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What is the hardness and hp of a corpse?
« on: December 29, 2011, 03:12:03 AM »
Assume medium humanoid frame.
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Re: What is the hardness and hp of a corpse?
« Reply #1 on: December 29, 2011, 03:33:03 AM »
At a guess, harness 5 and 13hp? Just like a zombie, basically, except not moving.
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Re: What is the hardness and hp of a corpse?
« Reply #2 on: December 29, 2011, 06:51:27 AM »
There doesn't seem to be official stats for a corpse.
The FAQ essentially says to make one up using the table from the PHB (the question refers to a warforged, but the answer includes all races):
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I would probably set the hardness at around leather.

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Re: What is the hardness and hp of a corpse?
« Reply #3 on: December 29, 2011, 09:27:59 PM »
If the creature didn't have DR, why would its corpse have hardness?
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Re: What is the hardness and hp of a corpse?
« Reply #4 on: December 30, 2011, 02:00:48 AM »
If the creature didn't have DR, why would its corpse have hardness?
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...but you're right, it shouldn't have hardness. (I must have been really foggy-headed when I read and copy/pasted that FAQ answer.)
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Re: What is the hardness and hp of a corpse?
« Reply #5 on: December 30, 2011, 06:00:10 PM »
I'd houserule hardness to be 1/3 its natural armour, rounded down.  And only EX DR should apply, the SU kind should no longer function once it's dead.
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Re: What is the hardness and hp of a corpse?
« Reply #6 on: December 30, 2011, 07:07:38 PM »
If the creature didn't have DR, why would its corpse have hardness?

Yeah, it depends on how old the body is. If it's fresh, then it wouldn't have any hardness, but after a while I could see a little bit of hardness even for corpses that didn't have DR in life.
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Re: What is the hardness and hp of a corpse?
« Reply #7 on: December 30, 2011, 07:20:59 PM »
Considering leather and hide has 2 hardness and bone probably has 5 (like wood) I would have thought 3 or so for a body. Even glass has 1 hardness.

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Re: What is the hardness and hp of a corpse?
« Reply #8 on: December 30, 2011, 09:47:53 PM »
You could use the base AC of the creature assuming DEX 0, natural armor and armor worn for hardness, and the leather 2hp/inch for HP.

Example: Human with leather armor
10 + (-5) + 0 + 2 = 7

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Re: What is the hardness and hp of a corpse?
« Reply #9 on: December 31, 2011, 04:09:08 AM »
Considering leather and hide has 2 hardness and bone probably has 5 (like wood) I would have thought 3 or so for a body. Even glass has 1 hardness.
That sounds about reasonable, and I think Dungeonscape has rules somewhere for the hp per inch of meat.
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Re: What is the hardness and hp of a corpse?
« Reply #10 on: December 31, 2011, 03:04:01 PM »
depends, whats the climate and weather like?

how long has it been bloating in the sun?

is it in water?

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Re: What is the hardness and hp of a corpse?
« Reply #11 on: December 31, 2011, 03:43:25 PM »
Also depends on the degree of destruction you're going to. Are you hacking it into big chunks? Thats easier than having to break bone.
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Re: What is the hardness and hp of a corpse?
« Reply #12 on: January 02, 2012, 07:17:30 PM »
I am liking the leather comparisons.  I will see if I can find my Dungeonomicon...

depends, whats the climate and weather like?

how long has it been bloating in the sun?

is it in water?

It's actually the corpse of an illithid which is only recently dead, and has spent its corpsy existance in a cold dark room with slightly lower than normal air pressure.There are other more advancely decayed bodies in the room too.
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Re: What is the hardness and hp of a corpse?
« Reply #13 on: January 02, 2012, 10:43:11 PM »
do illithids have skeletons still?

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Re: What is the hardness and hp of a corpse?
« Reply #14 on: January 02, 2012, 11:03:45 PM »
do illithids have skeletons still?

I'd imagine they do.  They're not boneless, in spite of having squid heads.  After all, all illithids are former humanoids with a new skin, in a sense.
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