Arrow Demon

[~Corvus~]

Arrow Demon

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Arrow Demon: from 3.5 Monster Manual 3, pg34
Medium Outsider (Chaotic, Evil , Extraplanar , Tanar ’ri)
Hit Dice: 10d8+90 (135 hp)
Initiative: +4
Speed: 40 ft. (8 squares)
Armor Class: 19 (+4 Dex, +5 natural), touch 14, flatfooted 15
Base Attack/Grapple: +10/+15
Attack: 2 Large +1 composite longbows (+5 Str bonus) +14/+14
ranged (2d6+6/×3) or claw +15 melee (1d6+5)
Full Attack: 2 Large +1 composite longbows (+5 Str bonus) +14/+14/+9/+9 ranged (2d6+6/×3) or 4 claws +15 melee
(1d6+5)
Space/Reach: 5 ft./5 ft.
Special Attacks: Close combat shot, oversized weapons, symmetrical archery
Spell-like abilities: summon tanar’ri,
Special Qualities: Damage reduction 5/cold iron and good, darkvision 60 ft., immunity to electricity and poison, resistance to acid 10, cold 10, and fire 10, spell resistance 18, telepathy 100 ft.
Saves: Fort +16, Ref +11, Will +10
Abilities: Str 21, Dex 19, Con 29, Int 14, Wis 16, Cha 12
Skills: Balance +17, Bluff +14, Climb +18, Concentration +21, Hide +17, Jump +22, Listen +16, Move Silently +17, Sense Motive +16, Spot +16
Feats: Point Blank Shot, Precise Shot, Rapid Shot, Weapon Focus (longbow)
Environment: Infinite Layers of the Abyss
Organization: Solitary, pair, team (3–5), or squad (6–10)
Challenge Rating: 7
Treasure: Double standard (including 2 Large +1 composite longbows and arrows)
Alignment: Always chaotic evil
Advancement: 11–20 HD (Medium)
Level Adjustment: +8

Close Combat Shot (Ex): An arrow demon does not incur attacks of opportunity for firing a bow while threatened. In addition, the arrow demon can shoot its bows to make attacks of opportunity as if it threatened the squares adjacent to it with its bows.

Oversized Weapons (Ex): Arrow demons can use bows of any kind that are up to one size larger than their size would allow without penalty
Spell-Like Abilities: At will—dimension door (self plus 50 pounds of objects only). Caster level 10th.
Summon Tanar’ri (Sp): Once per day, an arrow demon can either automatically summon 1d6 dretches or attempt to summon another arrow demon with a 35% chance of success. This ability is the equivalent of a 4th level spell.

Symmetrical Archery (Ex): The arrow demon has an amazing ability to wield two bows at once in unison. Any time the arrow demon could make a single attack with a bow, it can attack with both of its bows, at –2 to all its attack rolls that round. For example, when making an attack action, an arrow demon can fi re one arrow from each bow at its normal attack bonus minus 2, and when making a full-attack action, it can fi re one arrow from each bow for each of its normal iterative attacks (two arrows from each bow, each shaft at a –2 penalty). The statistics block above already includes these bonuses. The arrow demon takes no additional penalties for using multiple weapons as long as it is using only bows.
Telepathy (Su): Arrow demons can communicate telepathically with any creature within 100 feet that has a language.

HD: d10

Level	Base Attack Bonus	Fort Save	Ref Save	Will Save	Special	Ability Score Increase
1st	+1	+2	+2	+0	Tanar'ri Body, Resistance, Arrow Works, Fiendish Archer, Symmetrical Archery (-2)	+1 Dex
2nd	+2	+3	+3	+0	Combat Archery, Uncanny Dodge, Summon Fiends	+1 Str
3rd	+3	+3	+3	+1	Arrows from Hell, Telepathy	+1 Dex
4th	+4	+4	+4	+1	Arrow Works (silver/cold iron/Adamantine), Symmetrical Archery (-1), Summon Fiends II	+1 Str
5th	+5	+4	+4	+1	Arrows from Hell, Dimension Door 1/day (objects only)	+1 Dex
6th	+6	+5	+5	+2	Spell Resistance, Volley, Summon Fiends III	+1 Str
7th	+7	+5	+5	+2	Arrows from Hell, Symmetrical Archery (-0), Oversized Weapons, Improved Summons	+1 Dex, +1 Str

