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Offline bones972

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I have tried to do a couple of searches and can not find anything on these questions.

I was reading the Magus build for the Dervish Dance feat build and noticed that he used a Scimitar with Weapon Finesse at 1st level to get the Dex bonus to att.  Looking at Scimitar, I see its a one handed weapon with no RAW giving it the finesse ability like a rapier.  Am I missing something?

The second question I have is in regard to Magus Spell Combat ability at 1st level.  So if I am reading this correctly, you make 2 attacks with your weapon (Each at -2).  The first is standard weapon attack and adds Str dmg and the second is also with weapon but no str bonus but spell is delivered with weapon?

So lets say its a a 1st lvl Magus with Str of 14 (No weapon Finesse) making full attack with a scimitar (using orb of acid as his spell combat) makes two attacks with his scimitar (first attack at +0/1d6+2 and another attack with scimitar for +0/1d6+2 +1d3)

Thanks for any input guys
Bones

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Re: (PF) Magus Questions (Scimitar and Weapon Finesse?) (Spell Combat)
« Reply #1 on: April 24, 2013, 08:36:48 PM »
That's what Dervish Dance does.  It has Weapon Finesse as a prerequisite and lets you add Dex to attack and damage with a scimitar.

Spell combat does not allow you to make any extra attacks with your weapon.  What spell combat does is this:
As one full round action:
  • All attacks the magus makes during this full round action take a -2 penalty.
  • Make a full attack.
  • Cast a spell with a casting time of Standard or less.
If the magus also has spellstrike he can deliver melee touch spells with his weapon at the expense of making it not a touch attack.  He can spellstrike while using spell combat.
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Re: (PF) Magus Questions (Scimitar and Weapon Finesse?) (Spell Combat)
« Reply #2 on: April 24, 2013, 09:30:12 PM »
Cool thanks!  So the Handbook is incorrect on that portion then? 

Thanks for clearing up the Spell Strike.  On the Spell strike thing with my example...

First attack is with Scimitar at +0/1d6+2 and second attack (Spell Strike) would be ranged touch at (+Dex/+BAB) doing 1d3 dmg

I think that is what you are saying right?

Thanks
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Re: (PF) Magus Questions (Scimitar and Weapon Finesse?) (Spell Combat)
« Reply #3 on: April 25, 2013, 10:55:28 AM »
A magus doesn't gain Spellstrike until 2nd level - that's the one that applies to melee touch spells.

Your example would play out like this:
Str 14
Dex 12
BAB 0
Acid splash prepared.
Assuming no other modifers.

As a full round action, the magus would make a single scimitar attack at +0, dealing normal damage (1d6+2).  He would then cast acid splash as part of that same action, making a ranged touch attack at -1 for 1d3 acid damage.
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Re: (PF) Magus Questions (Scimitar and Weapon Finesse?) (Spell Combat)
« Reply #4 on: April 26, 2013, 06:22:49 AM »
Vicerious Thanks!  That makes much more sense to me now! 

Ya I meant spell combat not spell strike on the other post sorry...
« Last Edit: April 26, 2013, 06:31:19 AM by bones972 »