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Re: PhaedrusXY's Playground
« Reply #40 on: September 09, 2012, 04:13:07 PM »
minor tangent ...

You ever seen this book?  The graphic looks similar to your avatar.
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Re: PhaedrusXY's Playground
« Reply #41 on: September 09, 2012, 08:57:21 PM »
Wow, that sounds like an awesome book! I'm a Phillip K. Dick fan, and find the idea that google built an AI android of him hilarious.

And if I could make a stylized image of my face like that, I'd use that as my avatar. :P I got mine from Ray Kurzweil's website.
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Re: PhaedrusXY's Playground
« Reply #42 on: September 12, 2012, 08:01:31 PM »
Heh ... just so long as that doesn't happen to my kitty avatar  ;)


Kurzweil's Singularity book sits in the astrology and
psychic book section of my local library.  Ugghhh.
They're gonna be a little surprised by the future.

 
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Re: PhaedrusXY's Playground
« Reply #43 on: September 13, 2012, 10:29:29 AM »
Kurzweil's Singularity book sits in the astrology and
psychic book section of my local library.  Ugghhh.
They're gonna be a little surprised by the future.
Ugh. That should have been in the SciFi section, not astrology and psychics.

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Re: PhaedrusXY's Playground
« Reply #44 on: September 13, 2012, 10:36:57 AM »
Kurzweil's Singularity book sits in the astrology and
psychic book section of my local library.  Ugghhh.
They're gonna be a little surprised by the future.
Ugh. That should have been in the SciFi section, not astrology and psychics.
No! It should have been in the science textbooks! :p

(J/K. He gets pretty out there with some of his stuff, like believing that soon we'll have AIs so omniscient that they'll be able to reconstruct the minds of dead people... )
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Re: PhaedrusXY's Playground
« Reply #45 on: September 13, 2012, 10:47:59 AM »
Kurzweil's Singularity book sits in the astrology and
psychic book section of my local library.  Ugghhh.
They're gonna be a little surprised by the future.
Ugh. That should have been in the SciFi section, not astrology and psychics.
No! It should have been in the science textbooks! :p

(J/K. He gets pretty out there with some of his stuff, like believing that soon we'll have AIs so omniscient that they'll be able to reconstruct the minds of dead people...
So AIs with five levels of cleric? :p
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Re: PhaedrusXY's Playground
« Reply #46 on: September 13, 2012, 10:48:54 AM »
Kurzweil's Singularity book sits in the astrology and
psychic book section of my local library.  Ugghhh.
They're gonna be a little surprised by the future.
Ugh. That should have been in the SciFi section, not astrology and psychics.
No! It should have been in the science textbooks! :p

(J/K. He gets pretty out there with some of his stuff, like believing that soon we'll have AIs so omniscient that they'll be able to reconstruct the minds of dead people...
So AIs with five levels of cleric? :p
You mean 9, right?  Or are these Ur-Priest AIs? :D
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Re: PhaedrusXY's Playground
« Reply #47 on: September 13, 2012, 10:49:50 AM »
Kurzweil's Singularity book sits in the astrology and
psychic book section of my local library.  Ugghhh.
They're gonna be a little surprised by the future.
Ugh. That should have been in the SciFi section, not astrology and psychics.
No! It should have been in the science textbooks! :p

(J/K. He gets pretty out there with some of his stuff, like believing that soon we'll have AIs so omniscient that they'll be able to reconstruct the minds of dead people...
So AIs with five levels of cleric? :p
You mean 9, right?  :D
Oh, that sort of reconstruction. I was thinking speak with dead.
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Re: PhaedrusXY's Playground
« Reply #48 on: September 13, 2012, 07:44:12 PM »
Yeah it's funny what a casual reader will not pick up
from material like that ... like what kind of book it is.

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works out to about 2 megabytes of programming.
Or maybe it's around 5 mb.
Either way, a pocket calculator does long division
soo ooo ooo ooo ooo much faster than the brain.
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Re: PhaedrusXY's Playground
« Reply #49 on: September 13, 2012, 07:47:38 PM »

(J/K. He gets pretty out there with some of his stuff, like believing that soon we'll have AIs so omniscient that they'll be able to reconstruct the minds of dead people...
So AIs with five levels of cleric? :p
You mean 9, right?  :D
Oh, that sort of reconstruction. I was thinking speak with dead.
Literally?
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« Reply #50 on: September 14, 2012, 01:07:59 PM »
Oh, that sort of reconstruction. I was thinking speak with dead.

Any sufficiently advanced science...

