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Fanciful Science: Gramarie, Grafting, and Graphemes / Re: WE're Discussing SCIENCE here, friends! [Discussion Thread]
« on: December 20, 2012, 06:04:41 PM »Yeah, it's just... More than half your principles locked in seems excessive, even if they are likely to be chosen anyway.I've just started re-reading the system, so I can't really offer many thoughts on the Transcholar. I do like the Transcendence capstone working in all the required principles, but on the other hand it seems like a lot of required principles - at least at first glance. You only get five principles that are freely chosen if you obtain all of the Applied Focus ones, and while there aren't that many principles to begin with (and so five is still rather a lot) that's still an awful lot of choices to be locked in.
I also think you meant to say in Transcendence that if you used IMCH388 you can spend uses of Minor Virtuality to become fully corporeal, since you're already incorporeal at that point. Unless I'm really missing something, which is entirely possible.
Good catch on the typo, fixed. Definitely corporeal.
As for the required principles... Honestly, those are some of the most generally useful principles in the system (maybe except for BIOY101 if you're not into that sort of thing), so most people are probably going to learn them anyway. Then, the HEUR and IMCH stuff is really the problem, in that you're forced to take stuff from both disciplines... and yeah, I understand that that may be a bit much. Honestly, I have no idea if anyone is going to like or want this prc... I just had the inspiration and thought it was a cool premise.
It would be less overwhelming to have some kind of powered-down version of Transcendence, or some other benefit to fifth level, and have the full power version only usable by getting all the components.
I think it's reasonable to require some HEUR and IMCH principles to get into the class, since it's a prestige class about blending them, but having a class feature make you take principles from other disciplines is a bit off - thematically, if nothing else. If nothing can be done, nothing can be done, but it's really weird seeing a class combining two disciplines that makes you take principles from others.