Author Topic: Getting the most out of [Spelldancer]  (Read 6946 times)

Offline Nephtyz

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Getting the most out of [Spelldancer]
« on: November 21, 2011, 06:25:04 AM »
I'd like to do a decent Spelldancer, with the primary goal to get the PrC as fast as possible. We start the party at level 4 actually. It seems that Wizzy is the fastest way, to get 3rd level spells (on lvl 5), but I cannot skill perform. So, I'm thinking about a bard... any ideas for a better base class?

Reqs: Combat casting, Dodge, Mobility, Endurance, able to cast 3rd level spells, perform 6, concentration 4, tumble 4

Further I'd want to improve Spelldancer as much as possible to get the best out of it. The tireless feat seems to be a good idea, but is limited to fighters.
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Further, I'm thinking about mixing some PrC on lvl 4, if possible.

Any ideas for the super dancer? Furthermore, any way to use the time while dancing? Or make it less "zzzz... i'm dancing"?

€: Actually i manage to get the needed feats until level 3 or 4 if i take two levels fighter and emulate the 3rd level spells with 1 level wujen (for heighten spell) and human + eldritch corruption or if i take cleric/illumian. Still, i cannot take Spelldancer before level 6 due to the problem, none of these classes provides perform as class skill.
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Re: Getting the most out of [Spelldancer]
« Reply #1 on: November 21, 2011, 10:10:34 AM »
It seems a bit extreme to be giving up caster levels just to get into a casting PrC a level or two early. 

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Re: Getting the most out of [Spelldancer]
« Reply #2 on: November 21, 2011, 10:23:18 AM »
Actually, I love pairing Prestige Bard with Spelldancer. Persisting Bard spells is worth the loss of a caster level for me. But that doesn't relate to the question.

Make your Illumian Necropolitan and he'll get immunity to fatigue without having to buy the fighter feat. You'll lose some experience and wealth, but such things return.

You know what provides Perform as a class skill and grants bonus fighter feats? Rogue. ( http://www.d20srd.org/srd/variant/classes/variantCharacterClasses.htm#rogue )

Not that I'm recommending losing the caster levels. But there are times I've accepted such losses.

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Re: Getting the most out of [Spelldancer]
« Reply #3 on: November 21, 2011, 11:22:23 AM »
So i could go Rogue variant 1 (for the feat and perform), any Caster 4 (where i get 2x perform in 4 lvls), Spelldancer X. That sounds quite ok for me.

What do you want to say with "persisting bard spells"? Spelldancer is all about adding metamagic components or am I missing a clue? And are there any feats or such to improve the spelldance ability except being undead?

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Re: Getting the most out of [Spelldancer]
« Reply #4 on: November 21, 2011, 12:09:13 PM »
Persistent Spell is a metamagic feat from Complete Arcane, that you can use on certain spells to make them last 24 hours. A way to use the dancing without cutting into combat time. +6 spell slot adjustment, so it's a fine candidate for something where you take the penalty once per spell. Requires Extend Spell though.

If you don't grab immunity to fatigue from some other source, just getting a Lesser Restoration from a friendly cleric can work wonders to mitigate too much time spent dancing. Will 3 times out of 4 eliminate the 2 constitution damage, and always eliminates the fatigue.

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Re: Getting the most out of [Spelldancer]
« Reply #5 on: November 21, 2011, 12:24:00 PM »
Factotum is possibly better than Rogue due to adding Int to relevant things.

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Re: Getting the most out of [Spelldancer]
« Reply #6 on: November 23, 2011, 03:46:36 AM »
Warforged also get fatigue/exhaustion immunity.