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Offline sirpercival

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Gramarie Discussion Thread
« on: December 07, 2012, 09:28:19 AM »
Gramarie (by Kellus) wins at D&D.  One of the coolest pieces of homebrew I have ever seen.  And... it's insanely complicated, particularly due to the infinite number of things you can do with it.

So this is a thread to discuss Gramarie ideas.





It occurs to me that if you're in a doctorate tech-level society, there's no reason to ever specialize in anything but Heuristicism.  As long as there are specialist NPCs in each of the other disciplines, you can buy one copy of each of the specialist principles from the other disciplines and build them into HEUR302 circuits, at which point they can replicate themselves.

There's one magisterial specialist principle in each discipline (7 * 243) and one doctorate specialist principle (7 * 2187), which makes 17,010 gp for the whole set.  (You can also buy pre-made circuits, but it costs more.)  There are only 3 that are essential, though: ALCH286, ALCH364, and YGGD241.  (YGGD371 is nice, but not necessary.)

Once you have those, you can make the following setup:

~Buy a casting of True Creation which produces 10gp worth of pure platinum (about 1 platinum piece).  It'll cost you about 1700gp, but you build it into a silver output transformer (costs 500xp).
~Buy a casting of Light (cost 5gp), and put it into a silver output transformer.  With this, you can hook it up to a gold input transformer to produce 1 net ebb every round.  It's essentially a trickle charge; you can have more efficient generators, but this is the simplest.

Once you've paid for a casting of any spell for a silver transformer, you don't need to pay for it ever again, since the transformer can cast the spell into a new transformer for free.  You don't even have to pay XP for the platinum producer.

If you hook 8 Light generators to a single Platinum producer, you get 1 pp every round.  However, it takes about 70,000 pp to make a cubic foot of platinum, which is where the real fun is, so you'll need a lot of platinum producers and light generators.

For the other raw materials, you need to buy a casting of Wall of Iron into a silver output transformer (becoming an iron producer).  You can hook it up to light generators as well (it only takes 6), and then you take your purchased ALCH286 circuit with some conditional circuits to have it iterate over portions of the wall, transmuting them to the other planetary metals.

Create a demiplane for this setup, and put some HEUR302 circuits in to continuously expand it.  Also build some ELDK drones to shuttle raw materials through connections made via your purchased YGGD241 into the semi-spaces attached to various pouches, so that if you want X you can always reach into your X pouch and have some there.

You can upgrade all your raw materials with your purchased ALCH364 circuit and its children, but I suggest having separate production/storage areas for each one, since you don't want your sunmetal or phlogiston to destroy everything else.  You can put those in quicksilver enclosures to speed up the production time, of course.


For personal use, you'll want to make a silver output transformer for any spells that you will be using on a regular basis.  You'll want 1 silver input transformer, so you can power them off of Eldritch Blasts, and you can switch around the attachments based on what you want at any given time. 

However, for combat purposes, I suggest setting up a more efficient generator (maybe phologiston + blue ice), hooking it to as many orichalcum batteries as you can fit in the same semi-space, and then setting up a conditional circuit to draw off 9 ebbs with a made-up word (because speaking is a free action you can perform even when it's not your turn).  Those 9 ebbs hook into whatever silver transformer you need; you can change outputs as a standard action, because it doesn't take you any actions to fire your weapon.  You can also have a second word trigger to draw off as many ebbs as you can handle, which you fire through a generic silver transformer to do ebb-d6 arcane damage.

Next, you'll want to build as many AIs as you can, and hook them all to the same circuit so they share brainpower.  The central AI is built into your hat, so that you're in the bubble and they can all communicate with you telepathically to Aid Another on your mental skill checks (need to hit Diplomacy 100 to make orichalcum, and high UMD = better ebb capacity in your transformers).  It's nanobots, but only for mental skills.

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Re: Gramarie Discussion Thread
« Reply #1 on: December 07, 2012, 10:58:36 AM »
Orichalcum? Chump. Change.

To sum up the method I'm musing on right now (and setting up a format for discussing these things):

Blueprint: Gravity-Powered PI burst-generator.
Principles Necessary: All Yggdratecture Principles of up to the Magisterial level, At least 2 Kaleidomantic Principles, source of Phlogiston.
Prestige Class: Yes (Shadowright; Ruby Ruination Colour of Magic)
Set-up: Open up a pair of subspaces, with their portals on metal plates; the dimensions must be 1'x1'x1/2'. Connect the opposite ends, so that they form, collectively, a 1' cube.

Now, insert a 1'x1' phlogiston cube into the subspace, careful to have it set up in a way that the phlogiston will not fall or slide. Keep on pushing it in until it lines up with the edges the subspace perfectly.

Next, set-up a red filter, modified by Red Ruination, to cover one of the openings on the sub-space; set it's reference point to the plate that sub-space opening is on. Include some way for the Red Ruination filter to be accessed so that you can deal cold damage to it at some later point.

Now, move the two plates together so that the subspaces are completely concealed from view; they should form a continuous, 1' long loop, with the red filter "appearing" at every 1' interval.

Now, rotate the plates; since the sub-spaces inherit outside gravity, the phlogiston begins to fall. Thanks to a Sage ruling in Dragon #327, we know that the default fall speed (falling speed if you stall is different, rules-wise), we get 500' of falling in the first round, and 1200' in the next round.

This means that the Phlogiston cube, which has nothing to stop or slow its fall, travels through the red filter 500 times in the first round, and 1200 times each subsequent round.

Leave until you need a truly massive burst of energy (pretty much unequaled by... anything.)
Output: 39000 ebbs first round of falling; additional 117600 ebbs each round thereafter (released as one time burst.)
Drawbacks: Produces an explosion when energy is released; functions as Fireball, except radius equals (ebbs)*5', and it deals damage equal to (ebbs)d6. This is what we are harnessing the power from.
Patent Holder: Amechra  :tongue

Now, as an aside, we also need to find a nice abbreviation for ebb; I move for E.
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Re: Gramarie Discussion Thread
« Reply #2 on: December 11, 2012, 09:15:20 PM »
I sugest using the standard scientific naming system, and calling them kelluses, or Ks for short.
« Last Edit: December 12, 2012, 05:35:04 PM by bobthe6th »
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Re: Gramarie Discussion Thread
« Reply #3 on: December 11, 2012, 11:18:44 PM »
That might work...
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