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Min/Max 3.x / Re: 3.5 Dervish in Pathfinder
« on: May 25, 2013, 03:54:14 AM »
Thanks for the input. It looks like the exact of character I was looking to play this time just isn't feasible in PF. However, the Dervish of Dawn seems interesting. I guess it's time to read up on PF bards.

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Min/Max 3.x / 3.5 Dervish in Pathfinder
« on: May 23, 2013, 03:02:45 AM »
So my group recently decided to pick up a bunch of Pathfinder books and give it a try. I've played Pathfinder only once before.

Before we decided to make the next campaign PF, I planned on playing a Dervish. My DM cut me some slack and is allowing me to port the 3.5 Dervish over to PF, but everything else is strictly PF, which ruins my plan of Swashbuckler/Fighter entry into Dervish. I've read through the PF Fighter guides, but I'm wondering how throwing the 3.5 Dervish in would change things.

We will be starting at level 1, but should be getting through the first 4/5 levels decently quickly. The party consists of a Monk and a Sorcerer right now. Sorc is going a mix of control and blasting, and I'm not sure what the Monk is doing.

I am allowed to use any first party content on the PF SRD. I am interested in the battle performance feats, and would like to keep my charisma decently high as I will most likely be the party face. I really don't know PF very well so any assistance would be much appreciated.

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Min/Max 3.x / Re: Iaido + evasive martial fighter
« on: November 30, 2011, 12:05:28 AM »
So what exactly constitutes a paladin spell? Any spell from the paladin spell list? (This was my personal interpretation) Any spell cast from a paladin spell slot? Any spell cast by a paladin?

Horizon walker 6 would give dimension door every 1d4 rounds, which is perfect. 6 levels is a lot to throw down for it, but would fit the theme of my character a bit better I think. Taking Jaunter 3 would give 90ft of dimension door/day as well a several teleports per day due to my high dex, but the problem with this is that I would have to visit 2 additional planes to qualify. Also, we don't own Demonweb Pits, so it may get denied.

My DM has approved Flick of the Wrist to work with a katana. He is also considering letting me take 1 level in swordsage, giving me Gloom Razor and Sapphire Nightmare Blade.

Human
1: Fighter 1 (Dodge, Exotic Weapon Proficiency (katana), Quick Draw)
2: Swordsage 1 [free weapon focus (katana)]
3: Fighter 2 (Improved Initiative, Shadow Blade)
4: Fighter 3
5: Fighter 4 (Flick of the Wrist)
6: Fighter 5 (Mobility)
7: Iaijutsu Master 1
8: IM 2
9: IM 3 (Gloom Razor)
10: IM 4 (Spring Attack)
11: IM 5
12: Horizon Walker 1 (Combat Reflexes) [Forest]
13: HW 2 [Marsh]
14: HW 3 [Underground]
15: HW 4 (Acrobatic Strike) [Plains]
16: HW 5 [Mountains]
17: HW 6 [Shifting]
18: IM 6 (???)
19: IM 7
20: IM 8

Haven't decided on a lvl 18 feat yet.

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Min/Max 3.x / Re: Iaido + evasive martial fighter
« on: November 29, 2011, 09:10:26 AM »
Quote from: SorO_Lost on November 29, 2011, 06:58:04 AM
Sword of the Arcane Order & Battle Blessing gives you Paladin/Wizard/Sorcerer spells as Swift actions.

Does this actually work? Seems to me that RAW the wizard spells you prepare are still wizard spells and not paladin spells, and thus are not affected by Battle Blessing.

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Min/Max 3.x / Re: Iaido + evasive martial fighter
« on: November 29, 2011, 06:00:31 AM »
Quote from: littha on November 29, 2011, 05:57:37 AM
It also gets more skill points per level but if your DM is that big a douche then there isnt all that much I can do about it.

Indeed, thank you for trying though :)

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Min/Max 3.x / Re: Iaido + evasive martial fighter
« on: November 29, 2011, 05:47:25 AM »
Quote from: littha on November 29, 2011, 05:37:56 AM
That is basically it, OA samurai has better class skills though (Including Iaijutsu Focus)

As I mentioned a few posts up, I will have Iaijutsu Focus as a class skill from the start due to a homebrew rule. As much as I like the OA samurai class skill list, my DM remains adamant that CW overrules OA.

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Min/Max 3.x / Re: Iaido + evasive martial fighter
« on: November 29, 2011, 05:34:37 AM »
I would agree (and have when I DM'ed in the past), but that's not the way my DM sees it. According to him, CW overrides OA.

How would using OA samurai affect my feats? It seems to have bonus feats as fighter, from a more restricted list, with the level 1 bonus feat being replaced by a different class ability.

