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Min/Max 3.x / Re: Cleric Build for an undead campaign?
« on: April 05, 2013, 10:56:59 AM »
The Paragnostic Apostle is nice, but the 1-level dip for "Seeing Throught the Veil" is not that good; my idea now is going Cleric6, RSoP until 6 so that I gain the Maximized heals, then take a Contemplative level for Divine Health (Immune to all diseases including magical ones) and a bonus Domain, then finishing the RSoP at level 17.

About that Bonus Domain, I can take it from any domain since this campaign has a monoteistic setting. I was looking for some good Domains, ranging from Travel for the Freedom of Movement ability and nice spells, to Earth for the spells (I mean, Iron Body Persisted? Whoa). Any other Domains I should be aware of / Domains you warmly recommend?

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Min/Max 3.x / Re: Cleric Build for an undead campaign?
« on: April 04, 2013, 08:24:11 AM »
The problem with the Inquisitor is, one of the requirements is being Lawful Good/Neutral, and the RSoP requires Neutral Good. I don't think the DM is going to give me the chance to ignore the different alignments.

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Min/Max 3.x / Re: Cleric Build for an undead campaign?
« on: April 04, 2013, 07:08:10 AM »
Ok, replying to a few of the comments:

  • @Halinn: About the Divine Oracle, it seems I made a mistake on that; I do qualify for that at level 6, not 5. As such, the build would go straight to RSoP at level 7.
  • @Janthkin: The wording of the "Empower/Maximize/Supreme Healing" abilities is different in the Italian version, and as such they play in my favour: Translated, it goes "When a RSoP of at least X level cast a spell from the Healing domain (...)", and it doesn't say it has to be a domain spell of that domain; as such, I can cast them without the Healing Domain and the ACF that Janthkin suggested. I am sure that the Master agrees with me, since the italian version is the only one they know and we already had a RSoP in game with him. Thanks for all the items you linked me, though.
  • @Maat Mons: Dunno about those two, I'll have to ask, but if you read my comment to Janthkin you'll see that the Day and Night feat is useless to me, still thanks for the tip.

As per the suggestions, the build right now looks like this:

  • Cleric 1     --        -- Feats: Dynamic Priest (Spells to Cha), Divine Charisma (DC to Cha), Extend Spell (From Domain); Domains: Sun, Planning
  • Cleric 2
  • Cleric 3     --        -- Feat: Extra Turning
  • Cleric 4
  • Cleric 5
  • Cleric 6     --        -- Feats: Persistent Spell
  • Cleric 6/RSoP 1
  • Cleric 4/RSoP 2
  • Cleric 4/RSoP 3   -- Feat: Divine Metamagic (Persistent Spell)
  • Cleric 4/RSoP 4
  • Cleric 4/RSoP 5   -- Bonus Domain: Glory
  • Cleric 4/RSoP 6   -- Feat: ??? (Extra Turning maybe?)
  • Cleric 4/RSoP 7
  • Cleric 4/RSoP 8
  • Cleric 4/RSoP 9   -- Feat: ??? (Extra Turning maybe?)
  • Cleric 4/RSoP 10

I still miss a choice of what class to be the last 4 levels, and the feats that should go for level 12, 15 and 18; Extra Turning is always a good choice since DMM Persisting is ok. Any suggestions?

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Min/Max 3.x / Cleric Build for an undead campaign?
« on: April 02, 2013, 09:20:53 AM »
Hello there, I am new on the boards by registration, but I read them from time to time for tips or fun. I find myself in need of advice for the new campaign that my group will begin soon.

We're quite a large group, 8 people in fact, but the dm is able to keep us from stomping everything in our path without creating monsters that could one-hit us.

Our new campaign is going to be centered in an Egyptian-style theme, and he already told us that undead foes will be the most common thing we'll find ourselves against.

Against common practice for my group, this time it seems we'll have an overabundance of clerics, three from an eight people party, and another guy as a mystic theurge on top of that.

I have to admit this is the first time I try to be a divine spellcaster, and as such I find myself a little stumped.

Now, some details:
  • Manuals are chosen on a case-to-case for the most part, with the Complete series and Draconomicon all-in by default, and only Exated Deeds and Vile Darkness banned for sure. Dragonlance is in, Frostburn is maybe (they were not published in Italy).
  • Friendly stat-rolling, getting a couple of 18s won't be a problem.
  • No Polymorph-family spell allowed. No Nightsticks.

I read some of the handbooks out there, and I had started making a build of some sort, but it's still incomplete, and it's been done by someone as myself, who never really tried to create a powerful build. This was my idea as of now, major points included:

Human Cleric 4/Divine Oracle 2/Radiant Servant of Pelor 10

  • Cleric 1     --        --       -- Feats: Dynamic Priest (Spells to Cha), Divine Charisma (DC to Cha), Extend Spell (From Domain); Domains: Sun, Planning
  • Cleric 2
  • Cleric 3     --        --      -- Feats: Focus (Knowledge (Religion))
  • Cleric 4
  • Cleric 4/DO 1       --      -- Domain: Oracle
  • Cleric 4/DO 1/RSoP 1   -- Feat: Extra Turning;
  • Cleric 4/DO 1/RSoP 2   -- Empower Healing (Healing spells get free Enpower Spell metamagic on it)
  • Cleric 4/DO 2/RSoP 2   -- Prescient Sense (if you get a successful Reflex save that would halve, you take no damage instead)
  • Cleric 4/DO 2/RSoP 3   -- Feat: Persistent Spell; Aura of Warding (+2 morale to Will STs for me and allies in 10ft radius)
  • Cleric 4/DO 2/RSoP 4
  • Cleric 4/DO 2/RSoP 5   -- Bonus Domain: Glory
  • Cleric 4/DO 2/RSoP 6   -- Feat: Divine Metamagic (Persistent Spell); Maximize Healing (Healing spells get free Maximize Spell metamagic on it)
  • Cleric 4/DO 2/RSoP 7
  • Cleric 4/DO 2/RSoP 8   -- Positive Energy Burst (1d6/CL damage to undead in 100ft from caster)
  • Cleric 4/DO 2/RSoP 9
  • Cleric 4/DO 2/RSoP 10 -- Supreme Healing (Healing spells get free Enpower and Maximize Spell metamagic on it

Dynamic Priest and Divine Charisma to get all the casting on Charisma; the Divine Oracle is to get the Servant of Pelor a level before usual and the Prescient Sense stuff. The Glory Domain helps with Turning Undead. Also, usual Metamagical Persistent Spell Cheese.

The problems I have is both having never done a Cleric, and as such being not sure of what role I want to be in the party, and how to continue/improve the build. As such, I would appreciate your opinions on it and suggestions. Thanks.

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Introduce Yourself / Greetings from Italy gentlemen!
« on: April 02, 2013, 06:16:12 AM »
Hello fellow Minmaxers, I'm Matteo, 25, from Tuscany, Italy.

I started playing D&D some years ago with some school friends and never looked back since. My latest group is full of friendly people that tends towards building pretty powerful characters, and as such I came here, after some time as a reader-only on BG, to ask for advice.

I like RPG of every kind, from pen-and-paper to pc/console ones, and I wouldn't mind finding some fellow italians who share these interests. If you are one, feel free to pm me anytime!

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