Skills: Balance (Dex), Bluff (Cha), Climb (Dex), Craft (Int), Concentration (Con), Forgery (Int), Hide (Dex), Intimidate (Cha), Jump (Str), Knowledge (Religion), Listen (Wis), Move Silently (Dex), Spot (Wis), Use Magic Device (Cha)
Skill Points equal to 6+Int skills (*4 at 1st level)

Tanar'ri Body:The Arrow Demon is an Outsider with the demon subtype. It gains the following:

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• d10 HD: the Arrow Demon is more resilient than most of its kind.
• Medium-sized
• has a 30' movement speed
• Has Darkvision 60'
• Body & Soul are one. Death requires a Limited Wish, Wish, Miracle, or True Resurrection to restore it to life.
• Has two natural Claw attacks that deal 1d4 damage each.
• Has Natural Armor equal to 1/2 HD + Con modifier.
• Gains DR 1/Good & Cold Iron. This increases by 1 per 2 HD it has (2 at 2 HD, 3 at 4 HD, etc)
• Bonus equal to its HD against Poisons and Diseases.
• Needs to breathe, but does not need to eat or sleep.

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Weapons and Armor Proficiency: Gains proficiency with all Bows (including exotic bows), bastard sword, and no shields or armor. Furthermore, the Arrow Demon takes non-proficient penalties if attempting to dual-wield melee or double weapons, even if it (later) gains proficiency later, due to its strange anatomy.

Ability Score Improvement: The Arrow Demon gets a +1 to Dex at odd levels, a +1 to Str at even levels, and a +1 to Str at level 7 for a total of +4 Dex and +4 Str at level 7.

Resistance: The Arrow demon has Resistance to Acid, Cold, and Electricity equal to its HD. It becomes immune to Electricity at 10 HD.

Arrow Works (Ex): Arrow Demons can conjure arrows from the Inifinite layers of the Abyss. These arrows will not sell to vendors, as they simply resist the ability to be sold.
As a part of a ranged attack with a bow, it conjures arrows from which to fire. These arrows act as Masterwork Arrows, but are otherwise mundane.
 At 4th level, the Arrow Demon creates arrows as alchemical silver, Cold Iron, or adamantine.
 At 7th level, the Arrow Demon creates arrows of 1 or 2 alignments.
 At 10 HD, the Arrow Demon makes arrows that affect all alignments at maximum effect, are alchemical silver, Cold Iron, and Adamantine.

The Arrow Demon may also spend 1 minute and sacrifice 10 HP for 100 Blood-arrows,  feeding from the blood of its minions or even itself to create them; these arrows also gain an inherent +1 Magical bonus, which stacks with the Arrows from Hell ability.

Fiendish Archer (Ex): Arrow Demons add their Str to damage rolls with all bow and thrown attacks; this does not stack with other like abilities that add Str to damage.

Symmetrical Archery (Ex):The arrow demon's lopsided anatomy allows it to wield two bows in unison. Any time the arrow demon could make an attack action with a bow, it can instead attack with both of its bows, at –2 to all its attack rolls that round. For example, when making an attack action, an arrow demon can fire one arrow from each bow at its normal attack bonus minus 2, and when making a full-attack action, it can fire one arrow from each bow for each of its normal iterative attacks (all at -2). The arrow demon takes no additional penalties for using multiple weapons as long as it is using only bows.
At 4th level and again at 7th, this penalty decreases by 1.
This ability does not stack with Rapid Shot or any other archery feats that increase the number of attacks it can make.
The Arrow Demon does not gain more sets of attacks with additional arms/limbs; furthermore, it simply cannot dual-wield melee weapons.

Combat Archery (Ex): From 2nd level onwards, an arrow demon does not incur attacks of opportunity for firing a bow while threatened. In addition, the arrow demon can shoot its bows to make attacks of opportunity against adjacent squares.

