Min/Max Boards

Seems I never added Chosen of Deneir to my lists and my link to Jordain-Born appears broken too.

Googling them I kept getting redirected to a page telling me the WotC site was under repairs though so maybe that's it.

Yes, each separate monster example they have listed is preceded by it's own Customized Half-Fiend template. The way they're presented each one is really a template in it's own right.

It's almost as if the header is Diabolical Half-Fiend while the individual templates are called Customized Half-Fiend (Insert-Base-Fiend-Name-Here).
An oddity to be sure.

For my Every Playable Monster by ECL Lists project it was useful to me to use the Customized Half-Fiend moniker and list them all separately.
But you are right, they do refer to the template(s) by both names.

In retrospect I suppose your use of the header name is more useful for your purposes. Sorry.


While I'm here, here's a link to the Monstrous Vampire from Ghostwalk where it was presented in a preview in the WotC archives:
http://archive.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/we/20031225a

Oh and thanks again. Yours is still the best list with the best references I've found. You set one heck of a standard. 

Just wanted to drop by and say a great big THANK YOU for providing these lists. Have been exceedingly helpful in my endeavor to build a set of random d% charts with every playable creature on them by ECL.

That the Web content, Dragon mag, AND Dungeon mag content is listed is fantastic. Kudos.


If you're interested here's the current Entomanthrope WotC link: http://archive.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/re/20040621a


Dragon 343 also has the Arcane Dragon listing which, though it isn't completely formatted like a regular template, it does have the line, "Arcane dragons possess all of the standard true dragon traits (see page 68 of the Monster Manual), plus they gain the following special qualities:", which to my mind removes the need for the text to provide many of the standard elements found in other template listings.
From there it follows standard (well for the article) template formula and considering that it already states the rest of the statistics I'd consider it a template. A +0 LA Template even.


Also, not sure if this is super helpful to you for this particular endeavor but it is relevant at least. Using the spell Greater Humanoid Essence (RoE) to make a Construct into a Humanoid lets you apply other spells that change the Construct's type and/or abilities.

The neat thing is that even after the Greater Humanoid Essence spell wears off the changes caused by the other spell(s) (eg. Mineral Warrior, Telepathic Bond) persist even though the Construct would normally not benefit from them due to type restrictions.
This shows that a creature's type changing due to a spell doesn't cause other spells affecting based on its type to cease functioning. If that were the case then Greater Humanoid Essence would cease functioning itself as soon as it changed the creature's type.

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