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3.5/pathfinder auto crit infinite chain?
« on: April 27, 2014, 01:18:53 PM »
So I was surfing the webs and found a fun 3.5 class called the Tome Samurai!
This classes level 19 ability is Iaijutsu Grandmaster (Ex): At 19th level, any Attack of Opportunity made by the Samurai is automatically a confirmed critical hit.
Now if we mix that with the pathfinder feat Seize the Moment.
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So now all we have to do is find a way to make another copy of yourself(Ice assassin) or have a friend who has the same exact build. ... Or find a way to make yourself count as 2 people(can someone find this).
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Re: 3.5/pathfinder auto crit infinite chain?
« Reply #1 on: April 27, 2014, 01:39:54 PM »
Two problems:

1) you would need the ability to take an infinite number of AoO's (epic feat, I believe)
2) That version of Samurai is third-party (from Frank & K's tomes, I presume)

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Re: 3.5/pathfinder auto crit infinite chain?
« Reply #2 on: April 27, 2014, 01:54:24 PM »
your aoo opportunity is an issue, i agree there with Gazzien on that and w/ the third party bit.

however, iir... you count as your own ally
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Re: 3.5/pathfinder auto crit infinite chain?
« Reply #3 on: April 27, 2014, 02:29:27 PM »
your aoo opportunity is an issue, i agree there with Gazzien on that and w/ the third party bit.

however, iir... you count as your own ally
That, and you have the Illusion (I think) Cleric Domain power, Dvati, and I'm sure someone else can think of other ways to clone yourself.

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Re: 3.5/pathfinder auto crit infinite chain?
« Reply #4 on: April 27, 2014, 03:57:42 PM »
i think as long as you're your own ally, its infinite up to your max aoo per targer per round. (1?)

after that, i think your just gonna get an aoo (to your limit) on each attack you make, im guessing less than 10 before aoo's. so, like 10 - 20 crits per round spread to multiple targets.

only having 1 level to toy with limits the abuse on this i think.

as always, blood in the water and double hit makes sure someone is having a bad day. well, a whole lot of somebodies.

i see a feat starved build.... 2 for getting blood in the water (or a level), both combat reflexs, power attack? improved two weapon fighting, snap kick, double hit. thats 8?

4 bab attacks, snap kick, itwf = 7 if you dont have a tail or extra arms. (more feats?)

7 aoo's and 7 double hits. and +21 attack / damage by the last hit. round two... i suspect is gonna be wasted looking for more targets.

my 2c.

im sure i'll get a bit corrected... lets have it.. :D
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Re: 3.5/pathfinder auto crit infinite chain?
« Reply #5 on: May 01, 2014, 07:17:25 PM »
upon further reading, i think that sam class is only getting 3 levels.

that gives you 5 'pick your auto crit' shots a day.

pick an ancestral weapon that you can bump to a x6 or better multiplier...

the poor wording of the lvl 11 ability might fix the 1 / target / round aoo problem. but it shouldnt
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Re: 3.5/pathfinder auto crit infinite chain?
« Reply #6 on: May 03, 2014, 06:21:35 PM »
Altitude allows you to stack Roundabout Kick and Lightning Maces, which both trigger on a AoO crit, throw in Double Hit to get 2 attacks/AoO.

There's a feat in Dark Sun's Faces of the North that adds your Wis to the # of AoOs/rnd, but that would require a Necklace of Natural Attacks (+1 Aptitude)

there's a Planescape feat that affects all within the area of a spell, to roll average for EVERY roll. Just get yoou crit threat below 10, and you get infinite attacks per AoO, as long as that 10 roll hits
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