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Offline Amechra

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Is White Dragon Lineage a form of Rage?
« on: February 21, 2013, 05:30:52 PM »
Quote from: White Dragon Lineage
As a swift action, you can spend an arcane spell slot to enter a state similar to that of a barbarian's rage. You gain temporary hit points and resistance to cold equal to 5 x the spell's level. Unlike rage, this state doesn't restrict you from casting spells or performing any other actions, though you can't activate the ability again while it is already active. The effect lasts for a number of rounds equal to 1 + your Charisma bonus.

So, in your opinion, is it rage-like enough that it would gain the benefits of Ettercap Lodge Berserker or Reckless Rage? I'm trying to build a character that abuses the Berserking Sword (cursed +2 Greatsword that gives you all the benefits and drawbacks of rage while you are in combat, as well as forcing you to continue fighting until there isn't a single living thing within 30'... or until you die. Whatever comes first), and I'm going with "stacking rages is win."
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Re: Is White Dragon Lineage a form of Rage?
« Reply #1 on: February 21, 2013, 07:09:50 PM »
Well, don't forget the berserker out of Deities and Demigods.

Edit: and, uh... no. Despite the phrase "...similar to that of a barbarian's rage" it's effects are in fact, nothing like a barbarian rage, unless you left something out of the description.
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Re: Is White Dragon Lineage a form of Rage?
« Reply #2 on: February 21, 2013, 08:00:42 PM »
I didn't; I was actually wondering if the "similar to Barbarian's rage" sentence would mean that it could be used as Rage for the purpose of stuff that triggers on Rage.

Because, if so... hot damn!
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Re: Is White Dragon Lineage a form of Rage?
« Reply #3 on: February 21, 2013, 08:39:16 PM »
How many different rages did you find? Are you using the Wildrunner, FoF, and FB?
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Re: Is White Dragon Lineage a form of Rage?
« Reply #4 on: February 21, 2013, 10:17:51 PM »
Wildrunner doesn't have rage (in fact, it has less of a claim of being a "rage" than White Dragon Lineage), same thing with the Fist of the Forest, and Frenzied Berserker's Frenzy is something I am looking at for later.

I really want to find things that modify rage, too; the current plan is, for early game at least (and, you know, if I were to be in an E6 game...) would be to be a Druidic Avenger 6 with Ettercap Lodge Berserker, Reckless Rage, and Wolverine's Rage, who wields a Berserking Sword.

I'd get +16 Str and +24 Con upon triggering Wolverine's Rage if I, you know, rage with my normal rage; this includes a nice neat +4 to Will saves.

If I was just going to leave this at E6, I would take 4 extra feats that collectively give you +5 to NA while raging (hey, it offsets my penalty to AC quite nicely!), along with Extra Rage and Extra Wildshape.

However, going Frenzied Berserker would get me to +28 Str and +32 Con when all is said and done...

Another route would be sucking some RHD and LA to become a Were-Badger, for an additional source of rage. Hell, I'll dip Barbarian and grab Frenzy as well (+6 Str, +4 Dex, +8 Con anyone?), to get 6 sources of Rage. That's a neat +48 Con right there, along with a +40 Str if I'm going with Frenzied Berserker.

And then... Khyber's Rage, for an additional +2 to Str, but a -2 to AC, to bring my total AC penalty to (wait for it...) -36, at most, but, hey, that's a +52 Str.

I'll check the Berserk; I shall have ALL THE ANGER!

EDIT: Wait a minute... I just had an evil thought.

Custom CL 5 Bracers that affect you with Blood Frenzy and Rage continuously? They are called out as being identical to rage, except for the differences in the sizes of their bonuses... with just those custom Bracers and the Berserking Sword, I'm looking at a constant +14 Str and +24 Con, along with (effectively) 3/encounter 1 round delay on effects I don't like as an Immediate action. Hell, toss Khyber's Rage on the mess of feats I've already got (Reckless Rage, Ettercap Lodge Berserker, and Mad Foam Rager), and that bonus to Strength jumps up to +20.
« Last Edit: February 21, 2013, 10:29:25 PM by Amechra »
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Re: Is White Dragon Lineage a form of Rage?
« Reply #5 on: February 21, 2013, 11:55:08 PM »
Don't forget Battlewine. :)

Also a Trident of Serenity nulls Rage-like effects. Your party may need one.

Then lastly. Richard's Champion allowed? It's technically homebrew, but homebrew by a long standing author of 3.5 content. While it's not pissed off Rage based, the transformation effect awards increased ability scores, spells, flight, and I think even a visible aura. I'm 99.9% sure Richard watched Dragon Ball Z and thought D&D needs a Class that can go Super Saiyen.

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Re: Is White Dragon Lineage a form of Rage?
« Reply #6 on: February 22, 2013, 03:59:57 AM »
What about a were-badger with possibly triggering Intimidating Rage feat by getting hit and raging, then changing out of his animal form, then changing back, getting hit again, and so on?

This requires the quickened shapechanging feat and maybe Warshaper for shifting as a free action.


For your race... Be a were-badger half-troll tauric anthropomorphic wolverine/dire badger

That gives you 3 rages there for who knows how crappy an ECL :P
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Re: Is White Dragon Lineage a form of Rage?
« Reply #7 on: February 22, 2013, 12:22:58 PM »
Where is Khyber's Rage from?

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Re: Is White Dragon Lineage a form of Rage?
« Reply #8 on: February 22, 2013, 12:54:59 PM »
It's from one of the Dragon mags.
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