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Gaming Discussion => D&D 3.5 and Pathfinder => Topic started by: kitep on November 17, 2019, 04:37:31 AM

Title: Advancing Constructs
Post by: kitep on November 17, 2019, 04:37:31 AM
When advancing (aka adding HD) to a non-intelligent construct, does it get an ability increase at every 4th HD?

I was looking at Stone Golem vs Greater Stone Golem.  STR increase by +8, Dex by -2.  Which is what you get when you change size from large to huge.  But it also increase HD from 14 to 42, so should get a bump at 16, 20, 24, 28, 32, 36, and 40.  That's 7 increases for those counting.

MM, p290
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Ability Score Improvement: Whenever a monster reaches a number of Hit Dice divisible by 4, it improves one ability score by 1 point. For example, a lammasu of 7 Hit Dice increased to 14 Hit Dice gains an ability score improvement at 8 HD and another one at 12 HD. Monsters do not gain ability score increases for levels they “already reached” with their racial Hit Dice, since these adjustments are included in their basic ability scores.

This is actually the 2nd time I've seen a golem not get the stat increases.  The first one was an advanced Flesh Golem in Enemies and Allies, but that's a 3.0 book so I thought maybe it's different.

Did I miss a rule somewhere?
Title: Re: Advancing Constructs
Post by: Stratovarius on November 17, 2019, 07:20:13 AM
Yes. That if WotC editors can make a mistake, they will make a mistake.  :lol
Title: Re: Advancing Constructs
Post by: kitep on November 17, 2019, 03:47:39 PM
That's what they get for hiring a team of Murphys
Title: Re: Advancing Constructs
Post by: kitep on November 17, 2019, 03:50:57 PM
There's also a problem with the increased market price.

Should be +5000gp per HD, +50,000gp for increased size.
5000*28 + 50,000 = 190,000
But the market price only increases by 106,000gp
Title: Re: Advancing Constructs
Post by: Nanshork on November 17, 2019, 05:30:21 PM
WotC doesn't follow their own rules lots of times.   :shrug
Title: Re: Advancing Constructs
Post by: Keldar on November 18, 2019, 01:09:16 PM
What were they supposed to do, look things up before publishing?!
Title: Re: Advancing Constructs
Post by: awaken_D_M_golem on November 18, 2019, 04:14:49 PM
 :lol


Vaguely remember the Effigy Master in CArc as the cheapest construct ~advancer and/or cheese.
But sheez, that's like 339 era stuff.
Artificer is my bet for cheapest normal use, but it's a bet.
Title: Re: Advancing Constructs
Post by: kitep on November 19, 2019, 02:07:09 AM
Yeah, effigy and homunculus seems to be the cheapest versions of constructs.