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Re: PhaedrusXY's Playground
« Reply #51 on: September 14, 2012, 01:21:55 PM »
Kurzweil's Singularity book sits in the astrology and
psychic book section of my local library.  Ugghhh.
They're gonna be a little surprised by the future.
Ugh. That should have been in the SciFi section, not astrology and psychics.
No! It should have been in the science textbooks! :p

(J/K. He gets pretty out there with some of his stuff, like believing that soon we'll have AIs so omniscient that they'll be able to reconstruct the minds of dead people...
So AIs with five levels of cleric? :p
You mean 9, right?  :D
Oh, that sort of reconstruction. I was thinking speak with dead.
In the book he specifically says he thinks that there will be AIs that are sooooooo smart that they'll be able to create a replica of his Dad (who has been dead for 20 years) that is so much like the original that even he (Kurzweil, not the Dad.... presumably he'll know he isn't "real"... /shrug) can't tell the difference. And they'll do this by compiling information taken from the brains of the living who remember the person to be reconstructed, pictures, etc.

So when he says "Godlike AIs"... he really means it. :P
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Re: PhaedrusXY's Playground
« Reply #52 on: October 11, 2012, 02:54:26 PM »
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Aboleth 2/ Archivist 12/ ? 6

The optimal mix here seems somewhat oddly to be as few aboleth levels as possible, since the class features from Archivist are actually better (unless you plan to be underwater a lot, and/or really love illusions). Deceivingly Innocent Form is pretty much required, again unless it is an underwater/seafaring campaign.

The synergy between Memory of the Eons and Dark Knowledge is obvious. Throwing in Knowledge Devotion and Collector of Stories also seems obvious. What else could our dark friend do? Toss on something that gives Rebuke/Turn Undead and go for DMM is one option, but hardly required. What PrC options are available to gain Rebuke without losing caster levels?

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Re: PhaedrusXY's Playground
« Reply #53 on: October 12, 2012, 01:28:52 AM »
always an interesting read. thanks.
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Re: PhaedrusXY's Playground
« Reply #54 on: October 12, 2012, 03:49:21 PM »
The Keeper of Lost Secrets

Aboleth 2/ Archivist 12/ ? 6

The optimal mix here seems somewhat oddly to be as few aboleth levels as possible, since the class features from Archivist are actually better (unless you plan to be underwater a lot, and/or really love illusions). Deceivingly Innocent Form is pretty much required, again unless it is an underwater/seafaring campaign.

The synergy between Memory of the Eons and Dark Knowledge is obvious. Throwing in Knowledge Devotion and Collector of Stories also seems obvious. What else could our dark friend do? Toss on something that gives Rebuke/Turn Undead and go for DMM is one option, but hardly required. What PrC options are available to gain Rebuke without losing caster levels?

Sacred exorcist is one. It's from complete divine. Gives turn undead at level one and is very easy to get into. I can't see where you need rebuke specifically which is why I'm suggesting it.
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Re: PhaedrusXY's Playground
« Reply #55 on: October 12, 2012, 04:58:30 PM »
I think he said rebuke because the fluff for Aboleths is decidedly on the deep end of the alignment pool, as it were.

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Re: PhaedrusXY's Playground
« Reply #56 on: October 12, 2012, 05:13:49 PM »
I think he said rebuke because the fluff for Aboleths is decidedly on the deep end of the alignment pool, as it were.

Since the character is never going to actually rebuke anything, it takes almost no effort to refluff.
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Re: PhaedrusXY's Playground
« Reply #57 on: October 12, 2012, 05:15:17 PM »
From the Surrealdex:

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grants turn/rebuke undead - anything that grants turning generally stacks
Cleric 1
Paladin 4
Blackguard 3, ecl, command or rebuke only
Sacred Exorcist 1, ecl 8, Complete Divine, turn only
Ur-priest 2, ecl 7, Complete Divine, rebuke only
Divine Mind 4, Complete Divine, class variant (here)
Dread Necromancer 1, base class, Heroes of Horror, rebuke only
Death Delver 1, ecl 6, Heroes of Horror, rebuke only
Chameleon 3, ecl 8, Races of Destiny, see text
Master of Radiance 1, ecl 6, Libris Mortin, turn only - unclear whether you gain turning or if it only stacks
Tenebrous, vestige, ecl 7, Tome of Magic, unlimited use but see text
Knight of the Raven 3, ecl 7, Expedition to Castle Ravenloft
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Soldier of Light 1, ecl 6, Deities and Demigods
Deadgrim 1, ecl 6, Magic of Eberron - unclear whethero you gain turning or if it only stacks
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Re: PhaedrusXY's Playground
« Reply #58 on: October 16, 2012, 02:54:24 PM »
I think he said rebuke because the fluff for Aboleths is decidedly on the deep end of the alignment pool, as it were.

Since the character is never going to actually rebuke anything, it takes almost no effort to refluff.
Character will probably be evil, which IIRC is not allowed with Sacred Exorcist.

Holy crap SirP... that's kind of depressing. So it's nearly impossible to get Rebuke without losing a CL...


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Re: PhaedrusXY's Playground
« Reply #59 on: October 16, 2012, 03:16:50 PM »
Hey, there's one that's not on there -- you can do it with a 12-level dip in Wild Reaper druid!  Rock on.
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