Way to make an Su ability an Ex?

[Nameless Void]

For example, if a character had Shapechange as an Su ability, is there a way to make the change an Ex ability?

[phaedrusxy]

For example, if a character had Shapechange as an Su ability, is there a way to make the change an Ex ability?

I'm guessing "Become Pun-Pun" isn't the answer you're looking for? I can't think of much else... This is one of the tricks used in Pun-Pun's "ascension", though. So you might go dig through that thread to find out how they do it.

[Nameless Void]

I'll do that. Thanks mate

[Halinn]

Just to save you a little effort: Pun-Pun

[awaken_D_M_golem]

Breaking The Core ... couldn't do it.

One of the Epic Spell Seeds "ought" to be able,
and in general Epic Spells "should" be able.
iirc - Mythal Seed was one of the things Pun-pun could use.

[Nameless Void]

Hmm.. I've never looked at that.

It doesn't work as RAW. Fast Wild Shape is a Template granted Ability not a Class granted  Ability and so does not qualify for Master of Many Forms. I digress..

But thanks for the link

[Halinn]

Hmm.. I've never looked at that.

It doesn't work as RAW. Fast Wild Shape is a Template granted Ability not a Class granted  Ability and so does not qualify for Master of Many Forms. I digress..

But thanks for the link

The ECL 5 build is an older, slower form. It doesn't need the MoMF entry any longer.