Swift actions as Standard

[NunoM]

When a character uses an immediate action, the swift action for the round is done... ok...
Can that character activate a swift action item (ex.: "Anklets of Translocation") as a standard action instead?

[kitep]

There was a recent discussion about this, and IIRC the answer is "no".   You can use a full round to do a standard, you can use a standard to do a move, but you can't use full/standard/move to do a swift.

Recent thread: Actions In Combat

[NunoM]

I had a feeling this came up somewhere, but couldn't recall where, thanks...

That being said... not cool!

I'll try to include a houserule in which one could perform a faster action as a slower one. A standard as a full-round, a swift as move (or standard), etc.
Otherwise, this can hamper or negate the use of some valid resources by the players... That doesn't seem fair to me.

Example: a wizard that prepared a quickened "Dimension Door" spell to escape battle and happened to perform an immediate action, would be denied the use of that spell, even if he opted for casting it as a normal one (losing the slot he prepared the spell on, even if higher due to the metamagic modification).

[kitep]

Yeah, time-wise it doesn't make sense.  But I think WOTC tried to "balance" a lot of stuff based on only getting 1 swift action per turn.  Allowing more may have unintentional consequences.  But I say go for it and see what happens.

[linklord231]

Yeah, time-wise it doesn't make sense.  But I think WOTC tried to "balance" a lot of stuff based on only getting 1 swift action per turn.  Allowing more may have unintentional consequences.  But I say go for it and see what happens.

This is one of the reasons that Ruby Knights Vindicator are considered so powerful. 

[NunoM]

Yeah, time-wise it doesn't make sense.  But I think WOTC tried to "balance" a lot of stuff based on only getting 1 swift action per turn.  Allowing more may have unintentional consequences.  But I say go for it and see what happens.

Just to clarify my point: I'm not saying the swift action would remain as a swift action. For example, if i wanted to activate "Anklets of Translocation" (swift action) in the round following an immediate action, that would instead take a move action, with all the risks involved (ex.: possible AoOs).