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Re: No spellcasters, and we're all going insane...
« Reply #40 on: February 14, 2015, 12:55:12 AM »
Does the divine bard varient in unearthed arcana have calm emotions?

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Re: No spellcasters, and we're all going insane...
« Reply #41 on: February 14, 2015, 01:23:08 AM »
Yes, Divine Bard keeps all the regular Bard spells and then adds a few more.

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Re: No spellcasters, and we're all going insane...
« Reply #42 on: February 14, 2015, 01:39:52 AM »
eeexcellent

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Re: No spellcasters, and we're all going insane...
« Reply #43 on: February 14, 2015, 12:11:52 PM »
 :lmao
Ok, while all that would be fun, he doesn't want things that will completely circumvent the sanity rules. As in, work with them, not work around them.
He'd probably go for Hustle in Time Mantle, which in turn could make a great Dominant Ideal.

In that case I can ask for these as my mantles:
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And this build after the changes:
Kalashtar
Ardent 1 - Time Mantle, Life Mantle, Psicrystal Affinity
Ardent 2 - Creation Mantle
Ardent 3 - Expanded Knowledge (Share Pain)
Ardent 4
Ardent 5 - Fate Mantle
Ardent 6 - Pisonic Meditation
Ardent 7
Ardent 8
Ardent 9 - Linked Power
Ardent 10 - Dominant Ideal
Ardent 11
Sanctified Mind 1 - Boost Construct
Sanctified Mind 2
Sanctified Mind 3
Sanctified Mind 4 - Quicken Power
Sanctified Mind 5
Sanctified Mind 6
Ardent 12 - ???
Arden 13
Ardent 14

How's that look?
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Re: No spellcasters, and we're all going insane...
« Reply #44 on: February 17, 2015, 11:58:01 AM »
Non 9th level spellcasters:
Adept
Bard
Duskblade
Hexblade
Magewright
Paladin
Ranger
Sohei
Spellthief

Also....

Animal Lord (3.0 Only)   Divine (Prep)   Wis   x1   5   -   1   3   5   7   -   -   -   -   -   Animal Lord
Assassin   Arcane (Spont)   Int   x1   5   -   1   3   5   7   -   -   -   -   -   Assassin
Beloved of Valaria   Divine (Prep)   Wis   x1   7   -   1   3   5   7   -   -   -   -   -   Beloved of Valaria
Blackguard   Divine (Prep)   Wis   x1   6   -   1   3   5   7   -   -   -   -   -   Blackguard
Bone Collector   Divine (Prep)   Wis   x1   5   -   1   2   4   -   -   -   -   -   -   Bone Collector
Celebrant of Sharess   Arcane (Spont)   Cha   x1   4   -   1   3   5   7   -   -   -   -   -   Celebrant of Sharess
Chameleon   Arc/Div (Prep)   I/W   x1   5   1   1   1   3   5   7   9   -   -   -   Cleric, Wizard, Sor/Wiz
Champion of Gwynharwyf   Divine (Prep)   Wis   x1   6   -   1   3   5   7   -   -   -   -   -   Champion of Gwynharwyf
Consecrated Harrier   Divine (Prep)   Wis   x1   5   -   1   3   5   7   -   -   -   -   -   Consecrated Harrier, Ranger
Corrupt Avenger   Arcane (Prep)   Cha   x1   5   -   1   3   5   7   -   -   -   -   -   Corrupt Avenger
Court Herald   Arcane (Spont)   Cha   x1   7   1   1   3   5   7   9   11   -   -   -   Court Herald
Cultist of the Shattered Peak   Arcane (Prep)   Int   x1   5   -   1   3   5   -   -   -   -   -   -   Sor/Wiz (Abjur, Ench Only)
Death Delver   Divine (Prep)   Wis   x1   5   -   1   3   5   7   -   -   -   -   -   Death Delver
Demonologist   Arcane (Spont)   Cha   x1   5   -   1   2   3   4   -   -   -   -   -   Demonologist
Disciple of Thrym   Divine (Prep)   Wis   x1   5   -   1   3   5   7   9   -   -   -   -   Disciple of Thrym
Ebonmar Infiltrator   Arcane (Prep)   Int   x1   5   -   1   3   5   7   -   -   -   -   -   Ebonmar Infiltrator
Emissaries of Barachiel   Divine (Spont)   Cha   x1   5   -   1   3   5   7   -   -   -   -   -   Emissaries of Barachiel
Fatemaker   Arcane (Spont)   Cha   x1   5   -   1   3   5   7   -   -   -   -   -   Fatemaker
Fiend of Blasphemy   Divine (Prep)   Wis   x1   7   -   1   2   3   4   5   -   -   -   -   Fiend of Blasphemy, Cleric Domains
Harper Scout   Arcane (Spont)   Cha   x1   5   -   1   3   5   -   -   -   -   -   -   Harper Scout
Hoardstealer   Arcane (Prep)   Int   x1   5   -   1   3   5   7   -   -   -   -   -   Hoardstealer
Holy Liberator   Divine (Prep)   Wis   x1   5   -   1   3   5   7   -   -   -   -   -   Holy Liberator, Paladin (Remove Lawful Spells)
Hunter of the Dead   Divine (Prep)   Wis   x1   5   -   1   3   5   7   -   -   -   -   -   Hunter of the Dead
Justicar of Taiia   Divine (Prep)   Wis   x1   4   -   1   3   5   7   -   -   -   -   -   Justicar of Taiia
Justice of Weald and Woe   Divine (Spont)   Wis   x1   6   -   1   3   5   7   -   -   -   -   -   Justice of Weald and Woe
Knight of the Chalice   Divine (Prep)   Wis   x1   8   -   1   3   5   7   -   -   -   -   -   Knight of the Chalice
Knight of the Middle Circle   Divine (Prep)   Wis   x1/2   6   -   1   5   8   -   -   -   -   -   -   Knight of the Middle Circle
Knight of the Weave   Divine (Spont)   Cha   x1   5   -   1   3   5   6   7   8   -   -   -   Knight of the Weave
Merchant Prince   Arcane (Prep)   Int   x1   5   -   1   3   5   -   -   -   -   -   -   Merchant Prince
Mortal Hunter   Arcane (Spont)   Cha   x1   5   -   1   3   5   7   -   -   -   -   -   Mortal Hunter
Nar Demonbinder   Arcane (Spont)   Cha   x1   7   -   -   -   -   1   1   3   5   7   -   Nar Demonbinder
Nentyar Hunter   Divine (Prep)   Wis   x1   5   -   1   2   3   4   5   -   -   -   -   Nentyar Hunter
Ocular Adept   Divine (Prep)   Wis   x1   5   1   3   5   7   9   -   -   -   -   -   Cleric, [Evil, Hatred, Law, Strength, OR Tyranny Domain]
Pious Templar   Divine (Prep)   Wis   x1   5   -   1   3   5   7   -   -   -   -   -   [Blackguard OR Paladin]
Prime Underdark Guide   Arcane (Prep)   Int   x1   5   -   1   3   5   7   -   -   -   -   -   Prime Underdark Guide
Runescarred Berserker   Divine (Prep)   Wis   x1   7   -   1   3   5   7   9   -   -   -   -   Runescarred Berserker
Scaled Horror   Divine (Prep)   Wis   x1   5   -   1   3   5   7   -   -   -   -   -   Ranger
Shade Hunter   Divine (Spont)   Int   x1   5   -   1   3   5   7   -   -   -   -   -   Shade Hunter
Slayer of Domiel   Divine (Prep)   Wis   x1   5   -   1   3   5   7   -   -   -   -   -   Slayer of Domiel
Soldier of Light   Divine (Prep)   Wis   x1   5   -   1   3   5   7   -   -   -   -   -   Soldier of Light
Suel Arcanamach   Arcane (Spont)   Cha   x1   6   -   1   2   4   6   8   -   -   -   -   Sor/Wiz (Abjur, Div, Illus, Trans Only)
Telflammar Shadowlord   Arcane (Prep)   Int   x1   7   -   1   3   5   -   -   -   -   -   -   Telflammar Shadowlord
Templar   Divine (Prep)   Wis   x1   5   -   1   3   5   7   -   -   -   -   -   Templar
Temple Raider   Divine (Prep)   Wis   x1   5   -   1   3   5   7   -   -   -   -   -   Temple Raider
Thayan Slaver   Arcane (Prep)   Int   x1   7   -   1   3   5   7   -   -   -   -   -   Thayan Slaver
Trapsmith   Arcane (Spont)   Int   x1   5   -   1   3   5   -   -   -   -   -   -   Trapsmith
Vadalis Beastkeeper   Divine (Prep)   Wis   x1   4   -   1   4   7   10   -   -   -   -   -   Vadalis Beastkeeper
Vassals of Bahamut   Divine (Prep)   Wis   x1   7   -   1   3   5   7   -   -   -   -   -   Vassals of Bahamut
Vigilante   Arcane (Spont)   Cha   x1   5   -   1   3   5   7   -   -   -   -   -   Vigilante
Windrider   Divine (Prep)   Wis   x1   5   -   1   3   5   7   -   -   -   -   -   Windrider