Summon Fiends (Sp):Beginning at 2nd level, the Arrow Demon gains 1 use of Summon Fiends per Hit Die; these summons last 1 minute per HD.
At 2nd level, it may summon a Fiendish Small Spider or a Fiendish Sea Snake (stormwrack).
At 4th level, it may summon 1d3 fiendish Spiders/sea snakes or a Dretch.
At 6th level, it may summon 1d4+1 fiendish Spiders/sea snakes or 1d3 Dretch.
At 7 HD, these summons gain a +4 bonus to Constitution & gain a +1 enhancement bonus to attacks per 4 HD of the Arrow Demon.
At 13 HD, the Arrow Demon has a 30% chance to summon another 7-HD Arrow Demon (which cannot summon other fiends)

Uncanny Dodge (Ex): Beginning at 2nd level, the Arrow Demon can react to danger before their senses would normally allow them to do so. They retain their Dexterity bonus to AC even if caught flat-footed or struck by an invisible attacker. However, they still lose their Dexterity bonus to AC if immobilized.

Arrows from Hell:At 3 HD and every 2 HD onwards (5, 7, 9, etc) the Arrow Demon gains a benefit to apply to arrows it fires from its bows. These choices remain fixed.

• Magic (Su): Arrows shot by the Arrow Demon gain a +1 Enhancement bonus, +1 per 3 HD it has. This Enhancement bonus to arrows stacks with other like bonuses, such as from the Soulbow or the Arcane Archer's Enhancement bonus to arrows, but will not raise an arrow's flat bonus higher than +5 until 21 HD.
• Accuracy (Ex): It may ignore 10% concealment per HD it has with ranged attacks. At 5 HD, the Arrow Demon also gains the Blind Fight feat.
• Enchant (Su): Arrows with an Enhancement bonus of +2 or higher may have part of the bonus from its arrows swapped for an equivalent enchantment, but must keep at least a +1 enhancement bonus. (Thus, a +2 arrow may become a +1 Flaming arrow; a +3 arrow may become a +1 Phasing arrow, etc). This ability may only be chosen at level 5 and above.
  Enchantments must be chosen as a Move Action; this enchantment set will apply to all arrows until another Move Action is taken to change them.
• Force (Su): All Arrows shot by the Arrow Demon are considered Force Arrows (MiC 35). This ability may only be chosen at level 9 and above, and requires either Magic or Implacable as prerequisites.
• Implacable (Ex): Ranged Attacks made by the Arrow Demon ignores rain, wind and magical wind effects such as Wind Wall and Hurricane.
• Power (Ex): The Arrow Demon may add 1 damage to all arrows. This ability may be chosen multiple times; Every 6 levels (6, 12, 18, etc), this damage increases by 1 for each application

Telepathy (Su): Beginning at 3rd level, the Arrow Demon gains Telepathy out to 100'+10'/HD. This ability only functions if the Arrow Demon can perceive the recipient through other means. (They must be able to see, hear the target or otherwise know it is there.) It may choose to use its telepathy over it's entire available range as a broadcast. This allows its chosen thoughts to be heard by any creature in range, though the Arrow Demon cannot use this to determine if there is a creature in range.

Dimension Door (Sp): At 5th level the Arrow Demon gains the ability to use Dimension Door as a Spell-like Ability 1/day, and may carry up to 200# of objects only. At 11 HD, the Arrow Demon can use this ability 2/day as a Swift Action OR without the objects-only restriction. At 18 HD, it can use the ability 3/day as a Free Action and without the objects-only restriction.
Its Caster Level is equal to its HD.

Spell Resistance (Ex):At 6th level the Arrow Demon gains Spell Resistance equal to 12+its HD. This ability may be deactivated or re-activated as a free action, as desired.

