Author Topic: 3.5 expert advice and commentary needed please! Level Progression Issues  (Read 2064 times)

Offline zethvorador

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Hey everyone!

Ok so first I will refer you to my original post

http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=313633

I took a long look at a lot of things and have 6 rather complex solutions.
Setup 1

Rogue 5/ Fighters 2/Assassin 8/Class*/Mindbender 4

Setup 2

Rogue 5/ Fighters 2/Assassin 8(10**)/Psion 3(5**)/Cerebremancer 2

Setup 3


Rogue 5/ Fighter 2/Assassin 8/Lurk 5

Setup 4

Rogue 5/Fighter 2/Assassin 8/ Trapsmith 2/ ***3

Setup 5


Rogue 5/Fighter2/Assassin 8/Jaunter4/***1

Setup 6

Rogue 5/Fighter 2/Assassin 8/Spell Thief 5

*-Any single level class that grants Charm Person
(Bard, Urban Druid, Wizard, Sorcerer, beguiler)
**-Cerebremancer increases spellcasting/manifester level
***-Unknown Class

My current issues are:

1.In order which would be the "best" to "worst"?
2.Any that should be cut altogether?
3. Advice on filler for the Setups with a *** in them
4. Any way in 5 levels to incorporate effective Shadow Magic?

As always all comments are appreciated. Thanks for all the help in advance.

Quick note-TOB is not in this campaign (No swordsage, crusader etc). Almost every book is allowed but TOB. Also the character is working with the Drow society (Females as rulers) and is a devout servant of Lolth.

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Re: 3.5 expert advice and commentary needed please! Level Progression Issues
« Reply #1 on: November 11, 2013, 09:45:38 AM »
If no one else has it already, Mindsight is one of the most powerful detection abilities in the game. So I'd say get Mindbender 1 ASAP. The rest of the levels of that PrC don't really matter much.

I'd try finding a way to add Charm Person to your assassin spell list. I bet there is a way, which would save you from having to dip into a casting class for one level. If you have to dip, I'd go with something like Cloistered Cleric (with a domain granting Charm Person), although Lolth may not have a domain granting that, unfortunately...
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Re: 3.5 expert advice and commentary needed please! Level Progression Issues
« Reply #2 on: November 11, 2013, 05:10:31 PM »
Q ... Are you completely and totally locked into the Rogue 5 / Fighter 2 / Assassin 8 ??


Lurk is a decent enough class from level 1, if that's what you want to do.
There is a well done guide, in the handbooks section.
But sticking Lurk 5 at the end of that build doesn't do or add anything.
It'd be better to ditch that one.  Way better.

Jaunter is OK-ish ... but ... if you already have a party Wizard
or backstory NPC helper(s), the spells that Jaunter duplicates
have been around for a while.  With bigger bombs to go too.
Your codpiece is a mimic.

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Re: 3.5 expert advice and commentary needed please! Level Progression Issues
« Reply #3 on: November 11, 2013, 07:27:46 PM »
Your link fails, but I fixed it.
And to make sure that doesn't fail too.
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Hey everyone! So I am in a little bit of a rut at the moment. Below is my current character, things are going great with him and I am really liking where he is right now. However his future is a little unknown to me at this point.

My current plan is this

He is currently Rogue 5/ Fighter 1/ Assassin 3 (Level 9)
Level 10-Fighter 2?
Level 11-> Level 17-Assassin
This would finish him at Rogue 5/ Fighter 2/ Assassin 10 (Level 17)

Now here is where my question comes in, what would be a good dips for 3 levels? I can put the dips wherever.
I've done some research and my dip list currently consists of:
Nightmare Spinner
Mindbender
Cloistered Cleric
Spellthief

But I really don't know. I'd like unique skills with a spell casting progression or something that adds another degree of danger (Shadow casting, psionics etc) but yeah dip advice is most welcome

Below is my character. Any help and advice would be greatly appreciated! Feel free to give thoughts and comments on the character himself as well!


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Potential Feats
Sickening Strike
Aleval School
Dark Stalker
Telling Blow
Practiced Spellcaster
Staggering Strike
Skill Focus
Disemboweling Strike