's difficult to do this....
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Re: The Politics Thread v3
« Reply #157 on: June 26, 2016, 07:06:44 PM »
How about this guy? He was even stopped by a real life group of heroes!
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Re: The Politics Thread v3
« Reply #158 on: June 27, 2016, 03:37:52 AM »
I'm not arguing, I'm explaining why I'm right.

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Re: The Politics Thread v3
« Reply #159 on: June 27, 2016, 05:25:13 PM »
how 'bout Erdogan of Turkey
... just made nice nice with both Putin about shooting down the Russian jet in Nov, and Israel the worst of the worst of the worst of (etc, in his own words).  Yet his old ~islamist buddy Gulen is still in exile in Pennsylvania, and the Kurds are still worse than al-Qaeda offshoots.


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