Volley (Ex):When the Arrow Demon reaches 6th level, it gains incredible speed and accuracy. When it makes a full-round attack with ranged weapons, it gains a single extra attack at its highest BaB. Furthermore, all iterative attacks with a bow are made at a -5 attack penalty. Normally, At (say) level  11 with Symmetrical Archery, the Arrow Demon's attacks would lead to a Full Attack routine of +11/+11/+6/+6/+1/+1. Volley adds an extra attack at the start and prevents its last attacks from suffering in accuracy. Thus, at level 11, the Arrow Demon could make 7 attacks at (+11(v) | +11/+11/+6/+6/+(6)/+(6) ) BaB.
This ability does not stack with Rapid Shot or any other archery feats that increase the number of attacks it can make. As the extra attack gained through Volley is not an iterative, it only adds 1 extra attack.

Oversized Weapons (Ex): At the apex of its growth, the Arrow Demons can use bows of any kind that are up to one size larger than their size would allow without penalty.

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Design intentions: I want to make the Arrow Demon into a competitive archer that doesn't have to bear unspeakable costs for expensive weaponry or take a ridiculous chain of feats to get there.

Symmetrical Archery & Volley: These abilities remove the feat taxes required of most archers. I've carefully worded it so that Archery feats won't apply but other characters can still enable it. They allow the Arrow Demon to focus on other feats such as Imp. Toughness, Endurance, Diehard etc.

Telepathy: I don't like the idea of the pairing of Telepathy + Mindsight basically being a "within X feet, I automatically know if anything with a mind is present" which, in my opinion, necessitates the re-wording of Telepathy.

Dimension Door: This ability was tricky to implement fairly, so it should only be entry-good at levels 18+

Updates:
12/3/19: Updated table to reflect changes in Dimension Door. Revised the ability to allow optional carry at 11th, and improves at 18.
12/4/19: Added Knowledge (Religion) to its skills & made it (loosely) required for summoning. Otherwise, the Arrow Demon won't know *what* it's summoning.
12/18/19: Removed summon list. Revised arrow-crafting options.
12/19/19

[oslecamo]

Righto first comments:
-All good saves and good Bab and all those weapon proficiencies is definitely too much, something needs to cut back.
-The image clearly has an almost naked dude. Why armor and shield proficiencies? It's not even default to non-homebrew outsiders.
-Natural Armor equal to HD isn't something I'm that big of a fan since it starts lower but then just keeps growing and growing.
-I would prefer if you keep closer to the demon classes already done like the Balor, like just resistance against poison instead of flat out immunity (at least at low levels), plus telepathy coming online a bit earlier.
-Arrow works is interesting, but as written still somewhat abuseable since anybody can use the arrows. With a bit of healing a single arrow demon can supply a small army with adamantine arrows which sounds a bit silly. Would suggest the arrow demon can simply create arrows out of nowhere when shooting, no need to even sacrifice HP for basic ammo, maybe sacrifice for fancier shots but either way only it can use them.
-Fiendish Archer could be read as adding your Dex to bow attacks twice which sounds a bit OP.
-Arrows from Hell is a nice touch, and if there's a good place to pay HP it should be here for that extra "hellish" touch, otherwise just seems standard archery stuff. Also Enchant needs an activation action. Pierce sounds kinda useless since DR/piercing would already be ignored and DR/slashing is kinda rare.
-Dimension door should either have a cooldown or /day or at least/hour limit.
-SR needs the "can be dropped at any time as a free action" clause.
-Seems to be missing the summoning. Would make for a nice capstone if telepathy starts earlier. For extra flavor, I would suggest either you can sacrifice dretches adjacent to a target for combat bonus (or maybe if an enemy kills a dretch you get a free symmetric shot against them), while summoning another Arrow Demon would allow you to use some kind of combo volley.

[~Corvus~]

Major updates. Ready for re-evaluation. I did most of the changes. Changes that were not made are addressed here:

-Arrows from Hell is a nice touch [...] otherwise just seems standard archery stuff.

There are few ranged characters on this board-section, and no Archers that I've found. So yes, it is meant to be neat archery stuff.

-Dimension door should either have a cooldown or /day or at least/hour limit.

The monster listing grants it uses at will. Besides being entirely true to design, it gains much-needed mobility, and note that it gains no flight-like ability; this ability will be useful and add a dangerous dimension to an otherwise excellent archer.

