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Non-Caster Familiar?
« on: December 07, 2014, 09:36:27 PM »
Anyway for a non-caster to get a familiar?

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Re: Non-Caster Familiar?
« Reply #1 on: December 07, 2014, 10:05:29 PM »
Leadership :v

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Re: Non-Caster Familiar?
« Reply #2 on: December 07, 2014, 10:15:21 PM »
1) Get an Arcane Caster level of 3, via feat or race.
2) ???
3) Get the Obtain Familiar feat.

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Re: Non-Caster Familiar?
« Reply #3 on: December 07, 2014, 10:45:56 PM »
I'm almost certain that between the psionic feats Wild Talent, (maybe) Expanded Knowledge and some feat or sidebar I can't track down, you count as a level 1 manifester. Which gives you access to Psicrystal Affinity for a feat. Which is essentially an upgradeable familiar.

Probably not the best use of feats, but doable. I'll try and track down the book/feat/sidebar that says "This makes you a lvl 1 manifester, sort of."
« Last Edit: December 07, 2014, 10:49:13 PM by sambojin »

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Re: Non-Caster Familiar?
« Reply #4 on: December 08, 2014, 11:13:50 AM »
Magical Training may give you a caster level. Practiced spellcaster may or may not be needed.

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Re: Non-Caster Familiar?
« Reply #5 on: December 08, 2014, 03:53:49 PM »
Must it be a Familiar?  Wild Cohort gets you something akin to an Animal Companion, and it's only 1 feat.  Or you could jut buy a pet with gold. 
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Re: Non-Caster Familiar?
« Reply #6 on: December 09, 2014, 05:49:41 PM »
Familiar: Requires a CL of 3, take Obtain Familiar.
Animal Companion: Spell-Less Ranger (CW) grants it.
Psicrystal: Requires an ML of 1, take Psicrystal Affinity.
Leadership: Requires ECL6, pick up 1/e you want.
Wild Cohort (online): Can be taken at the 1st level, pick an animal.
Shape Soulmeld (soulspark): Can be taken at the 1st level, gives you a pew-pew ball of light.
Purchase an Animal: A&E really expands on this area, it's a pet, it doesn't grow, but who cares right?
Buy a slave: I think LoM is the source on this, buy humans. Keep them chained up or they run away.
Dominate: Always a good route.
Animate: Sometimes even better!
Fission -> Metamorphosis: Be your pet.
Mind Rape: 2nd best option.
Ice Assassin -> Shapechange: Is there anything this won't solve?

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Re: Non-Caster Familiar?
« Reply #7 on: December 09, 2014, 06:55:54 PM »
Wow. This is for a friend I'll run some options by him (and credit y’all of course). Thanks folks!

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Re: Non-Caster Familiar?
« Reply #8 on: December 11, 2014, 06:20:25 PM »
I'm almost certain that between the psionic feats Wild Talent, (maybe) Expanded Knowledge and some feat or sidebar I can't track down, you count as a level 1 manifester. Which gives you access to Psicrystal Affinity for a feat. Which is essentially an upgradeable familiar.

Probably not the best use of feats, but doable. I'll try and track down the book/feat/sidebar that says "This makes you a lvl 1 manifester, sort of."

Wild Talent (not Hidden Talent) and a CPsi [Host] feat to get a real ML.
Some of the psi races, can do this right away.
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Re: Non-Caster Familiar?
« Reply #9 on: December 15, 2014, 05:44:55 PM »
I guess Silverbrow Human -> Obtain Familiar is the safest, quickest and least bookthrow-worthy way.
My Homebrew (posted elsewhere)

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Re: Non-Caster Familiar?
« Reply #10 on: December 15, 2014, 06:31:02 PM »
I guess Silverbrow Human -> Obtain Familiar is the safest, quickest and least bookthrow-worthy way.
Well I wouldn't say least bookthrow-worthy...
Quote from: CA
For feats or prestige classes requiring a minimum caster level, creatures that use spell-like abilities or invocations instead of spells use either their fixed caster level or their class level to determine qualification.
Since a SB human's Feather Fall scales by HD.

The least bookthrow worthy would be to use a Race with a fixed CL above 3 since it'd be perfectly legal. The wink wink nudge least bookthrow worthy would be Lesser Drow, since their CLs are based off their Class Level which kind of acts like a bridge there. Check with your DM to be sure that's allowed through.