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Offline kitep

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Can a Crusader take the same manuever more than once?
« on: August 09, 2012, 01:11:23 AM »
A Crusader (Tome of Battle) gets 5 manuevers.  If he really likes manuever A and B, can he take Ax3 and Bx2, or do all 5 manuevers have to be distinct?  Can he take less than 5?


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Re: Can a Crusader take the same manuever more than once?
« Reply #1 on: August 09, 2012, 01:25:28 AM »
Shall we ask if a sorcerer can learn the same spell more than once?  Can he learn less than the 4 cantrips and 2 1st level spells at 1st level?

No on both.  It's the same for the crusader.

However, there is one little thing on page 47:
Quote from: ToB
Much like a sorcerer’s spells, each stance or maneuver is a specific ability that a character might know.

Each one is a unique ability to either know or you don't.  You can't take it more than once.

As for a rules quote on whether you can take less maneuvers or spells than you're allowed at a certain level, it's very doubtful you'll find one because it's one of those things the game assumes you'll do.  It's as "duh" as saying a human has two arms and two legs.
« Last Edit: August 09, 2012, 01:42:55 AM by Jackinthegreen »

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Re: Can a Crusader take the same manuever more than once?
« Reply #2 on: August 09, 2012, 03:59:52 PM »
This was at least partially addressed in the FAQ.
Quote from: WotC FAQ, pg 13
Could a crusader (ToB 8) choose to learn or ready fewer maneuvers than he or she would be entitled to?

No. You must learn and ready the full number of maneuvers entitled to you by your level. Otherwise, you’d be able to cycle through your favorites faster, which defeats the purpose of the crusader’s unique recharge mechanic.

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Re: Can a Crusader take the same manuever more than once?
« Reply #3 on: August 09, 2012, 04:34:10 PM »
Thanks.  That solves that.