Solid Build (Not Broken) V2.0 Sorcerer type

[Nifft]

Nifty,

"Sorceror-type" =/= Sorceror Class

Wizards are not even close to "Sorcerer-type", so discussing them isn't going to be on-topic for this thread.

Or are you trying to criticize me for talking about Beguilers? But you would seem to be supporting that.

lol, what? They at least have the same spell list!

OK... the OP asked about sorcerers. You suggested a different class, then jumped all over me for suggesting yet another class? 

Are you seriously confused about this?

Son, the person who suggested Beguiler was stanprollyright.

Would it kill you to try to read the damn thread before throwing a tantrum in it?

[phaedrusxy]

I'm not throwing a tantrum. I'm actually pretty amused by the whole thing, and entirely not taking it seriously.

[Nifft]

I'm not throwing a tantrum. I'm actually pretty amused by the whole thing, and entirely not taking it seriously.

You're amused by the fact that you add nothing to the thread, but you do manage to distract productive people into your pointless arguments?

Low personal standards are low.

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Anyway, moving back on topic ... @Kikkenass:

- Decide if you want to play a Sorcerer, or a Sorcerer-like class.

- Figure out if you really need to cover the Rogue role. It's better if you don't, but the combo can work with effort.

- If you do, then figure out why your DM or the other player think a Beguiler would be incompatible with a Paladin. Beguiler is a fairly decent substitute for being both a Rogue and a Sorcerer.

[Kikkenass]

Man, you don't check a thread for a few days and all hell breaks loose lol

OK

So I decided to just go straight Sorcerer 13 for now. It seemed to be the simplest solution and since this is my first time making a true spell caster I figured simple is good.

I looked more into the Beguiler and the Ultimate Magus (DM's Suggestion as well) but ultimately went with the straight sorcerer.

And yes I am stupid new to Character Optimization. So I really don't know my MAD from a portable hole. (ok maybe not that bad) But I am grateful to everyone of you who actually took the time to reply. No matter how off topic.

So here is where I am at. Straight Sorcerer with decent stats and most of my spells are "utility" vs glass canon.

Going forward I need to look into ways of being less squishy.

+2 Mithril Buckler of Moderate Fortification was at the top of my list but of course the DM nerfed that. He believes fortification shouldn't be able to be put on something the size of a dinner plate, armor yes but not a buckler or small shield. Makes sense I guess so I am not going to push it.

I have the Greater Mage Armor spell in my list so I can use that but one good dispel and I am goo again.

What equipment/gear can you recommend to help make me less likely to die due to a strong breeze.

MIC is allowed so I am good there. I have a purchase cap of 27500 gp on any one piece (since I am starting a new character)

Thanks again everyone for the suggestions and support.

 

[faeryn]

Bracers of AC +8... basically gives you a non-dispellable Improved Mage Armor AC wise...

[nijineko]

personally, when i had cause to be playing a sorcerer character for some reason, i usually went with the battle sorcerer variant. from unearthed arcana, i believe.

however, a beholder mage is the kind of casting class i would really prefer to play - having to be a beholder is a bit of a challenge though.

[Kikkenass]

Bracers of AC +8... basically gives you a non-dispellable Improved Mage Armor AC wise...

That would be ideal yes but they are also 64000 gp and my single item limit is 27500 gp since I am making a new character straight to 13th. So best I could get would be +5. Still nothing to shake a stick at but I can't help but wonder if that gold couldn't be better placed on a different magic item. Greater Mage Armor gives me a +6 to AC but can be dispelled.

[Kikkenass]

personally, when i had cause to be playing a sorcerer character for some reason, i usually went with the battle sorcerer variant. from unearthed arcana, i believe.

however, a beholder mage is the kind of casting class i would really prefer to play - having to be a beholder is a bit of a challenge though.

Beholder would be fun but my DM would immediately say, "Not just no but HELL NO" lol

[faeryn]

Bracers of AC+5 will still be good for starting out. So at the very least keep them on the back burner.

A 1level dip into monk or ninja with carmadine monk feat to set monk AC to use int and picking up a monks belt would also work (not sure if it's in the price range, don't have my books I front of me ATM)

If you can afford both they should stack.

[nijineko]

personally, when i had cause to be playing a sorcerer character for some reason, i usually went with the battle sorcerer variant. from unearthed arcana, i believe.

however, a beholder mage is the kind of casting class i would really prefer to play - having to be a beholder is a bit of a challenge though.

Beholder would be fun but my DM would immediately say, "Not just no but HELL NO" lol

yeah, i really wish i could play the class without having to be a beholder. maybe a home-brew tweak or something.

also, did you check out the battle sorcerer variant?

[Solo]

What equipment/gear can you recommend to help make me less likely to die due to a strong breeze.

Cast Alter Self, turn into a troglodyte or a Tren.

[phaedrusxy]

What equipment/gear can you recommend to help make me less likely to die due to a strong breeze.

AC only goes so far. Defenses that let you reactively get the hell out of harm's way are more reliable, I think. Along these lines, the  Shadow Cloak is ridiculously awesome (from Defenders of the Underdark, for 5500 gp). So is the Wings of Cover spell, and of course Celerity. Things that add miss chances are also great, including spells like blur, (Greater) Mirror Image and Instant Diversion.

[Endarire]

Simple answer: Sorcerer6/Incantatrix to max/Whatever gives full casting.  You get more metamagic feats that way, plus more!