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Alternative Ways to Get Class Skills
« on: April 17, 2013, 09:01:43 PM »
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Re: Alternative Ways to Get Class Skills
« Reply #1 on: May 21, 2013, 06:51:07 PM »
the ever important Cosmopolitan feat from FR allows any skill to be chosen as a class skill for all classes.
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Re: Alternative Ways to Get Class Skills
« Reply #2 on: May 29, 2013, 07:15:32 PM »
Drat!
It's not a Fighter bonus feat.

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Re: Alternative Ways to Get Class Skills
« Reply #4 on: June 10, 2013, 11:52:05 AM »
3.5's PGtF37 just has some +2's. No class skills.

i know there is a different version around somewhere... i'll look it up.

the consolidated feat lists has campaign setting book, p34. it is a general feat which may be taken multiple times, the one you quoted is the regional feat which may only be taken once.
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Re: Alternative Ways to Get Class Skills
« Reply #5 on: July 01, 2013, 11:02:33 AM »
nevermind
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Re: Alternative Ways to Get Class Skills
« Reply #6 on: July 02, 2013, 05:36:22 PM »
Ahh you mean this one:
http://dndtools.eu/feats/forgotten-realms-campaign-setting--19/cosmopolitan--440/

not this one:
http://dndtools.eu/feats/players-guide-to-faerun--22/cosmopolitan--441/

Does the Regional vs. General keep both feats in play, despite the 3.5 update?
(I'd say yes, but have no idea about that finicky a rules interpretation)

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Re: Alternative Ways to Get Class Skills
« Reply #7 on: July 03, 2013, 10:45:11 AM »
i think so. ^^

and as i've said elsewhere, a feat should be something that breaks a rule, adds an ability not otherwise available, or represents a significant bonus. these plus 2s to one or more things type feats don't cut it. now if they gave the bonus to every skill keyed to a certain stat, that would be worth a feat.
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Re: Alternative Ways to Get Class Skills
« Reply #8 on: July 03, 2013, 04:19:02 PM »
 ;) ... so the standard non full-caster feat stack now goes:

6) Leadership
9) Cosmopolitan - UMD
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Re: Alternative Ways to Get Class Skills
« Reply #9 on: July 04, 2013, 11:25:17 AM »
;) ... so the standard non full-caster feat stack now goes:

6) Leadership
9) Cosmopolitan - UMD

no, i would say it goes like this...

1) Cosmopolitan - UMD
3) ?
6) Leadership
9) Landlord
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Re: Alternative Ways to Get Class Skills
« Reply #10 on: July 09, 2013, 03:21:08 AM »
;) ... so the standard non full-caster feat stack now goes:

6) Leadership
9) Cosmopolitan - UMD

no, i would say it goes like this...

1) Cosmopolitan - UMD
3) ?
6) Leadership
9) Landlord

Of course if Dragon Mag is on the table you can just go ahead and swap Cosmopolitan to Wedded to History, since immortality ranks slightly above a standard +2, and the follow up feat is really solid.

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Re: Alternative Ways to Get Class Skills
« Reply #11 on: July 09, 2013, 10:27:27 AM »
;) ... so the standard non full-caster feat stack now goes:

6) Leadership
9) Cosmopolitan - UMD

no, i would say it goes like this...

1) Cosmopolitan - UMD
3) ?
6) Leadership
9) Landlord

Of course if Dragon Mag is on the table you can just go ahead and swap Cosmopolitan to Wedded to History, since immortality ranks slightly above a standard +2, and the follow up feat is really solid.

wedded to history does not grant immortality in and of itself. check out the article again, it's kinda twisty. the endless quality, as granted by the spell listed does grant the unaging lesser form of immortality, but the feats do not. they offer backstory fluff and a nice mechanical bonus, but do not actually grant the endless quality. ^^
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Re: Alternative Ways to Get Class Skills
« Reply #12 on: March 03, 2014, 11:40:53 PM »
I really think you should add a link to the discussion thread in the handbook.  I had a difficult time finding this thread to post my feedback. 

The link to the Savage Tides Player's Guide needs to be updated, since it leads to a blank page now.  The product's page on Paizo's site has a couple of links to download a free PDF version.  They're also willing to sell you a physical copy, which could be slightly confusing to anyone you link there.  It may be best to choose a version (high or medium resolution) and link directly to that. 

Oriental Adventures gives humans an extra class skill for all their classes if they belong to a clan.  The down side is, humans who belong to a clan must take an ancestor feat at 1st level.  Dragon 318 updates the Lion Clan to provide intimidate instead of knowledge (war). 

It would be nice if you listed which draconic heritages added the relevant skill to a sorcerer's class skills. 

The kobold domain looks like it's meant to have a link, but it doesn't. 

When you list Nightbringer initiate in the hide section, you correctly list the source as Faiths of Eberron.  When you list it in the move silently section, you incorrectly list the source as Magic of Eberron.