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Is there a way to change a kukri from light to one-handed so that it may be used for power attack?
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Re: Is there a way to change a kukri from light to one-handed?
« Reply #1 on: May 26, 2013, 08:15:01 PM »
call it a scimitar.

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Re: Is there a way to change a kukri from light to one-handed?
« Reply #2 on: May 26, 2013, 08:21:07 PM »
call it a scimitar.

Doh', was thinking that was exotic. Guess I should've checked that.

EDIT: Actually the question remains, scimitar is not a tiger claw weapon, which is why I picked kukri. So is there any way to allow light weapons to power attack?
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Re: Is there a way to change a kukri from light to one-handed?
« Reply #3 on: May 26, 2013, 10:27:51 PM »
You can use an inappropiately sized weapon.  Assuming you're a medium creature, you can get a kukri designed for a large creature.

PHB, p113  (right before the 'Improvised Weapons' paragraph)
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The measure of how much effort it takes to use a weapon
(whether the weapon is designated as a light, one-handed, or twohanded
weapon for a particular wielder) is altered by one step for
each size category of difference between the wielder’s size and the
size of the creature for which the weapon was designed.
For
instance, a Small greatsword (a two-handed weapon for a Small
creature) is considered a one-handed weapon for a Medium creature,
or a light weapon for a Large creature. Conversely, a Large dagger (a
light weapon for a Large creature) is considered a one-handed
weapon for a Medium creature,
or a two-handed weapon for a Small
creature. If a weapon’s designation would be changed to something
other than light, one-handed, or two-handed by this alteration, the
creature can’t wield the weapon at all.

You will suffer a -2 penalty on the to-hit roll if you go this route.

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Re: Is there a way to change a kukri from light to one-handed?
« Reply #4 on: May 27, 2013, 12:46:43 AM »
Hmm how would a bloodclaw master's Superior Two-Weapon Fighting ability and oversized kukris work together?

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Superior Two-Weapon Fighting (Ex):  Starting at 2nd level, when you attack with two daggers or Tiger Claw weapons, you do not take the –2 penalty on attack rolls for fighting with two weapons.

It was intended to remove the -2 penalty for wielding two light weapons (daggers, kukri, natural weapons..) but two oversized kukris would have different penalties to begin with. Would it decrease the TWF penalty by 2, not do anything or remove the entire penalty?
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Re: Is there a way to change a kukri from light to one-handed?
« Reply #5 on: May 27, 2013, 09:28:31 AM »
If you're going to go by RAW to say an oversized light weapon is a one-handed weapon and thus can be used for power attack, then you should go by RAW and say the Superior TWF removes the -2 penalty, but since that doesn't exist for you, it does nothing to help with the -4 penalty.  Then once you add the -2 penalty for oversized, you wind up with a -6 penalty total.

If you want to go by RAI for both, then I'd say it would take 2 off the penalty, but I'd also say that oversized light weapons still don't qualify for PA, since they're not made that way.  Why should a smaller creature wielding the exact same weapon get PA when the correct size creature does not?  (But then again, I'd probably allow PA for light weapons anyway since I play with a group that doesn't optimize in the least)

Of course, few DMs go strictly by RAW or RAI.  I'd ask the DM and see what he/she wants to do.

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Re: Is there a way to change a kukri from light to one-handed?
« Reply #6 on: May 27, 2013, 10:08:58 AM »
If you're going to go by RAW to say an oversized light weapon is a one-handed weapon and thus can be used for power attack, then you should go by RAW and say the Superior TWF removes the -2 penalty, but since that doesn't exist for you, it does nothing to help with the -4 penalty.  Then once you add the -2 penalty for oversized, you wind up with a -6 penalty total.

If you want to go by RAI for both, then I'd say it would take 2 off the penalty, but I'd also say that oversized light weapons still don't qualify for PA, since they're not made that way.  Why should a smaller creature wielding the exact same weapon get PA when the correct size creature does not?  (But then again, I'd probably allow PA for light weapons anyway since I play with a group that doesn't optimize in the least)

Of course, few DMs go strictly by RAW or RAI.  I'd ask the DM and see what he/she wants to do.

Good luck!


I hate to say it but that sounds right. Of course going the RAW route, I could take Oversized TWF and lessen the penalty to that of light weapons, which would again qualify me for Superior TWF. That would leave me able to PA and only with a -2 penalty for wielding the wrong size of weapon.
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Re: Is there a way to change a kukri from light to one-handed?
« Reply #7 on: May 27, 2013, 12:29:14 PM »
Any specific reason for a kukri instead of, say, a scimitar?

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Re: Is there a way to change a kukri from light to one-handed?
« Reply #8 on: May 27, 2013, 12:32:46 PM »
Any specific reason for a kukri instead of, say, a scimitar?

So I can benefit from the Bloodclaw masters Claws of the Beast. All of BCMs abilities only work with Tiger Claw weapons and daggers. I wish there was a different way to get full str to off hand attacks.
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Re: Is there a way to change a kukri from light to one-handed?
« Reply #9 on: May 27, 2013, 01:06:19 PM »
Any specific reason for a kukri instead of, say, a scimitar?
Because a Scorpion's Kama deals your enormous Unarmed Damage?