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Re: Beholders
« Reply #80 on: July 06, 2012, 01:31:28 AM »
Random idea: Beholder, Firework.

This sure looks like a beholder, no?
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Re: Beholders
« Reply #81 on: December 07, 2012, 01:42:01 AM »
Sorry Ive taken so long, I updated both drammors critters.  Do the eye rays seem ok as is?

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Re: Beholders
« Reply #82 on: December 07, 2012, 11:44:42 AM »
Somehow I always thought the Inverted Beholder would have suction powers on it's cone attack as well. And a stomach bigger than the outside.
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Re: Beholders
« Reply #83 on: December 07, 2012, 04:00:13 PM »
Is Drammor still here?  I can change it if that sounds good.  It sounds like a neat option for me.  Mybe change one of the eyes into a telekinetic pull

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Re: Beholders
« Reply #84 on: December 08, 2012, 07:26:51 AM »
Yes, I am still here. Those are amazing ideas, really. I love them.

Maybe after I'm done with the planar binder series, I'll make a beholder binder. There are certainly enough of them.
[20:32] <DonQuixote> A POX UPON YOU ALL!
[20:32] <DonQuixote> YOU, J, FOR STEALING THE PURITY OF NORNS.
[20:32] <DonQuixote> YOU, DRAMMOR, FOR ENSNARING ME IN THIS FIENDISH PRISON.

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Re: Beholders
« Reply #85 on: December 08, 2012, 04:08:39 PM »
im thinking i could switch out disintegrate for the vacuum ray

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Re: Beholders
« Reply #86 on: December 11, 2012, 01:20:33 AM »
Updated them,  if you guys like those two as is I just need to do CR.

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Re: Beholders
« Reply #87 on: December 12, 2012, 12:15:59 AM »
Vortex could use an automatic bite and swallow attack if the movement leaves them inside the Beholder's space.
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Re: Beholders
« Reply #88 on: December 19, 2012, 02:09:17 AM »
8 seem ok for the Invert?

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Re: Beholders
« Reply #89 on: December 20, 2012, 02:27:50 AM »
Seems to be at a glance.
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Re: Beholders
« Reply #90 on: December 20, 2012, 05:02:49 PM »
the good fols at gitp are freaking out about the rend damage.  They believe it means a potential tpk if the beholder goes first and gets off the hold monster blast.

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Re: Beholders
« Reply #91 on: December 20, 2012, 08:33:34 PM »
Not quite that bad I expect, each of the bites are melee, and not at a spectacular accuracy, dealing low individual damage each. Rend kicks in only once per attack salvo.

It's also squishy, I mean, it's a beholder. Glass cannons are their thing.
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Re: Beholders
« Reply #92 on: December 20, 2012, 11:05:30 PM »
their thought is that if the beholder paralyzes everyone it just rends one per round.  Granted the blast effect is random

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Re: Beholders
« Reply #93 on: December 21, 2012, 10:33:18 AM »
If it managed to paralyze everyone(which is extremely unlikely given the pre-conditions), it's already won the fight.
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Re: Beholders
« Reply #94 on: December 26, 2012, 02:30:57 AM »
Should there be a daily limit on the spooge beholders summon?

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Re: Beholders
« Reply #95 on: December 26, 2012, 05:30:30 AM »
The living spells expire in (CL) minutes anyway, that and the spells being stuff the beholder normally does, I'd say its fine.
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Re: Beholders
« Reply #96 on: December 27, 2012, 11:28:45 PM »
Thoughts on CR since it can summon so many oozes?

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Re: Beholders
« Reply #97 on: December 28, 2012, 07:04:19 AM »
Depends a lot though, if mutual surprise, the spooge is actually quite weak, since it'd only ever generate two slow moving living spells before it's killed.
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Re: Beholders
« Reply #98 on: December 28, 2012, 02:27:19 PM »
It can summon all of them as a Free Action on it's turn.  It can put out all the oozes at once.

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Re: Beholders
« Reply #99 on: December 28, 2012, 02:33:49 PM »
Oh wait, misread it. Hmm, it'd be killed pretty quick anyway, so CR should be that of all the oozes together, + adjustment for getting basically a surprise round(while the PCs kill the beholder)
Everything is edible. Just that there are things only edible once per lifetime.
It's a god-eat-god world.

Procrastination is the thief of time; Year after year it steals, till all are fled,
And to the mercies of a moment leaves; The vast concerns of an eternal scene.