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Red Avenger from Sword and Fist
« on: March 16, 2014, 07:30:52 PM »
So here is the Prestige class. Bear in Mind that it is 3.0 material and that I am not fully aware of the differences between it and 3.5.
Red Avenger
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I am mostly curious about the Free Ki ability  Does this ability allow the Red Avenger to add double their Wisdom to each of their class features. For instance, would stunning shout have a DC of 15 + Wisdom modifier x2?
And how does it interact with Monk class features such as Ki strike, or any other class that uses Ki?
I think it is safe to assume that the intent was to be only Red Avenger Class features, but Free Ki does state any class ability.

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Re: Red Avenger from Sword and Fist
« Reply #1 on: March 16, 2014, 09:32:42 PM »
I would rule yes on the doubled DC, and no on it affecting other classes, but I can see how the RAW argument could go there. I tend to treat a prestige class saying "class ability" as only affecting class abilities for that prestige class, unless specifically intended otherwise.

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Re: Red Avenger from Sword and Fist
« Reply #2 on: March 16, 2014, 09:42:32 PM »
It says "any class ability that is imbued with ki..."  Yes, it's safest to only say it's meant for Red Avenger abilities since the context leans on that incredibly heavily, but the wording is such that it could be abused for other purposes (especially monk and CAd ninja).

As far as its actual interactions go, since it says "you may add double your Wisdom bonus" I'd be inclined to say it'd work on stuff that did indeed originally add it such as the save DC for Stunning Shout or the damage and save DC for Deadly shout.  However, since the Ki Healing ability is a multiple of the Wisdom mod, it's not strictly affected since it's not an addition.

Come to look at other stuff, perhaps that Ki Healing ability is the precursor to the Karmic Healing feat for CAd ninjas.