So, the winners for our list are...
8th level spells:
Nar Demonbinder

6th level spells:
Court Herald
Chameleon
Knight of the Weave
Bard

5th level spells:
Fiend of Blasphemy
Nentyar Hunter
Suel Arcanamach
Disciple of Thrym
Runescarred Berserker
Duskblade
Adept
Magewright


Bold is base class

Hope that helps. The complete breakdowns of spell lists are available in the EVD is the Spell section.
If you have questions about 3.5 D&D, you might want to look at the:
Encyclopedia Vinculum Draconis

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Re: No spellcasters, and we're all going insane...
« Reply #45 on: February 17, 2015, 11:59:35 AM »
You know, I always liked Suel Arcanamach. It just has a cool theme. Go with that. It's got style.
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Re: No spellcasters, and we're all going insane...
« Reply #46 on: February 23, 2015, 02:42:14 PM »
Final update: DM decided that he wanted a lower than "normal" power level, and nothing that alters the action economy: No hustle, no linked power, no White Raven Tactics ffs.

Another build to toss in the ever-growing pile of things I'll never get to play.

It's all good though. Now I'm playing Truenamer 20.

Thanks for all the advice everyone. You guys are the best, as always.
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Re: No spellcasters, and we're all going insane...
« Reply #47 on: February 23, 2015, 05:56:26 PM »
Things must be desperate if you're playing Truenamer...  Are there any houserules to make it playable?

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Re: No spellcasters, and we're all going insane...
« Reply #48 on: February 23, 2015, 08:43:58 PM »
Plenty, all the ones he already listed!     :drums

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Re: No spellcasters, and we're all going insane...
« Reply #49 on: February 25, 2015, 11:07:08 AM »
Things must be desperate if you're playing Truenamer...  Are there any houserules to make it playable?

Oh yeah. Item Familiar. Paragnostic Assembly. Custom competence item stacking with amulet of silver tongues.

It will be fun.
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Re: No spellcasters, and we're all going insane...
« Reply #50 on: March 10, 2015, 04:17:56 AM »
:witsend What would you play under those rules?


A different game.