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First Instance of the 'Wizard School" Concept
« on: October 12, 2015, 09:19:58 AM »
When was the first concept of the "wizard school" brought up in the arts (literature)?

Was it A Wizard of Earthsea (1968)? Or was there something before that? Did J. R. R. Tolkien have such a concept in his writings?

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Re: First Instance of the 'Wizard School" Concept
« Reply #1 on: October 12, 2015, 03:57:34 PM »
It's entirely possible that there were Wizard Schools in non-Western, non-English translated works before Earthsea, although I do not know of them.

In Lord of the Rings, Wizards were heavenly beings sent down to Earth, and there were only a few of them.

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Re: First Instance of the 'Wizard School" Concept
« Reply #2 on: October 12, 2015, 06:27:59 PM »
Astrology and Oracles (let's call it divination school)
date far enough back to perhaps pre-history.
They didn't take everybody in for training.

The Knight's Templars weren't specifically
anything at first.  It's long suggested they
learned some parts of islamic finance, and
formed the West's first bankers guild thingy.
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Re: First Instance of the 'Wizard School" Concept
« Reply #3 on: October 12, 2015, 07:25:14 PM »

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Re: First Instance of the 'Wizard School" Concept
« Reply #4 on: October 12, 2015, 10:39:00 PM »
TVTropes pointed me to this short story as the original Wizard School.
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Re: First Instance of the 'Wizard School" Concept
« Reply #5 on: October 14, 2015, 06:50:25 AM »
Does Journey to the West count?
Sun Wukong learned his 72 transformations at a school(then got expelled for monkeying around)
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Re: First Instance of the 'Wizard School" Concept
« Reply #6 on: October 14, 2015, 04:41:37 PM »
Masons date back to a 1390 poem.
And if the Anti-Masons are to be believed,
they've got conspiracy tendrils all over ... shhhhh.
Dude wrote a book from the inside post civil war.
Explains all sorts of stuff, but leaves out the Rituals (!!) .

Perhaps could call this Transmutation, and
consider Newton was into Alchemy too.
Building castles was "magic" back in the day.


India has Vastu Shastra, in the same vein.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vastu_shastra
Though maybe for d&d it should be considered
more like temple building, than a wizard school.
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Re: First Instance of the 'Wizard School" Concept
« Reply #7 on: October 15, 2015, 07:22:46 AM »
Ancient Celtic bards were trained in schools, even being graded in copper/silver/gold depending on how good they were. And they were assumed to have magic powers.

« Last Edit: October 15, 2015, 07:26:08 AM by oslecamo »

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Re: First Instance of the 'Wizard School" Concept
« Reply #8 on: October 15, 2015, 02:08:09 PM »
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/WizardingSchool

Check the entries under the "Literature" tab.

You might also want to check:
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MagicalSociety

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Re: First Instance of the 'Wizard School" Concept
« Reply #9 on: October 15, 2015, 09:29:11 PM »
I realize I should've checked TV Tropes, but...TV Tropes.

Yeah, I was wondering if I should have put a warning up with the links.  :P