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Weapon Clairification
« on: July 23, 2013, 02:22:11 PM »
Something just jumped out at me. I don't think you can set a lance against a charge. Is that correct? Doesn't it seem odd the very thing you use to charge someone cannot be set to receive a charge?

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Re: Set Against A Charge
« Reply #1 on: July 23, 2013, 02:36:22 PM »
Just so you know, i'm doing my final edit of the Base Weapons for the handbook and that's why weird crap is jumping out at me.

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Okay, so wait a minute here... I just realized it doesn't actually say that the flight lance is a reach weapon. But it's 10 feet long and a lance, so, shouldn't it be reach? But then I noticed you can fight with it like a short spear. Now, this is 3.0 and in 3.5 the shortspear became the spear, halfspear became the shortspear, and halfspear disappeared entirely (Now only existing as a 3.0 weapon)

A spear is only 5 feet long, longspear is 10 feet. So, is a flight lance a reach weapon that does damage like a spear, has reach only while you are mounted, turns into a normal weapon on the ground that you can use to set against a charge, and has a range of 30 feet, which is 20 feet better then a spear?
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Re: Weapon Clairification
« Reply #2 on: July 23, 2013, 03:10:47 PM »
I cannot find Throwing Knife. not desert throwing knife, just a throwing knife. I could have sword there was a ranged only version of the dagger somewhere that had a range of 20 instead of 10, but I can't find it.

The Desert Throwing Knife is Exotic. I wanted the Martial Version of it.

Anyone?
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Re: Weapon Clairification
« Reply #3 on: July 23, 2013, 04:22:08 PM »
Like three years ago I asked the same thing. No one had an answer. Perhaps Throwing knife is a Dagger ... that you throw.

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Re: Weapon Clairification
« Reply #4 on: July 23, 2013, 04:30:35 PM »
1. According to the PHB, a lance deals double damage if used while mounted - every time, even if not charging. When charging on a mount the wielder doubles (i.e. triples) that damage. So, in regards to your question: true, you can't set a lance against a charging opponent, but OTOH, if you're mounted, you can always strike the opponent for double damage.

2. Maybe it has something to do with the way you have to hold it... You have to be flying after all, but you're reading it right, IMO. According to RAW, it's not a reach weapon.

3. In 3.0E-3.5E the dagger became the throwing dagger when they added a range increment. IIRC throwing daggers were ruled in AD&D.
There are many discussions online about mixing up the stats for darts and daggers, and applying them to throwing knives, but that's homebrew.
EDIT: maybe this is what you saw...

BTW, daggers are simple weapons.

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Re: Weapon Clairification
« Reply #5 on: July 30, 2013, 02:29:01 AM »
1. According to the PHB, a lance deals double damage if used while mounted - every time, even if not charging. When charging on a mount the wielder doubles (i.e. triples) that damage.

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A lance deals double damage when used from the back of a charging mount
1-handed when mounted though.