[oslecamo]

Major updates. Ready for re-evaluation. I did most of the changes. Changes that were not made are addressed here:

As written right now, doesn't seem like Arrow Works allows you to get aligned cold iron/silver arrows.

-Arrows from Hell is a nice touch [...] otherwise just seems standard archery stuff.

There are few ranged characters on this board-section, and no Archers that I've found. So yes, it is meant to be neat archery stuff.

Well there's the Paragon then the forest giant and some fey like the Thorn and Pixie are good with bows but the Arrow Demon's supposed to be all about that that so fair enuff.

-Dimension door should either have a cooldown or /day or at least/hour limit.

The monster listing grants it uses at will. Besides being entirely true to design, it gains much-needed mobility, and note that it gains no flight-like ability; this ability will be useful and add a dangerous dimension to an otherwise excellent archer.

The original monster can't use it as swift/free action however, which alone makes an huge difference. Other problems related to being part of a party include:
-At 11 HD the Arrow Demon suddenly becomes the party's ferry.
-If it's a full ranged party, then the arrow Demon becomes a crazy mobility multiplier.
-If it's 2+ Arrow Demons, then the extra ones can ready/delay up their dimensional doors against enemy attacks to make an archery death ball that can never be reached.

Notice that Dimension Door has a whooping range of 400 feet+40 feet per level. That's greater mobility than the size of most battle maps, let alone the mobility of other creatures. Only enemies with at-will swift/free teleportation will have any hope to keep up, but if the arrow demon teams up with another arrow demon, then they basically have unbeatable mobility. In an archer specialist. Something needs to be cut down here. Either cooldowns, limited uses, no bringing allies or drastically reduced range so enemies lacking teleportation of their own have a chance to keep up.

EDIT: Also the Natural armor bonus is still a bit too high, very few monsters get 3+Con at first level and they're supposed to be tanks, this is supposed to be an archer. The custom summoning list looks nice. Also why the custom telepathy penalty of may be "heard" by creatures it can't detect? Also "may"? How does the DM determines if an hiding enemy can eavesdrop in that telepathy or not? Why not just good old regular telepathy?

[RegalKain]

Major updates. Ready for re-evaluation. I did most of the changes. Changes that were not made are addressed here:

As written right now, doesn't seem like Arrow Works allows you to get aligned cold iron/silver arrows.

-Arrows from Hell is a nice touch [...] otherwise just seems standard archery stuff.

There are few ranged characters on this board-section, and no Archers that I've found. So yes, it is meant to be neat archery stuff.

Well there's the Paragon then the forest giant and some fey like the Thorn and Pixie are good with bows but the Arrow Demon's supposed to be all about that that so fair enuff.

-Dimension door should either have a cooldown or /day or at least/hour limit.

The monster listing grants it uses at will. Besides being entirely true to design, it gains much-needed mobility, and note that it gains no flight-like ability; this ability will be useful and add a dangerous dimension to an otherwise excellent archer.

The original monster can't use it as swift/free action however, which alone makes an huge difference. Other problems related to being part of a party include:
-At 11 HD the Arrow Demon suddenly becomes the party's ferry.
-If it's a full ranged party, then the arrow Demon becomes a crazy mobility multiplier.
-If it's 2+ Arrow Demons, then the extra ones can ready/delay up their dimensional doors against enemy attacks to make an archery death ball that can never be reached.

Notice that Dimension Door has a whooping range of 400 feet+40 feet per level. That's greater mobility than the size of most battle maps, let alone the mobility of other creatures. Only enemies with at-will swift/free teleportation will have any hope to keep up, but if the arrow demon teams up with another arrow demon, then they basically have unbeatable mobility. In an archer specialist. Something needs to be cut down here. Either cooldowns, limited uses, no bringing allies or drastically reduced range so enemies lacking teleportation of their own have a chance to keep up.

