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Re: The Small Rants Thread XII: The Folly of Life
« Reply #420 on: July 09, 2019, 11:39:21 PM »
Pretty upset with how Kaiser is handling mental health services lately. After leaving me hanging for 6+ months last time I needed a therapist (they tried to outsource my therapy and I was told to wait for the 3rd party to assign me someone) they have fucked me over yet again. My therapist quit Kaiser due to excessive red tape making it hard to treat patients, but one of the last things she did was note that my symptoms had been particularly severe in the previous months and I needed a case worker assigned. Kaiser has apparently lost that instruction and I still have no replacement therapist months later.

It really does feel like they are entirely incapable of providing mental health services unless the person is either stable in the first place or dangerous enough to be institutionalized.
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Re: The Small Rants Thread XII: The Folly of Life
« Reply #421 on: July 09, 2019, 11:44:00 PM »
Pretty upset with how Kaiser is handling mental health services lately. After leaving me hanging for 6+ months last time I needed a therapist (they tried to outsource my therapy and I was told to wait for the 3rd party to assign me someone) they have fucked me over yet again. My therapist quit Kaiser due to excessive red tape making it hard to treat patients, but one of the last things she did was note that my symptoms had been particularly severe in the previous months and I needed a case worker assigned. Kaiser has apparently lost that instruction and I still have no replacement therapist months later.

It really does feel like they are entirely incapable of providing mental health services unless the person is either stable in the first place or dangerous enough to be institutionalized.

Sad that in this day and age people still don't realize mental wellbeing is as important or even MORE important than physical health.

If you're not well in the mind, it leads to risk-taking and risk-seeking behavior, bad eating habits, lack of exercise and motivation, trouble sleeping and a host of other detrimental effects to overall health longterm.

Health Insurance probably would end up SAVING money if they increased coverage for mental problems.

It's just dumb. Maybe algorithms haven't advanced enough, they don't see the bigger picture and only advise insurance providers on short term monetar gains...
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Re: The Small Rants Thread XII: The Folly of Life
« Reply #422 on: July 10, 2019, 12:12:35 AM »
I'm quite sure they see the big picture. If you've ever seen the minutes of a shareholder meeting it's pretty clear that they actively encourage NOT helping people get better because sick people are a continual revenue stream.
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Re: The Small Rants Thread XII: The Folly of Life
« Reply #423 on: July 10, 2019, 11:51:01 AM »
I'm quite sure they see the big picture. If you've ever seen the minutes of a shareholder meeting it's pretty clear that they actively encourage NOT helping people get better because sick people are a continual revenue stream.

Insurers don't want sick people, though. I remember reading that the top 1% of sick people are responsible for over 80% of an insurance company's spending... The healthier you are, the more profitable you are for the insurance company, especially if what makes you healthy costs them zero... That's why i don't understand why many people over there have the same experience as you do. Why would insurance companies not cover things that cost less and can prevent bigger spending later? Seems dumb.
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Re: The Small Rants Thread XII: The Folly of Life
« Reply #424 on: July 12, 2019, 02:07:20 AM »
I'm quite sure they see the big picture. If you've ever seen the minutes of a shareholder meeting it's pretty clear that they actively encourage NOT helping people get better because sick people are a continual revenue stream.

Insurers don't want sick people, though. I remember reading that the top 1% of sick people are responsible for over 80% of an insurance company's spending... The healthier you are, the more profitable you are for the insurance company, especially if what makes you healthy costs them zero... That's why i don't understand why many people over there have the same experience as you do. Why would insurance companies not cover things that cost less and can prevent bigger spending later? Seems dumb.

Insurance companies want SCARED people. The medical industry wants sick people. There was even an infamous picture from one of the industry seminars about how curing patients is an unsustainable business model but treating illnesses is printing money.
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