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Re: Fun Pathfinds
« Reply #100 on: February 01, 2019, 04:24:37 PM »
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Re: Fun Pathfinds
« Reply #101 on: February 01, 2019, 07:21:00 PM »
Also from Wilderness Origins, Arcane Amplifier familiar archetype is likely worth a look, since free metamagic pretty much always is nifty. The cost is your familiar having to deliver it (which means it only works on touch spells). Extend is the easiest to make this work on, as there plenty of buffs that work on creature touched. Empower and Maximize likely have some use and  +2 Heighten might as well.

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Re: Fun Pathfinds
« Reply #102 on: February 04, 2019, 08:01:47 PM »
Great way for a free way to get a heightened continual flame

Paragon surge w Eldritch Heritage or Familiar Bond tree gets a temp version
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Re: Fun Pathfinds
« Reply #103 on: February 06, 2019, 03:43:06 AM »
Both have prerequisite feats that make it work poorly for Paragon Surge (though Iron Will isn't the worst feat to be stuck with). Not that it matters, since changing archetype on a familiar is as simple as getting a new familiar. 1 week without a familiar and 200 GP per Wizard level to switch to it (expensive, but cheaper than the alternatives and not too huge a cost since you can only get the heighten ability at level 7). The cost to switch back can be avoided by taking Improved Familiar and getting your new one for free.
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Re: Fun Pathfinds
« Reply #104 on: February 06, 2019, 04:55:10 AM »
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you can get a 6th-level heightened continual flame for free

Human Wizard 3
1 Additional Traits (metamagic cheese x2)
B Heighten Spell
3 Improved Familiar
5 Stylized Spell

toss in Stylized Spell for some really weird cheese (7th-level? heightened stylized continual flame using a 3rd-level slot). your continual flame looks like something else, yet still just is a light bulb.
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Re: Fun Pathfinds
« Reply #105 on: February 08, 2019, 08:56:44 PM »
Both have prerequisite feats that make it work poorly for Paragon Surge (though Iron Will isn't the worst feat to be stuck with). Not that it matters, since changing archetype on a familiar is as simple as getting a new familiar. 1 week without a familiar and 200 GP per Wizard level to switch to it (expensive, but cheaper than the alternatives and not too huge a cost since you can only get the heighten ability at level 7). The cost to switch back can be avoided by taking Improved Familiar and getting your new one for free.
I don't see anything stopping you from getting a temp Arcane Amplifier familiar with Blood Sentinel.

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Re: Fun Pathfinds
« Reply #106 on: February 08, 2019, 09:25:09 PM »
Nice!
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Re: Fun Pathfinds
« Reply #107 on: Today at 06:46:35 PM »
Fleeting Spell + Blood Sentinel is a good way to avoid that pesky Int drain triggering
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