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Min/Max 3.x / Re: Iaido + evasive martial fighter
« on: November 29, 2011, 05:16:41 AM »
Quote from: littha on November 29, 2011, 04:48:50 AM
With the feats you are taking it would be much better to use the OA samurai

One of the stipulations for me using OA is that if a 3.5 sourcebook has an updated version of something, that's the version I have to use. We all know how amazing the CW samurai is :(

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Min/Max 3.x / Re: Iaido + evasive martial fighter
« on: November 29, 2011, 04:16:23 AM »
Quote from: Gavinfoxx on November 28, 2011, 06:42:36 PM
Dragon Magazine 318 updates Oriental Adventures to 3.5e.

Passed this on to my DM, and he approved Iaijutsu Master, so I'll go with that. Factotum however is a no-go for some reason, I think it's because he hasn't read Dungeonscape.

Human
1: Fighter 1 (Dodge, Exotic Weapon Proficiency (katana), Quick Draw)
2: Fighter 2 (Weapon Focus (katana))
3: Fighter 3 (Improved Initiative)
4: Fighter 4 (Mobility)
5: Fighter 5
6: Fighter 6 (Spring Attack, Flick of the Wrist?)
7: Iaijutsu Master 1
8: IM 2
9: IM 3 (Improved Critical/Acrobatic Strike?)
10: IM 4 (Power Critical?)

Assuming that fighter is the best way to go into Iaijutsu master. Taking IM until 10, then scout for skirmish/spring attack synergy?

Obviously I'll need some way to catch my target flat-footed for Iaijutsu Focus. Aside from winning initiative and Blurstrike weapons, is there a (semi)-reliable way of doing this? My DM may allow me to have Flick of the Wrist apply to the katana here because it thematically fits. We also have a system in place to allow me to have Iaijutsu Focus as a class skill for my Fighter levels.

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Min/Max 3.x / Re: Iaido + evasive martial fighter
« on: November 28, 2011, 09:21:40 AM »
Quote from: Vicerious on November 28, 2011, 09:14:38 AM
A swordsage with a focus in Diamond Mind (big single strikes) and Shadow Hand (teleports, miss chance) maneuvers would have all of that covered, I think.

I was afraid ToB would be the answer. I'll see if I can convince my DM to allow it then (usually we can snag feats or what have you from it, but it can take convincing to take classes from it)

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Min/Max 3.x / Re: Iaido + evasive martial fighter
« on: November 28, 2011, 09:08:39 AM »
Quote from: Mixster on November 28, 2011, 08:24:51 AM
Factotum into Iaijutsu master seems to be what this guy is doing.

Unfortunately, my DM says OA is not allowed as "it is not 3.5". Thanks for the suggestion though.

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Min/Max 3.x / Iaido + evasive martial fighter
« on: November 28, 2011, 06:44:28 AM »
I would like to play some kind of martial character for my group's next campaign, and while playing some good old DMC3 I thought of Vergil's distinct combat style. I usually end up playing some kind of arcane caster due to other roles being snapped up rather quickly, so I don't have too much experience with martial characters. All core and splatbooks are allowed, but I have to run anything from ToB by my DM first. Edit: ToB is not allowed

Vergil's style: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPbDPgOnh84&feature=related
The important bits are his katana moves (0:39-1:20) and his teleports (2:20-2:57). Used together (3:46-4:16).

Actually teleporting around the enemy may be hard to do; I would just like to preserve his mobile/evasive style.

I was considering a fighter/scout build, using the Elusive Attack and Overpowering Attack features from PHB2.

Something like this:

Human
1: Fighter 1 (Dodge, Exotic Weapon Proficiency (katana), Weapon Finesse)
2: Fighter 2 (Mobility)
3: Scout 1 (Power Attack)
4: Fighter 3
5: Fighter 4 (Spring Attack)
6: Scout 2 (Weapon Focus (katana))
7: Scout 3
8: Fighter 5
9: Fighter 6 [Elusive Attack], (Improved Critical)
10: Scout 4

In combat he would depend on strong single hits via Spring Attack + Skirmish + Overpowering Attack + criticals. The main problem here is that Overwhelming Attack doesn't come until fighter 16, and starting level will most likely be 3-6, and not higher than 10.

Any suggestions?

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Introduce Yourself / Ohai
« on: November 28, 2011, 05:16:03 AM »
Belvaleth here, mainly play 3.5, been playing for about 6 years now. When I'm not playing D&D I'm working on my education degree (3rd year) or partying like the university student I am. I'm usually stuck playing an arcane caster and would like to get some inspiration for some new builds.

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