Author Topic: Need Help Coming up with a Devil's Contract and Loophole  (Read 7654 times)

Offline Haakon

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Re: Need Help Coming up with a Devil's Contract and Loophole
« Reply #20 on: November 21, 2012, 02:36:52 PM »
The problem with altering the status of the temple to non-temple would be that it might be seen as legally equivalent to destroying the temple.
Of course, it the demon can't do anything about it, then tough luck. But if you start remodelling the walls to make it not conform to an attached document that defined the temple, then you are in fact turning the building from a temple into a non-temple, thus destroying it, thus, requiring the demon to stop it.

As for his ability to defend the temple, the contract is probably written so as to be valid under the local laws, and therefore local case-law. And I'll bet you that you can find case law that sends someone in jail for doing something similar.

OTOH, you might just get the local rulers to deny demons/devils adulthood, thus denying them the ability to enter or be bound under contracts, except under a ward (as per the relevant case law for other legal minors), and thus rendering the entire contract (and any other contract binding a demon) null and void.

Of course, that may backfire hilariously, as every demon bound gets freed of his contract the second he enters the country. And might get rebound the second he leaves.

But ask your DM about case-laws. And whether or not outsiders all can achieve personhood. And the precise requirements for entering a contract to begin with.

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Re: Need Help Coming up with a Devil's Contract and Loophole
« Reply #21 on: December 05, 2012, 10:31:06 AM »
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I like this idea a lot. That would make an interesting campaign, a Devil-focused campaign where the Devils are required to conform to the laws where their contract is originally made, even if doing so would render the contract null-and-void. However, there is an obvious problem, just because the contract is null-and-void, there isn't a clause forcing it to return to the Nine Hells. A small revision: Devils with the ability to conform to a magical contract are no longer considered adults, and must have a Lord of their respective layer of Hell agree to the contract, through a direct signature, lest the Devil so bound by a contract immediately be released from the contract and return to the Nine Hells.
I hope that helps.
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