Charge while flying

[dumah87]

Is it possible? If yes, may I use feats as Leap Attack?
Thank you all

[Risada]

Yes, you may charge while flying.

No, I don't think you can jump while flying. However, all other charge feats (Shocktrooper, Combat Brute, etc...) are usable normally.

[Mooncrow]

The rules are just slightly different for a charge while flying - you have to move at least 30 feet and descend at least 10 feet. 

[X-Codes]

The rules are just slightly different for a charge while flying - you have to move at least 30 feet and descend at least 10 feet.

No, that's a diving charge, which lets you inflict double damage with any piercing weapon.

You can also charge normally, which just requires the usual 10' of movement, but doesn't give double damage with piercing weapons.

[Mooncrow]

Flying during a Charge
A creature that flies can make dive attacks. A dive attack
works just like a charge, but the diving creature must move a
minimum of 30 feet and descend at least 10 feet.

Just going by what the Rules Compendium charging section says.  It sounds like there are other sources for flying/charging rules though?

[Vicerious]

The rules for a dive attack usually appear in the stat blocks of creatures that can fly. Check out the entries for raptorans (Races of the Wild) and dragonborn of Bahamut (Races of the Dragon).

[Prime32]

A creature that flies can make dive attacks. A dive attack works just like a charge, but the diving creature must move a minimum of 30 feet and descend at least 10 feet. It can make only claw or talon attacks, but these deal double damage. A creature can use the run action while flying, provided it flies in a straight line.

[X-Codes]

That doesn't seem to forbid flying creatures from taking the standard Charge action in flight, though...

Odd...

[dumah87]

I've read "fly" spell.

It states that while descending your speed is doubled.

"(...) The subject can fly at a speed of 60 feet (or 40 feet if it wears medium or heavy armor, or if it carries a medium or heavy load). It can ascend at half speed and descend at double speed, and its maneuverability is good (...)"


Is this a senteces ( In your opinion ) which can accord a player to charghe while flying?

[Sjappo]

I know this is RAI not RAW but ...

A charge supposes that you run. You can move double your speed (or running during your move fase) and attack (standard action). This is normally not possible since running is a full-round action.

You cannot run while flying. But diving has the same effect, doubling your speed.

Combining that would require a 10 ft dive for a flying charge. I cannot explain the other 20 ft that is required.

I'd rule against a normal charge while flying. My 2 cp.

[Vicerious]

A charge action has nothing to do with the run action.  Running is a full-round action where you move 4 times your speed (3 times for heavy armor, 5 times with the Run feat).  Charging is a special attack action that allows you to move up to twice your speed and then make an attack.

Charging makes no reference to running, or even being on the ground.  Swimming creatures can charge.  Nothing says flying creatures can't charge, so they can.  Flying creatures also have the additional option of making a dive attack, which is like a charge with some extra requirements and benefits.

I've read "fly" spell.

It states that while descending your speed is doubled.

(I know I'm using 3.5 links instead of PF, but the d20srd is much easier to link to and the wording is the same anyway.)

"(...) The subject can fly at a speed of 60 feet (or 40 feet if it wears medium or heavy armor, or if it carries a medium or heavy load). It can ascend at half speed and descend at double speed, and its maneuverability is good (...)"


Is this a senteces ( In your opinion ) which can accord a player to charghe while flying?

This is irrelevant to charging.  Those are changes to your speed, which is a stat.  Charging is an action where you move twice your speed.  Getting your speed doubled is not the same thing as charging twice your speed.

(I know the topic is PF, but d20srd.org is much easier to link to and the wording is the same anyway.)