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So a Brazillian prez candidate was stabbed yesterday
« on: September 07, 2018, 02:09:36 PM »
For those of you likely not keeping track, here's the skinny.

Brazil has basically been under the same administration for almost a decade and a half, and while knee deep in shit creek without a paddle, someone thought it would be best to go snorkeling instead. Our latest president was impeached (making it the second impeachment we had in a little under three decades), her predecessor was found guilty in a bunch of administrative malpractice suits (and his party is insisting on putting him up as a candidate for this year's election - straight from jail). There are no big names running (before anyone asks, no, I wasn't allowed to campaign).

So in comes this guy, has been the center of attention from everyone in the last year and a half or so. Says he's going to make it easier for everyone to get a gun, promises to crack down on crime hard. Dude is former military (we had a military dictatorship period from 1964-1985 or so), claims that the best place for any criminal is six feet under. He has a big mouth on him, sure - lots of people draw parallels between him and Trump, mostly on account of their speeches being so inflammatory (he doesn't care for gays, women or what he calls "the left wing's agenda"). Guy's name is Bolsonaro.

He was stabbed yesterday, allegedly by some left-wing conspiracy theorist nut. There is still a debate going on over how much of that is true since video clips at the moment of the attack show no immediate blood loss (though ME reports say he's lost a shitton of blood internally, plus had his guts lacerated in like three different spots and will have to shit through a bag for a month or so).

Figured I'd post something about it, ask you guys what you think or what you've heard about it if anything.
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Re: So a Brazillian prez candidate was stabbed yesterday
« Reply #1 on: September 07, 2018, 04:09:56 PM »
The fire at that oldest Museum made front page of nytimes.

Sucks man.
Rough times.

The stabbing will get some attention soon (but competes with hella noise).
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Re: So a Brazillian prez candidate was stabbed yesterday
« Reply #2 on: September 07, 2018, 05:54:39 PM »
The fire at that oldest Museum made front page of nytimes.

Sucks man.
Rough times.

The stabbing will get some attention soon (but competes with hella noise).
Ouch man. Don't even remind me. Not only did we lose a whole goddamn chunk of Latin-American history there, it is fucking testament to the sheer incompetence of our administrations.
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Re: So a Brazillian prez candidate was stabbed yesterday
« Reply #3 on: September 07, 2018, 05:59:45 PM »
Been watching the election run up with some trepidation for Brazil. Just feels like whatever happens the end result won't be good for the people.

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Re: So a Brazillian prez candidate was stabbed yesterday
« Reply #4 on: September 07, 2018, 06:12:03 PM »
It never really is.

Unfortunately, we've run with "let's vote for the least terrible candidate" for so long now we can't even figure out how to get away from this mess.
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Re: So a Brazillian prez candidate was stabbed yesterday
« Reply #5 on: September 07, 2018, 06:28:21 PM »
Unfortunately, we've run with "let's vote for the least terrible candidate" for so long now we can't even figure out how to get away from this mess.
If it makes you feel better most of us do the same thing over here.
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Re: So a Brazillian prez candidate was stabbed yesterday
« Reply #6 on: September 10, 2018, 06:42:26 PM »
Unfortunately leadership assassination attempts are not rare, et tu bruto?

Nor military interventions into government.
However, If this particular candidate runs legally and
governs legally AND leaves legally (the tricky part) ...
he could maybe sorta possibly hopefully? be remembered
say like the USA's Ulysses S Grant or Dwight Eisenhower.
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Re: So a Brazillian prez candidate was stabbed yesterday
« Reply #7 on: September 10, 2018, 07:11:49 PM »
Yeah, I'm thinking this latest attempt will only serve to catapult his image further. Even when he won't say anything, people won't stop talking about him, so...
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Re: So a Brazillian prez candidate was stabbed yesterday
« Reply #8 on: October 10, 2018, 04:36:33 PM »
So Bolsonaro is in the run-off , versus who?
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Re: So a Brazillian prez candidate was stabbed yesterday
« Reply #9 on: October 10, 2018, 05:19:00 PM »
So Bolsonaro is in the run-off , versus who?
He'll be up against Fernando Haddad of the Worker's Party, the party of previous president Lula. The results were 46% to 29%, so either we will see a Le Pen moment where in the second round all voters unite behind the counter candidate to prevent a far right president - but the opposite might also easily happen, as Bolsonaro is just 5% short of the total majority.
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Re: So a Brazillian prez candidate was stabbed yesterday
« Reply #10 on: October 10, 2018, 10:01:00 PM »
So Bolsonaro is in the run-off , versus who?
He'll be up against Fernando Haddad of the Worker's Party, the party of previous president Lula. The results were 46% to 29%, so either we will see a Le Pen moment where in the second round all voters unite behind the counter candidate to prevent a far right president - but the opposite might also easily happen, as Bolsonaro is just 5% short of the total majority.

I think we may be headed towards a dictatorship either way.

The Worker's Party (PT for short here) has been in power for years and there's massive talk about ballot tampering (around here we use an electronic system. Results come in real fast, but it does not allow for a recount, and those devices didn't make it through a world-renowned hacker convention last year in an under 24h test). Bolsonaro has already stated he will not take a defeat lying down. If he wins, we can expect anything from strikes to riots in the streets, giving him the perfect excuse to lay some martial law. If he doesn't, he will likely claim the ballots have been tampered with and do it anyway.

I see a lot of people voting for Haddad out of fear for what may happen if Bolsonaro wins. But the thing is - nothing they fear would happen actually REQUIRES him to be president. He's got the connections to start a coup of his own regardless. What people need here is a scarecrow. With Lula arrested, suddenly they seem to have forgotten his whole goddamn party was in on some of the biggest corruption scams in Brazillian history. And that was like two, three years ago. They hate the guy so much they completely forgot they had the hots for ousting our current, finishing-his-term prez two months ago.
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Re: So a Brazillian prez candidate was stabbed yesterday
« Reply #11 on: October 16, 2018, 09:40:22 PM »
TBH i just wished someone would get all our politicians inside MaracanĂ£ and give them all a sword and shield and let them have it and make last man standing president.

It doesn't matter anyway, it'd just be more entertaining that way i suppose.
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Re: So a Brazillian prez candidate was stabbed yesterday
« Reply #12 on: October 17, 2018, 12:05:27 AM »
TBH i just wished someone would get all our politicians inside MaracanĂ£ and give them all a sword and shield and let them have it and make last man standing president.

It doesn't matter anyway, it'd just be more entertaining that way i suppose.
Someone would be sure to smuggle in a gun.
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