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Uses for Polymorph Any Object
« on: December 30, 2012, 05:52:43 AM »
Ever since my cleric acquired the Trickery domain, I have access to this absurd and utterly awesome spell. However, it's not entirely clear to me what its uses are. Polymorphing my companions into gold dragons for a week is great fun, but somewhere on the boards I saw someone mention using the spell to polymorph a surface into acid. However, mechanically both the SRD and PHB only cover the use of polymorphing a creature.

So let's take the trick of transforming a surface into acid as an example. What is the duration? How large a surface can be transformed?

Furthermore, what are the rules regarding to polymorphing one object into another of different size? If I use it to polymorph a bearskin into a dire bear, is it under my command? Are there any other particularly powerful uses for the spell?

Looking forward to your views on this :)

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Re: Uses for Polymorph Any Object
« Reply #1 on: December 30, 2012, 04:12:24 PM »
if i may be permitted to correct a point:

first off, the srd and phb both state in the target line that valid targets are a creature OR one non-magical object of up to 100 cubic feet per level. so it is not creature only.

therefore, the surface in question must be within the size limitations. so changing the ground will not work, unless the dm cooperates with you about granular composition of the ground (for example, everyone standing on a big rock embedded into the dirt or somesuch. likewise, a tiled floor being altered will likely result in only a single tile changing. might be interesting if a vein of mineral was transformed hollowing out the area, change it into an animal and move it out of the mine before it changes back. presto, pure mineral.

so taking your question of surface to acid: the duration will be the result of the total of the duration factors described in the spell. changing solid surface comprised of a mineral into acid (the kind of acid might be important as some plants and animals can produce acid, while there are purely chemical (mineral) acids as well) and assuming that the acid is "mineral" in nature, then you get the same kingdom duration factor of +5, same size bonus of +2, do not get the same class bonus, do not get the related bonus, and get the same or lower int bonus of +2 for a total of +9. 9 or more makes the duration permanent. less then 9 means the duration is limited as per the table.

so you could take the stone surface another is standing on, and if it is somehow a single object within the cubic feet limit (such as a large flat boulder inside the ground) then it could be changed into a pool of acid the same size as the former boulder. that might be an interesting way to steal a giant gold statue... put a portable hole or an enveloping pit at the base of the statue, and then change it into water, or a sheep, or something, and then stick it into the hole/pit and wander off with it.

the spell grants no control over the resulting transformed target.

since the poa spell references the poly spell, i imagine that the limit on HD would transfer as well, so as long as your bearskin dire bear had equal to or less HD as your caster, then it would work.

the HD would serve to incidentally restrict the sizes you can pull off. otherwise, the cubic  feet limit would seem to be the only other size restrictive property.
« Last Edit: December 30, 2012, 04:17:22 PM by nijineko »

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Re: Uses for Polymorph Any Object
« Reply #2 on: December 30, 2012, 07:13:58 PM »
A clear answer, thanks nijineko! Your applications are intriguing.

Hey, I completely missed the cubic feet part! The way I interpret it, I think the acid trick would work as well. I think I'll save this discussion on semantics for my DM though.

Okay, so one more question: PAO has the 15 HD limit of regular polymorph. Am I allowed to polymorph something into a 'leveled' version of a lower HD creature?

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Re: Uses for Polymorph Any Object
« Reply #3 on: December 31, 2012, 02:45:22 AM »
Okay, so one more question: PAO has the 15 HD limit of regular polymorph. Am I allowed to polymorph something into a 'leveled' version of a lower HD creature?
No. Nor technically can you polymorph something into a target with templates, due to the spell being based on Polymorph, which inherits the prohibition from Alter Self.
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Re: Uses for Polymorph Any Object
« Reply #4 on: December 31, 2012, 01:19:46 PM »
Wasn't there a Dragon article suggesting polymorphing a dead animal into a templated dragon turtle or somesuch?
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Re: Uses for Polymorph Any Object
« Reply #5 on: February 01, 2013, 04:37:43 PM »
Wasn't there a Dragon article suggesting polymorphing a dead animal into a templated dragon turtle or somesuch?

... I do recall a thread somewhere around here,
just before the hackjob, nearly about this very topic.
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Re: Uses for Polymorph Any Object
« Reply #6 on: February 01, 2013, 06:49:24 PM »
Dragon 324 pg 65.  Look for the heading "Hybrid Horrors."
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Re: Uses for Polymorph Any Object
« Reply #7 on: February 01, 2013, 10:57:23 PM »
Wasn't there a Dragon article suggesting polymorphing a dead animal into a templated dragon turtle or somesuch?
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Re: Uses for Polymorph Any Object
« Reply #8 on: February 21, 2013, 07:06:02 PM »
bump


also referenced here by Mithril Leaf
---> http://www.minmaxboards.com/index.php?topic=418.msg118959#msg118959

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Re: Uses for Polymorph Any Object
« Reply #9 on: February 26, 2013, 12:26:27 AM »
if you PAO a warforged into a piece of modern art, is the change permanent due to same form (mineral, etc...)?  ^^