Min/Max Boards

I looked up the sword sage and he does look pretty close to what I was thinking of.

A couple things.

1) rather than light armor and melee weapons
--no melee weapons or armor but get monks ua attacks (includinf flurry), ac bonus and movement?

2)change the sense magic to only sensing items that he can use

3) change the lvl 20 specials to lvl 18 so a Drow can get them (no lvl 20 due to +2 la)

Sound reasonable?

Thanks guys,

This is the angle Im leaning towards.

The players will be part of a lesser house. The Matron had a relationship with a Dragon and thus the half breed. She hid the fact of his birth from the other family members and outsisders and rasied him in secret adding a 3rd son to the house (technically). Because she did this so well etc Lolth is pleased with the matrons deviousness. I think the elder male will be murdered thus leaving only the two male players as House males.

There is talk of a rival House gathering power to attack her House. The Matron is now ready to make a move so she has introduced the half breed to her family (not admitting to him being a sibling) and is sending them to make a pact with the Dragon for aid.
The Dragon will offer aid if proper preparations are made (I havent figured that all out yet).
I thought part of the prearations would be to clear an Underdark route to their Houses compound from a tunnel near the Dragons lair. I thought a Black Dragon may be a good choice as a moat type defence for the House may be interesting. Also having the compound of the House being floodable would be interesting. Also the tunnel that they are clearing out could be partially submerged thus aiding to the Dragons aquatic natuture and making life more difficult for others.

I am open to other Dragon ideas though. I thought a Deep Dragon would be a good choice too. having humanoid forms plus swim and burrow skills is very versatile. I know a Fang Dragon is CN in alignment but I thought given good reasons of self preservation (and a Fang not normally being in the Underdark) might be a good enough reason for careful cooperation.

Oh, the wyrmling will be more of a NpC. It will cause trouble but also help. It is the runt of the litter and thus has damaged wings. The wyrmling is actually extremely powerful and once its wings heal could be a powerful asset for the House in the centuries to come. In truth starting out it will be more of an annoyance for the players but will test their patience and obedience to their Matron. It will also repeat (often) how anything he sees that he doesnt like will be reported to the matron. Whether he does this or not will reply on how well he is adored by those around him.

This will be a fresh campaign in one of the cities of Undrek'Thoz.

Im also looking at making a varient monk class suitabe for Drow. In the Underdark book they say Undrek'Thoz actually have an assasination order of Monks called the Black Fist (they coat their right hands in something dark). For this class I was thinking of a mix of Blackgruard, Monks of the Long Death. I also thought a shadow form ability with them actually becoming Shades at lvl 20 would be very Drow. I see them inadvertantly worshiping Bane or even Bhaal though they dont know it.

I also just looked up Deepwyrm Drow. I think the Nobles will be Deepwyrm Drow if they so choose. The Deep Dragon idea is starting to grab my interest more and more lol

Well, what do you think?

Thanks for all the suggestions and tips guys.

For alignment Im leaning towards CN.

As for liking him, yeah I do lol.

This is a new group of players so what Im doing is making two NpC's that after the initial (short) adventure they can choose to invite to help on quests or now.
If they feel they need raw power they will most probably chose this guy.

The other NpC that Im introducing with Creed is a beautiful female Wild elf that had half her face ripped off by zombies. She is a rogue when the event takes place but soon pledges herself to Shevrash (the elven god of vengeance) and will end up a Skull hunter.

Hassliche Narbe, wild elf rogue
S  16
I  10
W 16
C  18 
D  19
Cha 8 (due to terrible scaring and anger)

The whole adventure will be based around undead.

I figured this way the players could lean on different NpC's as they see fit. If the meeting goes bad they may not even let any of these out of their prisons so perhaps these two will end up being enemies rather than quasi friends.

We shall see what happens based on the players interactions and decisions.

Im starting a 3.3 undead campaign. Most of the enemies will be undead but one of the main NpCs will be a rogue skull hunter. For race Im leaning towards Gnoll. Any ideas on the proper build and feats for a Gnoll thief/cleric/skull hunter?

If you think theres a better monstrous race for this idea Im open to suggestions.

Thx

I also thought how could I change the weretiger template to not allow a human or animal form but only have one form, the hybrid.
That would certainly look and feel like Sabretooth. So he would get stats and abilities but not the other forms. What whould the ECL be without the other forms? +2 ecl rather than+3?

Ive been playing DnD since I was 10 or so and thats a good 35 years of travelled road. I use to be on top of things but over the last 5 years my knowledge has really slipped. Im here to try and get my head on straight