EDIT: Also the Natural armor bonus is still a bit too high, very few monsters get 3+Con at first level and they're supposed to be tanks, this is supposed to be an archer. The custom summoning list looks nice. Also why the custom telepathy penalty of may be "heard" by creatures it can't detect? Also "may"? How does the DM determines if an hiding enemy can eavesdrop in that telepathy or not? Why not just good old regular telepathy?

Uhhh, as I read the DImension Door ability it says 200 pounds of objects only? Wouldn't that immediately make it invalid to carry the party? Or anyone other then itself? Perhaps I'm mistaken though. If I were a DM and read the ability I'd say it only works on their own gear/belongings and only up to 200 pounds. Which is still quite handy, but not nearly as useful as it might otherwise be with either a heigher weigh limit, or the ability to transport living matter. It may have also been edited since your posting, but I dunno that either.

Edit: Maybe it was done after your post, since it seems that there is a daily limit on the swift/free action variants. I personally think the pound and object only is a strong stop on it.

Edit2: So reading through this I had a few questions myself.  This line under Symmetrical Archery "The arrow demon takes no additional penalties for using multiple weapons as long as it is using only bows.
At 4th level and again at 7th, this penalty decreases by 1." what happens if I gain 6 extra arms? I realize earlier in the description it says 2 bows, but maybe add a point of clarification here just in case a future DM reads this and has a player who has multiple sets of arms.

Also on multiple arms, the picture shows 4 arms, they can wield two bows. But I don't see anywhere in their description that actually states that they have 4 fully working and functional arms, is that intentional or is that an oversight of some kind?

I think a better clarification on Telepathy would be.

Telepathy (Su): At the apex of its growth, the Arrow Demon gains Telepathy out to 100'+10'/HD. Unlike normal telepathy, this ability only functions if the Arrow Demon can perceive the recipient through other means. (They must be able to see, or hear the target or otherwise know it is there.) However it can instead use it's telepathy over it's entire available range as a sort of broadcast, this simply allows it's thoughts to be heard by any creature in range, though the Arrow Demon cannot use this to determine if there is a creature in range.

I think that might fix the issues Oslec is having with it's wording, and it makes it clear cut without any questionable wording (Unless my own wording is confusing, though it reads fine to me.)

Enchant and Enhancement- Do these abilities stack in any way with an enchantment already on the bow? For instance can you have a +1 flaming bow, and use your enhancement from this class to add say Frost/Shocking or Keen or something else? Or does it overwrite the abilities on the bow?


All in all, I'm super excited to try to utilize this class. We're running an evil gestalt campaign and I was using a Centaur/Dvati for all my ranged goodness, but I think Arrow Demon/Dvati might produce more potent results!

Edit3: The Power ability, this reads a bit murky to me. To clarify, does this mean if you have a 12 Str (A +1 bonus) and have Power taken once, you get a +4 bonus from the bow? Or does it mean that you can treat the bow as though it had a +4 modifier on it, but you still need the 18 Str to utilize that bonus?

[oslecamo]

Yeah, seems like Corvus updated it but didn't say anything (edited at 14 of June while my reply was in the 9th). The current dimension door version is much better and I don't have problems with it, so seems like just the strange telepathy wording needs some cleaning up.

[~Corvus~]

I appreciate your suggestions and questions. I don't like the idea of the pairing of Telepathy & Mindsight becoming a "within X feet, I automatically know if anything with a mind is present" which, in my opinion, necessitates the re-wording of Telepathy.

Edit2: So reading through this I had a few questions myself.  This line under Symmetrical Archery "The arrow demon takes no additional penalties for using multiple weapons as long as it is using only bows.
At 4th level and again at 7th, this penalty decreases by 1." what happens if I gain 6 extra arms? I realize earlier in the description it says 2 bows, but maybe add a point of clarification here just in case a future DM reads this and has a player who has multiple sets of arms.

Also on multiple arms, the picture shows 4 arms, they can wield two bows. But I don't see anywhere in their description that actually states that they have 4 fully working and functional arms, is that intentional or is that an oversight of some kind?

Good points and fixed. RAI, it should only gain a break for 2 bows.

