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Kishi Charger
« on: December 16, 2011, 05:36:24 PM »
Anyone got a workable build using at least 6 levels of Kishi Charger (OA)? I want to make use of the quadruple charge damage and the basically mounted pounce ability... I know mounted chargers usually suck because the mount dies but I have a PbP with a jousting tournament coming up.

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Re: Kishi Charger
« Reply #1 on: December 16, 2011, 06:17:00 PM »
What ECL is it?  What other sources are allowed?

If you are a centaur / tauric type creature, will your DM let that count for the purposes of the combat and the various mounted feats and abilities?

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Re: Kishi Charger
« Reply #2 on: December 16, 2011, 06:28:32 PM »
All sources, no homebrew. Level 10-15. I really only need synergistic abilities, I am capable of building a character myself but cant find much information on mounted charging anywhere.

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Re: Kishi Charger
« Reply #3 on: December 16, 2011, 06:57:41 PM »
Anyone got a workable build using at least 6 levels of Kishi Charger (OA)? I want to make use of the quadruple charge damage and the basically mounted pounce ability... I know mounted chargers usually suck because the mount dies but I have a PbP with a jousting tournament coming up.

2 good solutions to the "Mount dies" issue are either getting Leadership(Blink Dog is pretty good for small characters), and getting summonable mounts. Phantom Steed is a good one, even though it dies in 1 hit, you can get around that by grabbing wands of it/that phantom knight PrC thing [good gish]. Leadership i think is best, because you also double your action pool, and if you play it right, expand a lot of your possibilities...
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Re: Kishi Charger
« Reply #4 on: December 17, 2011, 05:58:11 PM »
All sources, no homebrew. Level 10-15. I really only need synergistic abilities, I am capable of building a character myself but cant find much information on mounted charging anywhere.
Post #2 under Charging.

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Re: Kishi Charger
« Reply #5 on: December 17, 2011, 06:01:13 PM »
All sources, no homebrew. Level 10-15. I really only need synergistic abilities, I am capable of building a character myself but cant find much information on mounted charging anywhere.
Post #2 under Charging.

That is awesome thanks, didn't turn up in my search because Kishi Charger isn't in the table but It looks like you aren't including classes anyway.

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Re: Kishi Charger
« Reply #6 on: December 17, 2011, 08:50:02 PM »
All sources, no homebrew. Level 10-15. I really only need synergistic abilities, I am capable of building a character myself but cant find much information on mounted charging anywhere.
Post #2 under Charging.

That is awesome thanks, didn't turn up in my search because Kishi Charger isn't in the table but It looks like you aren't including classes anyway.
Nope, it's base classes (post 1) and themes (post 2).

You really want to go for broke. I think Kishi Charge adds a multiplier (x2 normal, x3 with a lance), Spirited Charge makes that x4, Riding Boots for x5, Valorous for x6. With Great Cleave you get extra one attack per kill and Lance of the Unending Charge greatly extends the range of your bonus movement (from 5ft to your mount's speed). And an intelligent mount with the Twisted Charge Skill Trick would even let you turn 90 degrees while charging too.

I can't say I know of other abilities that let you change directions while charging, but with enough of them you could dart around a city murdering EVERYONE on the streets on the same initial attack action. Fun times.

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Re: Kishi Charger
« Reply #7 on: December 18, 2011, 07:45:50 AM »
Kishi Charger gets 3x or 4x with a lance. You can also double the charge range of your mount so you might hit a couple more targets with the whole unending charge thing.

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Re: Kishi Charger
« Reply #8 on: December 22, 2011, 06:57:59 PM »
Hood can work mounted or unmounted.

Without Kishi Charger, I can get a x7 damage multiplier unmounted.  (See Attack Math for Any Build.)  Nothing official can withstand anywhere near that amount of damage.  Line up the deities!

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Re: Kishi Charger
« Reply #9 on: December 22, 2011, 09:02:20 PM »
You're a few weeks late there Endarire, busy much?

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Re: Kishi Charger
« Reply #10 on: December 22, 2011, 09:44:54 PM »
Yep.