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Offline sirpercival

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Racial bonus
« on: January 17, 2012, 08:51:01 AM »
Do racial bonuses from different sources stack? 

For example, both the Aberration Blood (flexible limbs) and Deepspawn feats grant a +2 racial bonus to grapple checks.  Do those stack?

Would either of those feats stack with a race that got a +X racial bonus to grapple checks?
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Re: Racial bonus
« Reply #1 on: January 17, 2012, 10:50:40 AM »
RAW, no, but if I'm not mistaken those two were printed in the same book, and may actually be intended to stack.

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Re: Racial bonus
« Reply #2 on: January 17, 2012, 11:59:15 AM »
Yes, they are in the same book.  I agree they were probably supposed to stack, but I think by RAW they don't.

Related question.  If some effect gave a "racial bonus" to an ability score, would that stack with racial ability mods?  Like a dwarf gets some effect that gives a +4 racial bonus to Con, would that stack or overlap with his normal +2?
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Re: Racial bonus
« Reply #3 on: January 17, 2012, 12:51:26 PM »
A dwarf doesn't have a "racial bonus" on Con.  It has "+2 Constitution, -2 Charisma: Dwarves are stout and tough but tend to be gruff and reserved." as a racial trait.  You know what they say about unnamed bonuses and modifications.
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Re: Racial bonus
« Reply #4 on: January 17, 2012, 07:11:58 PM »
Yeah, it sucks... according to RAW, there's that old (and tiresome :tongue) golden rule which states that bonus with the same types do not stack (exceptions to these are, for example, dodge bonuses)... unless the feat/ability/whatever explicity states that.

In this case, i also agree that they're supposed to stack, because the grapple bonuses are given by different mutations, but i could probably reason that they don't, because "Flexible limbs" are sort of like tentacles themselves, so if you have even more tentacles, it doesn't matter :tongue