[PF/d20] Human Form -only- Item

[kevin video]

If you're familiar with The Little Mermaid, or more importantly the version from "Once Upon a Time", then you know that there was a bracelet that turned Ariel into a human.

In 3.5 there was a hat of disguise that was worth 1800 gold. In Pathfinder, that same item is available, however, they made two other versions: the hat of human guise (800 gold) and a greater hat of disguise (12k gold). These allowed you to look like a small young human or adult halfling, and any race including gaining any racial abilities that the previous didn't have (such as darkvision), respectfully.

If there's not already an item that allows you to become human, I'd like to make one. 12k is too expensive for what I'm looking for.

Any ideas?

[SolEiji]

Just for clarity, that's "actually be human" and not "look like a human" right?

[kevin video]

Just for clarity, that's "actually be human" and not "look like a human" right?

That's correct.

[kitep]

There's the Robe of Blending, though it's only 1/day for 1 hour.

You could also put Alter Self in a wand.

I'd check with the DM since you're only concerned with "human only", and he may/should allow a discount for limiting it this way.

Good luck!

[kevin video]

There's the Robe of Blending, though it's only 1/day for 1 hour.

You could also put Alter Self in a wand.

I'd check with the DM since you're only concerned with "human only", and he may/should allow a discount for limiting it this way.

Good luck!

I'm the GM as I'm making it for a one-shot. There is going to be a discount, as the cap of human guise is because it's "human only" technically and 1000 gold less, but I don't know by how much it would be.

[SolEiji]

Its been bugging me all night, I knew I remembered seeing this before.

Oh yeah, I made it back in 2010, huh.

[kevin video]

Its been bugging me all night, I knew I remembered seeing this before.

Oh yeah, I made it back in 2010, huh.

Very cool. Thanks for the link. How did you come up with the price?

[kitep]

I remember there's an amulet somewhere that lets you polymorph into something and stay in that shape for as long as you want, but I think the amulet only works 1/week.  Alas, I can't remember the name or which book, though I remember it was in a module first (Return to the temple of elemental evil, I think).

Edit: It's called "Phylactery of Change" in A&EG, it's 1/day, but at 11,200gp it's not better than the 12,000gp item you already listed.

[SolEiji]

Its been bugging me all night, I knew I remembered seeing this before.

Oh yeah, I made it back in 2010, huh.

Very cool. Thanks for the link. How did you come up with the price?

While my notes on this particular item are long gone, my modus operandi usually is that after whatever guidelines and discounts and the like I do the final step is always "but what level do I want this item to appear at", look at WBL, and price or adjust price) accordingly.  Though, were I to reverse engineer this I'd probably justify it like this.

Alter Self is 2nd level.  What spell level would I place a limited single-shape alter self spell (IMHO, 1st).  This puts it in line with Disguise Self.
It is both more and less useful than Disguise Self in that you're limited to a single race (while a human could disguise as an elf), but more useful in that its a real transformation.
Just to be sure (and since I know the abuses with Alter Self, esp. concerning Outsider type) I limited the list to a short list of non-abusable humanoids, leaving out things like the natural armor powerhouse of trogdolytes or the possibilities of outsider shenanigans.
With all that in mind I found it comparable to Disguise Self and thus the Hat of Disguise, pricing it the same.  I'm also comfortable with it being available the same time the hat is.