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Quote from: Jackinthegreen on April 28, 2012, 10:08:23 AM

Quote from: phaedrusxy on April 28, 2012, 09:41:27 AM

Quote from: sealofnoob on April 28, 2012, 08:38:53 AM

Does mage slayer work if the mage is casting a quickened spell?

No, because Quickened spells don't draw attacks of opportunity in the first place. So there is no need to cast them defensively.

Until you get into other feats which make casting any spell in threatened range provoke an AoO, including swift.  Let me see if I can dig that one up.

Edit: Feat is called Occult Opportunist.  http://www.realmshelps.net/cgi-bin/featbox.pl?feat=Occult_Opportunist

There's also Supernatural Opportunist (I think that's what it's called) from Tome of Magic.  It triggers AoOs from supernatural abilities.  You can't interrupt them like you can spells, but it's more punishment, especially if you can crank up your single attack damage really high. 

Hell, if you can manage that (which can't be all that hard at epic levels), I'd also suggest nabbing great cleave.  That way you can credibly murder entire armies given your crazy reach.

This is awesome.  I'm done with feats, skills, and levels now.  I just need to make some ridiculous magic items to help me out.

9 million gold to spend   I think I want a +10 weapon, I need immunity to as much magic I can get (esp save or suck/die spells), more hit points, (I'm not even going to bother with ac because shock trooper = -28 ac), more reach (because 30 reach at colossal ISNT ENOUGH!!!), spell absorption?, mobility and flight (perfect?.  Admittedly, I'm not good with magic items.

Quote from: phaedrusxy on April 28, 2012, 09:41:27 AM

Quote from: sealofnoob on April 28, 2012, 08:38:53 AM

Does mage slayer work if the mage is casting a quickened spell?

No, because Quickened spells don't draw attacks of opportunity in the first place. So there is no need to cast them defensively.

Until you get into other feats which make casting any spell in threatened range provoke an AoO, including swift and immediate.  Let me see if I can dig that one up.

Would be much appreciated if you could find that one for me. 

Also, I love some of the ideas, but unfortunately, I have to stay true to what the character was built as many years ago when we started this campaign. 

I don't have the original character, but I remember that he had some devoted defender stufff.  I could stop the DD@ level 4 and have all of the class abilities.  The only thing I gain from more DD levels is the ability to select more charges, more ac bonus and better bonuses to the abilities

Hmm, so Fighter 20/Devoted Defender 15 (feats!!)

Feats I'm liking:
Mage Slayers (aoo vs casters even with defensive casting)
Robilar's Gambit
Riposte
Hold the Line
Close Quarters Combat
Karmic Strike
Continue the Fight (incredibly broken feat out of AEG feats book that lets you take 1d4 damage a round for an additional standard act)
Epic "Charge" (DM allowed me to take this to assign multiple charges for my Devoted Defender class)
Blood of the Mountain (another overpowered feat I'm able to take that gives 3 hp per level.  Can't pass on 105 hp@ lv35)
Deflect Arrows-->Exceptional Deflection-->Infinite Deflection-->Reflect Arrows (I can reflect ranged attacks made against my allies and myself)

I still have a crapload of feats that I can take though, since I'm getting the Pathfinder build, which means more feats per level

I wasn't sure if I should go all the way up to Epic Weapon Focus/Specialization or not.  I think this is the class setup I'm going to go with since the game is going to be about 8 hours from now.  I really need some help putting together magical items to make it all awesome.  I have 9 million gold to spend, and can't spend more than 4 million on any one item.

I don't think the wild shape is going to help me here.  I don't have any way to change my weapon sizes with this so I will lose my equipment.  I also don't want to sacrifice full BAB.

Another note:  Is there any way I can contingency a teleport to my charge in case they are attacked?

Thank you in advance for taking time out to read this:

My DM is a long-time friend of 20 years or so.  He's pretty much always been DM.  He's getting deployed to Afghanistan soon and wants to do some huge level 36 game before he goes.  I had three characters in his campaign, all around level 20, but he said I couldn't use a psion.  I attempted to build a wizard, but he doesn't want epic magic, is critical of many feats that are overpowered for mages, and is just being too frustrating for me to want to bother with a spell casting class.

One of my characters was a fighter/somethingoranother/devoted defender.  I specifically remember annoying the crap out of him with a two handed, heavy hitting devoted defender that would just float around and guard the wizard.  However, it looks like around this level, a wizard just isn't going to need much protecting.  We will, however, have another fighter type, so I figured i would set him as my charge and stay with him in close combat.

I need to be the ultimate defensive bulwark of annoyingness.  I remember having this character set up to take an attack of opportunity for pretty much anything someone could do through feats.  He could attack of opportunity (aoo) for trying to grapple him or his charge, for casting too close to him (even if they were casting defensively), attack of opportunity if they hit him (or missed him).

I want him to hit *hard* and hit *everything*.  I need to be able to burn through those immunities with an epic weapon of sorts.  I need to have some incredible defenses, through high health, great saves, good armor, and some sort of spell absorption and resistance.  Hopefully my wizard (who will be a level 35 erudite power to spell psion) can take care of anything we would need 'god' for. 

I need to be highly mobile, able to fly with good manuverability, to reach those pesky flyers.  I don't have a DMG handy, but the gold limit I have should be determined somewhere in there...maybe around page 28?  can't exactly remember. 

Finally, I'm going to need to pump my size up (and down for tight places), and have range to get off attacks. Even possibly the ability to take multiple full attacks in the same round (or as many attacks as possible).

I will mainly need help with:

1.  items.
2.  feats.
3.  ways to boost my stats.



I can use 3.0 official printed WoTC books if there are no official 3.5 books for it (i.e. devoted defender is 3.0 only).

Please help me!

Looking like he doesn't want to use epic magic at all.  *sigh*  What is the point of having a level 35 epic character with no epic abilities?

http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/ex/20010803

This is what I've found.  I don't see anything about stealing spells.

I'm failing to see how Reserves will help me a whole lot.  Granted it's 3 levels.  I just looked at this

There are two possible interpretations of this feat.  Take, for example, a 20th-level wizard attempting to cast fireball. 

(1) In likely RAI, the wizard could cast fireball with a maximum effective CL of 13 and do 13d6 damage.
(2) In the other, more optimization-friendly interpretation, the wizard would have a maximum effective CL of 23 and do 23d6 damage.

The RAW will say that a fireball caps at 10d6, so therefore, increasing your caster level will do nothing.  That's how our DM will interpret this.

EDIT:  Nevermind...I notcied it said you can break spell-level limits.  He will more than likely choose option 1