Gaining Psywar powers as an Erudite?

[ZombieGirl]

So, from a quick look on google, it seems the only ways to get PsyWar powers is either EK or Research. EK however seems unreliable since there is the argument that, upon Psy Ref'ing out EK, you would then be unable to add any power gems with psychic warrior powers to your repertoire, due to it not being a psion or discipline power. Alternatively, Researching such powers just isnt practical especially in early game, for an StP erudite.

So with that being said, i've been wondering if the feat Chameleon Crafting from Dragon Magazine #349 would bypass the limitation of erudites not being able to learn psywar powers?

As an example...

Assuming main character is an erudite/thrallherd:

Thrall 1 is Archivist x with Chameleon Crafting + imprint stone, scribe scroll, southern magician and whatever other feats necessary for this to work

1) Archivist x crafts a spell scroll or whatever equivalent to powerstone is for the archivist, and has a psywar manifest a power during its creation, thus creating say, a "Claws of the Beast scroll".

2) Archivist could then commit it to their spell list, essentially giving them a divine claws of the beast spell.

3) Archivist then creates a new scroll with the same power, in spell form this time, using southern magician to create an arcane claws of the beast scroll, which i assume can then be used by the Erudite to convert it back into a psionic power via StP?

Though the question would then be, could the erudite add it to their repertoire due to it being an arcane spell? or would it regain its category as a PsyWar power upon being converted back to a psychic power?

Frankly i have no idea what kind of scroll would come out of step 1, whether it be divine or arcane. If we could say it comes out as arcane then step 2/3 wouldn't be necessary i suppose. Is there anything about this that im misunderstanding?

-thanks in advance.

PS. Reason why i use archivist is to also do the same thing with cleric/druid/bard/whatever else divine spells exist. But maybe i dont fully understand the whole conversion process involving StP

[awaken_D_M_golem]

You're up against a bunch of un-clarified stuff.
Erudite has lots of rai/raw negotiating points.

Take the repertoire --- does it work like the
Wizard spellbook / Archivist prayerbook,
so it'd be once in the repertoire = always in the repertoire
or does it have an extra cost like:  you know a "spell"(power)
now you make a "scroll"(powerstone) out of it,
then retrain/psyref the known spell, next copy that
old spell from the scroll into you "spellbook"(repertoire) ??
 
The one is about as powerful and similar to a Wizard,
the other is significantly more expensive than Wizard.

Chameleon Crafting from Dr#349 is yummy cheese ... 

Mind's Eye has some acfs for the Erudite.
Magic Mantled version could get lots of PsyWar powers.

The Discipline Erudite variant can do what you're describing
with your Archivist examples 1, 2 and 3.  But it can only do it
with One discipline.  That is, directly from Divine to Psi.

Archivist bippies* divine things over to a Wizard.
(* bippie is a technical term)  I'm not an Archivist guy
so I can't say what alls involved in Div/Arc transfer.
Wizard then is accessible to Spell To Power Erudite.
Yeah, that's how that happens.

[ZombieGirl]

Thank you as always for the response no idea what bippies means hehe. But the rest of your post makes sense. Admittedly, considering how Erudites function thematically, i'm one to side with those deciding that an Erudite's repertoire acts as their spellbook, considering they can show it to other psionic characters to trade powers and what not (which is identical to what the wizard can do as well). Thematically the two differ, but the base function of both remain the same in my eyes.

As far as mantle and discipline ACFs go, i can definitely see that working, although im not so sure id be willing to part with StP and all the goodies that could bring over a mantle or discipline access XD Although i hear the mantle can be just as good, im not too familiar with it :\

From what i know though archivists act more or less identically to wizards, only they deal with the divine, so i would at least assume the ability to cast said divine spells as arcane would be enough to cut the wizard out of the picture and just churn out arcane scroll versions of divine spells for StP Erudites to make use of. Ah well, guess ill have to chalk this up to yet another topic amongst the millions i have reserved to discuss with my GM hehehe. Thanks again for the help <3