Enchant and Enhancement- Do these abilities stack in any way with an enchantment already on the bow? For instance can you have a +1 flaming bow, and use your enhancement from this class to add say Frost/Shocking or Keen or something else? Or does it overwrite the abilities on the bow?

RAI, it's intended to overwrite and progress enchantments at a steady pace: "Arrows with an Enhancement bonus of +2 or higher may have part of the bonus from its arrows swapped for an equivalent enchantment."

Edit3: The Power ability, this reads a bit murky to me. To clarify, does this mean if you have a 12 Str (A +1 bonus) and have Power taken once, you get a +4 bonus from the bow? Or does it mean that you can treat the bow as though it had a +4 modifier on it, but you still need the 18 Str to utilize that bonus?

The Power enhancement ONLY increases the range of a Composite's bonus. This is intended to decrease the cost of modifying a bow (which can be hellish, if you know what I mean
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[RegalKain]

Excellent, thanks so much for the responses, certainly looking forward to trying this out and building a character out of it!

 I certainly understand your concern with Telepathy as well, Mindsight or Lifesight if the DM allows are both kind of borked and make it rather difficult to "sneak up" on a party, short of "everything is a golem forever now go away."

[RegalKain]

Curious about something. This line under Volley

Furthermore, all iterative attacks with a bow are made at a -5 attack penalty. Thus, at level 11, the Arrow Demon could make 7 attacks at (+11 | +11/+11/+6/+6/+(6)/+(6) ) BaB.

How is it getting the last two attacks? Normally you'd have 11/6/1, Volley changes this to 11/11/6/6, where are the last 2 attacks coming from? Since it explicitly states it doesn't stack with Symmetrical Archery?

Edit: Sorry I forgot I had already posted.

[~Corvus~]

Curious about something. This line under Volley

Furthermore, all iterative attacks with a bow are made at a -5 attack penalty. Thus, at level 11, the Arrow Demon could make 7 attacks at (+11 | +11/+11/+6/+6/+(6)/+(6) ) BaB.

How is it getting the last two attacks? Normally you'd have 11/6/1, Volley changes this to 11/11/6/6, where are the last 2 attacks coming from? Since it explicitly states it doesn't stack with Symmetrical Archery?

Edit: Sorry I forgot I had already posted.

Well, We need to re-examine these class abilities here!

Symmetrical Archery (Ex):The arrow demon, with its four arms, has an amazing ability to wield two bows at once and in unison. Any time the arrow demon could make a single attack action with a bow, it can instead attack with both of its bows.

I'm taking a full attack at level 11 with (for the sake of this example) 11 BaB, which grants an attack routine of 11/6/1.
Symmetrical archery makes this 11/11/6/6/1/1.

Volley does something even cooler. It adds +1 attack at the highest BaB of this routine and makes all iterative attacks at a -5. Thus we get
11 (volley bonus) | 11/11/6/6/(6)/(6)

I noted that Volley and Symmetrical archery don't stack (Volley adds on 1 attack), so that you can't use these abilities to chain a series of infinite attacks. Hopefully that adds some clarity.

[oslecamo]

Some other details:
-Why SR equal to 12+HD? The standard is 11+HD and the original monster even has SR 18 for CR 7.
-Why do the claws grant a bonus to grapple checks? That one seems really out of place.

[~Corvus~]

The original demon has a high-30s constitution but it didn't seem entirely fitting to give that again. So I went with some higher Natural Armor and some higher SR. How would you better-represent high HP without making it absurdly high in Con?maybe give it a d12 HD??

Grapple seemed good to resist anothers attempts to wrestle a bow away.

[oslecamo]

The closest thing to wrestling a bow in the rules would be a disarm. And even if it gets grappled it can just dimension door away.

Also I had forgot about the inflated natural armor and it still is bad. Inflated ability scores and making monsters giant sacks of hit points is bad. It was plain boring power creep as the monster books went on. And one of the basic rules here is precisely cutting back those base numbers.

Again look at the other fiends done in this project. Why should the arrow demon be the toughest of them all?

[~Corvus~]

Should be ready to go!

[oslecamo]

Added to the index.