I thought we needed a thread about more silliness.
The first stunt that comes to mind is making Limited Wish and Wish pay for themselves:- Limited Wish costs 1,500gp in diamond and can duplicate a spell with a component cost of up to 1,000 gp without paying component cost. Wish costs 25,000gp in diamond and can duplicate a spell with a component cost of up to 10,000 gp without paying component cost.
- Fabricate happens to treat the raw materials it uses to Fabricate into new objects as a component cost.
- Crafting an object only consumes 1/3rd its final price in raw material.
- Therefore, use Limited Wish to duplicate a Fabricate using 1k gp's worth of very rough raw diamond to produce 3k gp's worth of perfectly cut diamond, making a Craft (jewelry) check (DC20 as a "superior item") appropriately. Similarly, Wish can make 30k gp of diamond by letting you cast a 10k gp Fabricate.
And just like that, your Limited Wish and Wish spells are producing their own spell components at a profit. Cast 1 Limited Wish and make spell components sufficient for 2 Limited Wishes. Cast Wish 5 times and you get enough surplus diamond for a 6th Wish free. You might have to merge the 5 5k gp diamonds into 1 with a regular Fabricate spellcast, though.
Another well-known stunt is
taking advantage of how these spells duplicate other spells as a standard action. The famous example is using Limited Wish to duplicate
Geas as a standard action, creating a No Save lose effect.
Then there is
using discounted spells.
Miracle, when copying spells off of the Summoner, Bard, etc. spell lists, can cast all kinds of high-level Wizard spells that are not otherwise available to Miracle. You can do the same with Limited Wish and Wish to cast a few higher-level spells than it can copy off of full caster lists. Bear in mind there is no restriction that you must duplicate spells only from class's default spell lists. If there is an archetype, domain, feat, deity-worship, or whatever that grants a spell at a discounted level, that means the spell exists in a lower level version and is, as such, eligible for duplication.
And on that note, you can
use Limited Wish to duplicate a spell effect sufficiently for a Ring of Spell Knowledge by providing you an arcane version of whatever esoteric spell you desire (every spell has an arcane form courtesy of
Loremaster PrC's
Secret of Magical Discipline feat, let alone the
Spell Sage Wizard or
Skald's Spell Kenning). With a freeform Limited Wish, you can probably just directly impart knowledge of the spell effect into your Ring of Spell Knowledge. The #1 trick that comes to mind here is using it to give yourself
Alchemical Allocation (incidentally, the
Antiquarian Investigator casts the
Alchemist/Investigator list as arcane spells). But you can also use this to get discounted spells in your Ring of Spell Knowledge. Remember that if you UMD the Ring of Spell Knowledge, you can get it to treat a spell as being on your class list, bypassing any spell level penalties.
Giving yourself templates. This one is a classic, especially if you are getting your Wish granted by a fey, genie, or devil. If you use Miracle or Wish with the full 25k gp component, probably you can get a template as a free-form request/wish, within reason.
Making spells/items undispellable without Miracle/Wish. The ultimate in anti-dispel shields. It stands to reason that if certain effects can only be undone with Miracle or Wish, you can also use Miracle or Wish to make certain effects immune to dispel or any other removal unless the enemy uses a Miracle or Wish.
Request anything in line with your deity's precepts. This is a Miracle stunt, but if you have a request in mind that seems poised to fulfill your deity's ethos or is otherwise strongly under their portfolio or something that they would do, you can probably swing a Miracle for it. A Cleric of
Abadar can buy, sell, or rent just about anything from their deity with a Miracle (admittedly you could also just
Plane Shift to
Aktun). A Cleric of
Cayden Cailean can probably get an entire city drunk and disorderly. And so on.
Then there is Occult Rituals.- The first idea is to use a freeform Limited Wish, Wish, or Miracle to grant yourself knowledge of an occult ritual bypassing standard research rules. This can save quite a bit of time and avoid annoying int checks. On that note, though, you can probably use a freeform Limited Wish just to give yourself a huge bonus on the int check to research a ritual and make it pretty much auto-pass. Of course, you can also just use backstory research while taking 20 on the ability check (you can take 20 on ability checks, just like skill checks) and start a campaign with the appropriate ritual knowledge.
- But we can do better. You see, Pathfinder explicitly counts Occult Rituals as a "form of spellcasting." Haunted Communion even refers to itself as a spell. By this token, Limited Wish can duplicate any ritual effect level 5 or lower and Miracle/Wish can duplicate any ritual level 7 or lower. Even if your GM were to declare that they shouldn't be counted as spells, Limited Wish and Miracle both explicitly allow you to "produce any other effect whose power level is in line with the above effects" (said above effects including duplicating spell effects), so Rituals, as an effect whose power level is in line with spells, are duplicable regardless. Wish does not explicitly detail that capability, but allows for freeform wishes that have even greater effect than the detailed list, so duplicating an effect in line with the above should be perfectly viable. This opens up some rather fun options without having to undergo the standard ritual research, preparation, or skill check requirements, since you duplicate the effects instantly.
Anyone have ideas for more stunts? Let's get the ball rolling.
