Silly Unlimited Gold idea.

[cfjeldstrom]

A catch counts as a hit, it just doesn't deal damage.

[zook1shoe]

Yeah

that shows that non-damaging effects would still affect the target, due to the wording of at least Deflect Arrows. (hit but no damage)

[Kethrian]

Yeah.  Plus, with the wording under Arrows in the equipment section, any arrow that hits is automatically destroyed.

[Roxoff]

You've caught it, so it didn't hit. No destruction chance. You've caught it, so it's not missed, either. No destruction chance. Not destroyed.

My interpretation of this is the simplest, I think (whether it's right or not we can debate some more).  The arrow is destroyed no matter what.  The split quality says all the ammunition is destroyed whether it hits or misses - i.e. in all cases - whether you consider the catch a hit or a miss, it's still destroyed according to the split quality description.

The badly named 'snatch arrows' feat is clear - it only lets you catch and re-use thrown weapons.  You can catch arrows, but you cannot re-use them.  And they're then destroyed according to the split quality description.

For arrows you can meet both the split quality's spec and the snatch arrows feat by allowing the arrows to be caught but they're then destroyed.

[Kasz]

I guess it's a shame they updated the text from 3.0

You must have at least one hand free (holding nothing) to use this feat. When using the Deflect Arrows feat, you may catch the weapon instead of just deflecting it. Thrown weapons such as spears or axes can be thrown back at the original attacker as an immediate free action or kept. Projectile weapons such as arrows or bolts can be fired back normally on your next turn or later, if you possess the proper kind of bow or crossbow.

[Gazzien]

Isn't there a weapon that uses spears as ammunition? And spears can be used as thrown weapons... So enchant the spear-firing-weapon (I can't remember the name, and I'm on my phone, so no Weapon Handbook) with Splitting, and have the catcher catch the spears (as thrown weapons).

Would that work?

[Captnq]

Sigh.

You all missed it. Let me point it out for you.

+1 splitting arrow splits into two +1 arrows

The +1 SPLITTING arrow becomes two +1 Arrows.

It does not say the +1 Splitting arrow becomes two +1 Splitting arrows. When it splits, it loses it's splitting properties. You can have a monk catch them, and the monk then then shoot them or sell them or give them back to you. However, when you shoot one of those two arrows, they do not split any more.

As for making them out of platinum...

I'm afraid that magic of Faerun (3.0)is quite clear in that only weapons can be made out of platinum. Ammo is not listed. If you do wish to allow platinum arrows, then you would use the value of +2,500 gp for a weapon that does 1d6, then divide it by 50. That means your arrow is worth 50 gp. In exchange you give up a +3 bonus which means your arrow, which was worth 5,808 gp, just turned into two 97 gp arrows, for a net loss of 5,614 gp.

Just call me...

THE WET BLANKET!!!

[Kethrian]

Actually, you missed it ...

Any missile fired from a splitting weapon

The arrow does not need to be enchanted, the bow can be.  And it doesn't lose the enchantment after shooting.

[zook1shoe]

Sudden Empowered Sudden Maximized Chained Arrowsplit Serpent arrows fired from a Splitting bow gets 14 serpents per attack

[Gazzien]

Sudden Empowered Sudden Maximized Chained Arrowsplit Serpent arrows fired from a Splitting bow gets 14 serpents per attack

I was under the impression you couldn't use two Sudden feats at once. Am I mistaken?

[Captnq]

Ah, I forgot I made the point in my handbook to make splitting ammo only, but by RAW you can technically put it in a bow.

And nope. As many sudden as much as you want. You can't have sudden empower and a rod of empower, but sudden widen and sudden maximize are just fine together.

[zook1shoe]

Crazy thing? You can add em to a magic item's spell since they are metamagic feats

[Kasz]

Sigh.

You all missed it. Let me point it out for you.

+1 splitting arrow splits into two +1 arrows

The +1 SPLITTING arrow becomes two +1 Arrows.

It does not say the +1 Splitting arrow becomes two +1 Splitting arrows. When it splits, it loses it's splitting properties. You can have a monk catch them, and the monk then then shoot them or sell them or give them back to you. However, when you shoot one of those two arrows, they do not split any more.

As for making them out of platinum...

I'm afraid that magic of Faerun (3.0)is quite clear in that only weapons can be made out of platinum. Ammo is not listed. If you do wish to allow platinum arrows, then you would use the value of +2,500 gp for a weapon that does 1d6, then divide it by 50. That means your arrow is worth 50 gp. In exchange you give up a +3 bonus which means your arrow, which was worth 5,808 gp, just turned into two 97 gp arrows, for a net loss of 5,614 gp.

Just call me...

THE WET BLANKET!!!

You put a +1 arrow in a splitting bow, it becomes two +1 arrows.

You put one of those +1 arrows in a splitting bow, it becomes two +1 arrows. Where was your problem?

Okay, no platinum? just duplicate magical arrows... then sell them... infinite +1 arrows sell for infinite gold, the only factor is supply and demand, which adventurers tend to ignore by moving around.

[zook1shoe]

Did u see his last post? He admitted he forgot it was able to be put on the shooter, not just ammo.

[Kethrian]

Hmm ... If the splitting arrows were fired into an AMF, the extra arrows created would vanish, correct?  So therefore, even if there was a way to retrieve the ammo after splitting, some of it is purely magic in nature, and would vanish the moment it gets dispelled.  There's a reason no one gets rich casting tons of Wall of Iron to forge weapons and armour ...

[Raineh Daze]

Hmm ... If the splitting arrows were fired into an AMF, the extra arrows created would vanish, correct?  So therefore, even if there was a way to retrieve the ammo after splitting, some of it is purely magic in nature, and would vanish the moment it gets dispelled.  There's a reason no one gets rich casting tons of Wall of Iron to forge weapons and armour ...

The rules about instantaneous conjurations and dispelling disagree with you.

[Kethrian]

Ah, then the created arrows only last for an instant?  Problem solved!

[Kasz]

Ah, then the created arrows only last for an instant?  Problem solved!

I hope you're being sarcastic, because you just reminded me of an annoying player I used to game with who'd twist words in rules to suit his character, rather than just read the rules.

Creation
A creation spell manipulates matter to create an object or creature in the place the spellcaster designates (subject to the limits noted above). If the spell has a duration other than instantaneous, magic holds the creation together, and when the spell ends, the conjured creature or object vanishes without a trace. If the spell has an instantaneous duration, the created object or creature is merely assembled through magic. It lasts indefinitely and does not depend on magic for its existence.

[Kethrian]

Yes, I was being sarcastic, since the spell flat-out says the arrows are destroyed after use.  I guess the designer wanted the copies to still be usable against targets in an AMF, and this was the roundabout method of ensuring it would, while still guaranteeing ammo destruction.