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massive threat range increase
« on: April 01, 2013, 06:33:54 PM »
rapid shot feat and the arrow swarm special ability feat of the targetteer (alternate fighter class from a dragon mag: p.38-9, august 2003 issue) stack with each other, if i'm reading it right.

rapid shot grants +1 ranged attack at highest bonus for a -2, arrow swarm grants +2 attacks at highest bonus for a -5; totaling +3 attacks for a -7.

take improved rapid shot to remove the -2 from rapid shot, and you have +3 attacks at highest bonus for the -5 to hit.

taking the sniper special ability feat of the targetteer allows you to sacrifice up to all but one of your attacks on a full attack action for a +1 threat range increase per attack sacrificed.

if one has a +16 base attack bonus, that's a total of 7 attacks per round (at a -5) or one attack (at a -5) with a +6 threat range. which stacks with keen or improved critical for a +7 to the threat range. and it should also stack with the various weapon master and similar prestige for further increases to threat range.

what prestige classes, items, feats, powers, spells, etc., are out there that could further increase the ranged weapon threat range?

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Re: massive threat range increase
« Reply #1 on: April 01, 2013, 07:47:45 PM »
There is a Teamwork Benefit in Forge of War that gives +1 to threat range if a member of your team successfully crits. It's only against the guy they critted, but its a nice +1.

There are also Shatter Bolts from Dragon Compendium, which are 18-20/x3.

Curse of Arrow Attraction, a Ranger 2/Cleric 3/Sorcerer 3/Wizard 3 spell, gives your enemy -5 to their AC, and makes ranged attacks auto-confirm.

Deepwood Sniper makes all your arrows automatically Keen, and gives you a +2 to the final Crit multiplier of any arrows that you use. This means that you can hit x6 easily, which Dragondoom can translate to x11 against Dragons/Dragonblooded creatures. Now that is bringing the hurt.

Part of me wants to build a Ranger that dips Targeteer fighter, goes into Deepwood Sniper for 7 levels, and is optimized to one-shot dragons.
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Re: massive threat range increase
« Reply #2 on: April 01, 2013, 08:40:10 PM »
Nimblewight starts w the best threat range out there.

stack a few things, and you threaten on 1-20 (still fails, unless you use a trick)
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Re: massive threat range increase
« Reply #3 on: April 01, 2013, 11:48:46 PM »
nice synergy with dws and dragondoom.

as i recall nimblewrights are melee only, and this only works with ranged.


psi weapon master would increase the threat range a bit, and the crit multiplier, but the feat tax is very heavy and does not mix well.

exotic weapon master might help if you use a greatbow.

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Re: massive threat range increase
« Reply #4 on: April 02, 2013, 01:21:42 AM »
Throw Anything or throwing returning necklace of natural attacks
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Re: massive threat range increase
« Reply #5 on: April 02, 2013, 05:10:11 PM »

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Re: massive threat range increase
« Reply #6 on: April 02, 2013, 07:11:34 PM »
Throw Anything or throwing returning necklace of natural attacks

throw anything would work nicely.

the necklace would probably not work, as the enhanced crit range only applies to their rapiers... and the necklace only works with natural attacks, iirc.

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Re: massive threat range increase
« Reply #7 on: April 02, 2013, 07:21:31 PM »
Throw Anything or throwing returning necklace of natural attacks

throw anything would work nicely.

the necklace would probably not work, as the enhanced crit range only applies to their rapiers... and the necklace only works with natural attacks, iirc.

Aren't a nimblewright's rapiers natural and manufactured, like a monk?

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Re: massive threat range increase
« Reply #8 on: April 03, 2013, 12:21:02 AM »
Throw Anything or throwing returning necklace of natural attacks

throw anything would work nicely.

the necklace would probably not work, as the enhanced crit range only applies to their rapiers... and the necklace only works with natural attacks, iirc.

Aren't a nimblewright's rapiers natural and manufactured, like a monk?


oh, so it is, my mistake. ^^ i looked it up and turns out i had forgotten the line where it says that they count as natural weapons in the description.

sorry about that. would work nicely for an npc, but the ecl is rather rough for a pc.

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Re: massive threat range increase
« Reply #9 on: April 03, 2013, 12:27:26 AM »
Figure some template chain to get the Symbiotic template to work, then you're dealing w just the HD+1
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Re: massive threat range increase
« Reply #10 on: April 03, 2013, 02:18:22 AM »
Would work nicely for an npc, but the ecl is rather rough for a pc.

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Re: massive threat range increase
« Reply #11 on: April 03, 2013, 01:51:13 PM »
bloodwind would also be a very effective combo with a nimblewright.

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Re: massive threat range increase
« Reply #12 on: April 04, 2013, 08:41:46 PM »
Weren't nimblewrights nerfed in the MM2 conversion to 3.5?

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Re: massive threat range increase
« Reply #13 on: April 05, 2013, 12:16:42 AM »
From what I remember, no (or not much)
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Re: massive threat range increase
« Reply #14 on: April 06, 2013, 09:35:42 PM »
From what I remember, no (or not much)

Ah, that's right, the LA was the disappointing part of that. +6 for a massive ECL.

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Re: massive threat range increase
« Reply #15 on: April 07, 2013, 12:38:08 AM »
Well otherwise, they're unplayable
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